Lightroom Classic 7.3/Camera Raw: Constrain Crop not saving in preset

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I posted this on the adobe.com forums, but it may get more traction here....

Since updating to LR 7.3, all my presets were imported and can be used. But none of them allow the Constrain Crop option under Transform to be set by default.

Even if I apply my preset, click Constrain Crop and "Update with current settings" on the preset, it still doesn't re-apply.

Running Windows 10 64bit.
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The underlying cause is that the new preset implementation, shared with Adobe Camera Raw, ignores the Constrain Crop setting in presets. This is most likely because ACR doesn't expose that setting in its user interface for some reason, and even though ACR will correctly display a LR-edited photo with the setting, ACR won't save the setting in a .xmp file.

Steps to reproduce:

1. Open a raw image in Develop.

2. In the Transform panel, click Auto and Constrain Crop.

3. In the Presets panel, create a preset, click Check None, then check Transform. Save the preset.

4. In the Presets panel, right-click the preset and do Show In Finder. 

5. Edit the preset's .xmp file and observe that the following line is incorrectly missing:

   crs:CropConstrainToWarp="1"
6. In the text editor, add that line above the other settings lines. 

7. Restart LR.

8. Apply the preset to another raw photo. Observe in the Transform panel that Constrain Crop is incorrectly unchecked. 

9. In the Transform panel, again check Constrain Crop.

10. Do Photo > Edit In > Open As Smart Object In Photoshop. Observe that the Constrain Crop setting has been observed in ACR's rendering.

11. In the ACR window, do Save Settings to save the photo's settings in a .xmp file.

12. Open the saved .xmp file in a text editor and observe that it is incorrectly missing the CropConstrainToWarp setting.
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Thanks. I've asked engineering to take a look at this?
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Great, thanks.
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hello, 
I still have this issue on several computers, on imacs and windows computers. 
Was a fix found ? Thx 
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As far as I know there is no work around for this. Also there has been no release of an update to fix this. What I am doing for now is as soon as I import my images I click on the first image in the group, click on the constrain crop check box , then go back to the grid, select all and sync all settings. This syncs that constrain crop. Then I go about my editing.
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I’ll be releasing a work-around script in the next few days — stay tuned.
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John R. Ellis, Champion

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Unfortunately, a bug in LR prevents the work-around script from working. However, I'll post a workaround recipe below.
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Still no fix? This is ridiculous 
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I know there was an update a few days ago and I thought so it's definitely going to be there, there's just no way they could let this go again... They just don't care. It's got to be such a simple fix. At this point I've marked it as an internal joke at Adobe. They're probably trying to see how long they can let it go. Either way I have a fix in my workflow that takes about three seconds and I've decided to quit carrying, it's not worth it.
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A crazy thought here Jeffrey... instead of having them take a look at it, why don't we get them to actually fix it? Whoa, right?!? I know... it took me a few months to really kind of come to this thought myself. Anyway, there you go. I expect that should clear up the issue they were having by just looking at the problem. I look forward to the fix in the next update.
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When is this going to be fixed... I edit thousands of house photos and have to go and check the box on every one...
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To add Constrain Crop to all the selected images:

1. Select the desired images.

2. Go to Develop.

3.  Do Settings > Enable Auto Sync to turn on auto sync.

4. In the Transform panel, check Constrain Crop.

5. Very Important: Do Settings > Enable Auto Sync again to turn off auto sync. Forgetting to turn of auto sync can lead to disastrous accidental changes to all the selected photos.
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Another workaround: Use the Set Constrain Crop On command of the free plugin Fix Presets.
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Lewis Kemper

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It hasn't been fixed for 7.4 either. I am using Constrain Crop in the Lens Correction panel and it won't save in Presets either.
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David Santora

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How they have not fixed this is beyond me. It cannot be that complicated. I have adjusted my workflow now to where it's only taking an extra 10 seconds once I import. But things like this are just ridiculous and unacceptable for a product of this caliber. Or maybe it's not as high caliber is I am assuming...
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Update: the issue is still open in our system and we have escalated with development.  Thank you for your patience.
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David Santora

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Seriously Rick it's been 5 months. How can somebody not fix this in like one cup of coffee worth of editing? Disappointing to say the least from you guys
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Scott Prokop

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I installed 8.3 and this is still broken.  This is now May 2019.  Tick, tock.
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Denise Kiesow Houk

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I am still having to check this box for every photo that I edit. I edit houses.... this is creating a lot more unnecessary work. When will this be fixed? There was just an update... I was hoping it would be corrected but no... nothing. It use to work! This is so frustrating.!
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Apparently this can only be fixed with raw materials recovered from the future Mars mission.  I have given up caring.  Likely so have Adobe!
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Please, god please fix this. It really shouldn't be a difficult fix and it's a massive pain and creates tons of unnecessary work and has been going on for years.
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Lewis Kemper

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YES, YES, PLEASE FIX THIS!!!!!

