Lightroom: Cloud black-up storage

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I'm a wedding photographer who shoots a LOT of images - maybe 5000 per weekend. After years to trying to backup those photos with different 3rd party plugins, clumsy cloud storage options, etc...I started to wonder, "Why doesn't Adobe offer the option to backup my photos (during import or afterwards) to the cloud on an Adobe managed service for a competitive fee?". Is it because Adobe doesn't want the liability issues or just hasn't thought of it?

The option to backup RAW and/or JPEGS and/or Smart Previews to the cloud would be immensely popular, I imagine...

Thoughts?
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If you're a CC subscriber, I believe imported photos are automatically backed up to the Adobe Cloud. The reason I know this is because I had a trial subscription of LR CC for a while (before I settled on the standalone version) and a new folder "Adobe Cloud" appeared on my computer. Imported photos appeared in my cloud account. Someone with more experience will likely explain further.

Good luck!
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I'm already a CC subscriber and have never had any indication that my photos have been backed up to any cloud service provided by Adobe...
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Julien Rancoule

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This is because Adobe is not a digital asset management specialist like AJARIS websuite or any other DAM Software. But you can look about Adobe Experience Manager which is a workflow Cloud Saas Product. In most Cases, for big data backup solutions your best options will remain local NAS in RAID1 for RAW management, and Cloud Backups if you want it for JPEG or any delivery exports.

Most of the Time (I produce around 1Tb of sourcefiles per month, I know your problem) Cloud Storage, like in classical Creative Cloud offers, will not fit with your needs. Capture One, the software of Phase One Cameras, as for me, does it
a little better, but with limits too. Lightroom Interface is really awesome, and i will always continue to use it in my workflows but...

The thing is, if you don't want to overflow your postproduction software, you MUST learn how to better use Multiple Catalog Libraries, i think. And search for a good DAM too... to improve your data logistics while keeping your workflow on the software you know best.

Interesting things to read about this subjets : 
http://www.beardsworth.co.uk/lightroom/

http://lightroomkillertips.com/should-you-create-multiple-catalogs-in-lightroom/

https://photoapps.expert/tips/2015/9/23/not-really-so-dam-mysterious-capture-one-pro-workflow#.WKTDl...

hope this helps.
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Thank you for all the good information. I do currently use multiple catalogs within LR to cut down on the performance tax and to keep things well organized. I also have a studio backup system that, though not Raid1, serves my purposes very well. 

Unfortunately, the steps you're recommending is exactly what I'm trying to avoid. What I'm suggesting is that Adobe redefine themselves to include a cloud storage option for its customers and to integrate that suggestion directly within Lightroom. Additionally, it's another potential revenue stream for the company, so to me it seems like a no-brainer...
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Gosh, you certainly right. Things i said do not anymore apply to you or me as soon as an all-in-one Postproduction Tool & Cloud Based DAM would be a dream came true.  Storage capacity is not a limit for big solutions suppliers, the only thing to deal with is bandpass between user(s) and server(s) and what kind of workflows it allows. 

I recently tried Lightroom Mobile Sync on Ipad in Combination with the new Online Lr library Tool on https://lightroom.adobe.com/libraries/ but I didn't got deep inside the thing for now...

May it be a first step prototype for Adobe Lr Developper Team on the path you suggested ?
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I think Adobe is trying to roll out almost too many synchronization options at the moment, at least with Lightroom. Personally, I don't use the LR online Library tool, finding it rather redundant and with limited functionality at best. It's a neat idea, but I don't know any of my colleagues who use it or can say it's a helpful workflow solution. Ditto for LR Mobile.

I think Adobe would please its customers (and earn a lot more cash) if it just allowed cloud storage during the import stage. Synchronization can come later, or perhaps be integrated via duplicated sidecar smart-previews, giving the option to sync cloud files with 'local' files, but not mandatory (especially if the technology isn't robust enough yet). 

I think the major hurdle, as you mention, will be bandwidth allocation, but Adobe engineers are smarter than me and could certainly figure this out.
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It certainly looks like an obvious next step. At the moment, the cloud sync only syncs smart previews to the cloud, although it does handle original raw files uploaded using mobile/web apps. Adobe previewed Project Nimbus at Adobe Max conference, which was cloud native (all originals in the cloud), but whether that'll come to Lightroom, I don't know. It would certainly be useful.
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The Lightroom Mobile and Web cloud file structure (and before that, Adobe Revel's - their closed down photo storage) is currently based on a central Library 'Lightroom Photos' and Collections that essentially just contain chosen aliases of the above for sorting purposes.

From LrM and LrW all the photos automatically sync back, full res, to Lightroom Desktop but only to one location.
From Lr Desktop to the Cloud, Photos have to be put in a Collection and Synced to the Cloud (and then only Smart Previews).

With these workflow structures, I think the Adobe will have their work cut out mapping complete Lightroom Desktop file structures (from two operating systems) to the Cloud and mirroring these in their mobile environment.

Likewise, One of the most popular feature requests for LrM is the direct syncing of RAWs to LrD avoiding the Cloud initially, to improve speed. Again it will be interesting how they can do this, as the original that makes it to the Cloud will have to find itself in LrD, as not to duplicate.

From the outside it looks as though will be difficult to integrate a whole Lightroom Desktop Catalog into a robust Cloud workflow, but who know what the Adobe techs can do? Plus would most users want it?
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I'm not even sure that the system need be so thoroughly integrated into LR's workflow, per se. Perhaps the first useful step would be to allow for simultaneous upload to the cloud during import. The synchronization of the cloud file and the 'local' file would be a great design, of course, but something that perhaps could be rolled out after first offering a 'simple' cloud storage solution for those looking to back up their RAW files.