ACR/CS6: Color problems

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Why is it that when I use cs6 camera raw processing (even on completely non-color related subjects) and then transfer the photo to any mobile device or print it that the colors and contrast change. The problem doesn't occur on any other editing software and I have eliminated the possibility of it being color correction needed on my display. What is the problem?
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Are your other image editors color managed (and thus using your display profile)?
Are you printing with the correct profile for your printer and converting to the printer profile correctly?

Most mobile devices are not color managed, and their color reproduction is all over the place.
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I can look at a screenshot captured on my computer and view it in splitscreen on my phone ( and the same is applicable to the reverse ) and they look completely different. As seen in the image attached, the one on the right is the intended image and the one on the left is the resulting image. There were no differing edits. All I did was upload the photo to my phone (Samsung Galaxy Mega) from my laptop (Asus ROG G750) via the file browser standard on windows 8 desktop view. Both of the photos were originally Nef. raw images processed using the raw processing unit on CS6 Extended edition. I do not understand why this is happening, but it it definitely infuriating. I truly hope you can figure this out.
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Yes, but you're dealing with a non-color managed phone and who knows what colorspace on the phone's display. Phone's and tablets are not likely to match color on the desktop - because they are not calibrated, and their colorspace rarely matches the desktop displays (or standards).

Viewing the image in a color managed application (like Photoshop) should still match what you saw in ACR. And printing from a color managed application using the correct printer profile should also provide a close match (though that blue may be difficult to match in print).
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This was not happening before when I was using photoshop on my previous laptop.
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But if it was a color management problem, the colorspace would match when both images are viewed on the same screen and they would apear to look the same. And this problem only arises when i run a NEF. Raw image through Photoshop Raw Processing, any other time the colors match up perfectly on both screens.
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could the problem be with any of my settings?
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My settings are..
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Here is the Exact same photo pulled up on PS CS6, Lr 5 and Windows Paint all pulled up on the same monitor. Why is it that when pulled up on different applications that it displays differently?
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Because Photoshop hand Lightroom are color managed, and using your display profile and document profile. After you export from LR or ACR, the color is converted down to your specified color profile, then color managed to the display.

Windows paint is not color managed, and you get random, maybe monitor, color from it.
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This is the exact same photo (DSC_0006edit3.jpg) viewed on Lightroom 5, Photoshop CS6 Extended and Windows Paint. Do you still think that this a color management error. Are you talking about an error that could be fixed using a color management software like Spider4Elite?
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No, because you can never fix the color in non-color managed applications.

But you should read up a bit more on color management and how it works, and how it looks when things are not working. I think you'll find that the differences you're seeing are quite understandable.
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But how can you narrow the gap? I enjoy posting my photos on different applications but the way they look on these applications looks so completely different from the way they look when I am editing. How would I be able to bridge the gap? Is there some settings that could help with that?
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By understanding the capabilities of different devices, and converting the images correctly for display on each device, and using applications that are color managed (because without color management, the color you are seeing might as well be random).
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Well the rendering of the photos stays VERY consistent on EVERY non-color managed software and non-color managed devices except when I bring it up in photoshop or other color managed softwares. And this never happens with any other photo that has been edited using photoshop but only occurs to photos that have been edited recently using ACR. And i have used photoshop and ACR for some time and have never had any problem with the color output on any devices or softwares. The problem only arose recently when i upgraded my computer and reinstalled my Adobe products on this computer. So i believe that it is not just some problem that non-color managed devices and softwares have with the way they interpret colors. That would lead me to question if it was a setting that was inadvertently changed or a bug that was introduced when I reinstalled the program on this computer.
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Well, Photoshop is showing it to you correctly (assuming that your display profile matches your display), while non color managed applications are showing you random colors that won't match anyone else's system.

You really need to learn more about color management. You have set your settings in a way that makes it more obvious now - but non color managed applications are always a problem.
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The problem is solved.
My problem is that I was not converting my ProPhoto colorspace to sRGB when I went to save them as JPEGs. Converting those to sRGB fixed the problem with them showing up as different colors and now the photos match with the devices rendering of the image.