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ariel martini

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8 months to fix a simple bug. Why am I paying for this?
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David Santora

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Sadly, probably why the rest of us are. Because it's pretty damn cheap for really good software that they seem to not care about. They'd rather show a new feature that's bugged and sell to some new people.
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WTF??? Seriously a year and this can't get fixed.  For us real estate photographers this is a pain in the ass!
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Oh this is not even on the back burner it fell completely off the stove at this point. The real quick fix for is open your images do a control a to select all hit D4 develop module click the constrained checkbox click the sync button hit okay it takes all of five seconds. That's probably why they haven't fixed it or maybe they're just too busy keeping their stacks of money in order
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Still waiting on this! Pretty frustrating. Any updates?
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David Santora

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Well if this ever was on the back burner I'm sure it fell off the stove by now. Do not ever expect this to be fixed. Just used to work around where you go to grid mode select all then hit develop mode hit constrain crop then hit the sync button that will apply the check to all of your pictures the whole process takes a whopping three seconds. It's ridiculous but it works.
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This problem has existed for over a year now.  I recently installed and tested 8.3 and still nothing. Hello Adobe, fix Grandpa Lightroom's Constrain Crop in our presets already!
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While this is being considered, can you look at being able to include it in Defaults too?
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"While this is being looked at"

This has never been looked at. They have never addressed it, not once.

The only workable solution is to go to grid mode, do select all, then go to develop module, click on constrain crop, then click sync. Do this the moment you start working on a batch of photos and it will sync the constrain crop to all images. Then go back to the grid, unselect all, so you are just on the first photo and begin editing. This whole process takes about 3 seconds when you get quick at it.
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What can I say, I'm optimistic ;-)

To slim that down further, no need to go back to grid view to select all, as Ctrl A / Cmd A would work in Develop.

Or borrowing John's code from above, I created a preset that only applies constrain crop that can be selected from the Grid's Quick Develop panel, or applied on import. 
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I am editing thousands of real estate photos per day for a team of photographers. Our lenses require +3 profile correction (distortion). No problem, EXCEPT WHEN I GO TO SYNC THESE THOUSANDS OF PHOTOS PER DAY I HAVE TO MANUALLY SYNC "CONSTRAIN CROP" ACROSS THESE THOUSANDS OF IMAGES DOZENS OF TIMES PER DAY! This is soooooo stupid that this hasnt been fixed yet, COME ON ADOBE!!!!!
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Welcome to my world... The thing that is sooooooo stupid is that this use to work. They broke it and won't fix it. They also changed the ability to save a crop so now... if you took many photos on a tripod you have to crop each and every one. You can copy and paste it but you can't save it. :(
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> They also changed the ability to save a crop

Can you explain that one further Denise? Nothing should have changed there, unless you're using the newer Cloudy one (which doesn't have that feature yet) instead of Classic.
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Official Response
Lightroom Classic 8.4 was released today and contained a fix for this issue. Please update to 8.4 and verify that you are no longer seeing the issue. Thank you!
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The constrain crop now stays checked (thank you) but I still do not have the ability to save a crop as a preset. It would be really nice to not have to run a batch through Photoshop after everything is finished in Lightroom... Thanks for fixing the constrain crop. I have spent hours scrolling down just to tick that box.
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"It would be really nice to not have to run a batch through Photoshop after everything is finished in Lightroom"

You can copy/paste/sync the Crop develop settings from one photo to a batch of selected photos.  While not as convenient as having a preset, it should be faster than sending them to Photoshop.
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how without pasting them to each photo separately?
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Anything you do from Grid view applies to all selected photos. Or sync (rather than paste) to multiple photos works in Develop.
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yes but I only see a way to crop to a specific size- not a size and placement. How would you move the crop and sync it in the grid view?
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If you want a specific placement, do it on one photo then sync it to all the others. If you want to change it on each photo, then of course you'd need to work through the photos one by one.
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Thanks