Lightroom: Color shift when exporting to sRGB from LR 5

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Recently, using Lightroom 5, I tried exporting photographs [that were edited in both LR & Photoshop CC] from Lightroom 5 using sRGB. There was a marked color shift towards the green spectrum after using this method. If I exported using AdobeRGB, there was no discernible shift. The strange thing is that neither LR nor PS picked up on this color shift. The color shift was highly noticeable in both ProShow Producer and Picasa however. For some reason, the conversion to sRGB seems to be a problem with LR5. This appears to be a bug with LR5 [not sure if PSCC is affected or not].
I have a Windows 8 64-bit machine with 10 GB RAM running on an HP Envy Desktop.
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If you have a wide-gamut monitor, its gamut will be similar to Adobe RGB so when editing in LR you won't be able to see what issues sRGB might have, unless you turn on soft-proofing. Have you tried this, soft-proofing to sRGB and see what is out-of-gamut? Out-of-gamut colors will need to be shifted or truncated upon conversion to another color profile so perhaps this is what is occurring.

If there is some slight issue with your monitor profile or video drivers, that could also affect how things look in various color-managed and especially non-color-managed products.

When you say colors are shifted towards the green, do neutrals pick up a green tint, or is the green saturation just stronger than other colors, so the image looks more green, but doesn't really have a color-cast?
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The most noticeable shift was with the greens picking up a more greenish cast [as if the yellows were removed] and an increase of intensity. The blues, as in the sky as shown in the attached photo also picked up a decidedly green cast. There is also a color shift in the orange spectrum to a more salmon colored/pinkish color. The intensity of the colors also shifts in the orange spectrum especially noticeable with people that are in the photograph. I had exported to sRGB for use in Photodex's ProShow Producer. I have discovered, however, that if I export to AdobeRGB, I do not pick up the color shift nearly as much as the sRGB. I have not tried Soft Proof and will give that a shot for future changes in color space.

If I can see the AdobeRGB color space in ProShow Producer, the only time I would need to export to sRGB is for printing. I believe most TVs these days use a wider gamut than the older CRT style models. I will do more investigation into soft proofing.
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Do you have a wide-gamut monitor?

Have you profiled and calibrated your monitor with a hardware calibration device?

A concern is that what you see on your monitor is not what others will see. Have you tried viewing your images on another computer with various browsers, both the single-frame shots and the slideshow, to see if they look ok?
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Yes and I have calibrated this monitor with a Spyder 3 ver 4.02 hardware and software, routinely done every two weeks. Using the same monitor, I have noticed the color shift from LR5 to sRGB. I do not have another monitor to view but past results have shown me that what I see on my monitor is very close to what is seen on today's TV screens after I export a show to DVD. Although my monitor is close to 8 years of age, it has served me well in this capacity. It is an HP 2408 LCD type of monitor. I believe that I converted from LR5 to sRGB for the first time though instead of the usual AdobeRGB which I routinely did in the past. I should stick with what I know to work but this problem still is a puzzle. Both Adobe and Photoshop each had a recommendation but those recommendations are to deal with the problem and do not deal with the primary problem which is why the conversion process causes the tint problem.
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Hi, I wonder if you found the solution. I am also looking for a reason and a solution...
I have also a green cast problem (all the photo gets greener). In my computer photos seem fine, but if I see them in other devices, there is a strong colour cast. It seems to be more obvious when I save in CC to jpeg and less when I save to jpeg in LR5. When I convert to sRGB in Lightroom, there is no green cast. My monitor is calibrated at 2.2. I am working with ProPhoto RGB in 16 bits and exporting at the end to jpeg.
I used to work only with LR and I never noticed the problem. I installed recently CC and when checking my photos in an iPad I found the problem.
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My particular problem was, as it appears, not in LR but in the interpretation of the Adobe RGB to sRGB conversion by another product that I use called ProShow Producer by Photodex. As long as I did not convert to sRGB, it worked fine; however, if I converted, I had to make an adjustment in the ProShow Producer preferences [Preferences>Playback>Miscellaneous Playback Options and check the "Color Profiles" box which uses the default ICC color profile for previews if available [conversely, uncheck it for the Adobe RGB profile].

I had wondered why this problem might occur as I re-calibrate my monitor every two weeks with the same lighting. My monitor is approximately 8 years old but working fine and it has always produced good previews in the past [I only converted everything to sRGB on this occasion because I had some other photographs that were in the sRGB color profile].

I did not discover HOW this happens only that it did and what I could do to correct the problem. As for working with the ProPhoto color space in LR [default], I have been reading that this color space is beyond the capabilities of most monitors meaning that it has more color possibilities than any commercial device we use can perceive. It is not a problem until you save to a file format which is why I use Adobe RGB 16-bit [sometimes 8-bit depending on the final destination] when converting to .PSD or TIFF formats. Once I finish with Photoshop CC, I save as a JPEG format in the Adobe RGB color space.

I did not discover the cause of the malady. I cannot tell you whether it exists in the Adobe conversion process or in the interpretation by a device because of the conversion. I had problems with only two programs: ProShow Producer and Picasa. I know Producer is a 32-bit program and Picasa is also. I run my programs on a 64-bit machine which also includes Photoshop CC and Lightroom. I know Photoshop CC usually installs both 32-bit and 64-bit programs on a PC whereas LR only installs for whatever bit version of the OS is being used. Another possibility of error might be in whether or not the file is converted to 16-bit or 8-bit color depth. I just do not know as I do not have enough information to even make a calculated guess. I only know that I did fine a workaround in slide presentation and did not investigate further due to other projects being on the burner. It would be interesting to discover exactly what is the cause because it seems calibration is not the issue [I use a Spyder 3 colorimeter]. I hope you discover the cause.