Lightroom Classic: Cloud backup for catalogs

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This is unbelievable. 

I've lost several of my catalogs because Samsung can't make a functioning ssd and because my backup drive is corrupted. Perfect storm. They weren't backed up online, but before I'm entirely blamed for my own lack of foresight, I'm going to ask the question directly to Adobe: WHY aren't catalogs automatically backed up online to the Creative Cloud storage that we already pay for?? Why can't this happen from directly within Lightroom?? I feel that all my problems would be solved had Adobe decided (or imagined) that this might be a useful solution to integrate into their CC platform. This is really the only thing I've ever wanted, and have been requesting it since 2015. Alas, no one listens, as usual. 

Tell me this wouldn't be a great idea.
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jbedford

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It's a GREAT idea!
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jbedford

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Thanks! Fortunately I recovered the data from that drive so not all is lost. Still and all, I would very much like to see a better way to incorporate catalog backups (option to exclude previews) to a dedicated area of the cloud within the current backup dialog panel.
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You can already do that from within Lightroom. When Lightroom asks you if you want to make a catalog backup, click on the 'Choose' button and select your 'Creative Cloud Files' folder as your backup location.
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I appreciate your reply Johan, but this is still a roundabout way of going about catalog backups. I keep my catalogs on a separate ssd independent of my Adobe CC folder - Further to this, I want everything synced, not just backed up. That's the key for me.

What I'm suggesting is, in addition to the catalog backup settings that currently exist, an option to backup only the catalog to an area of the cloud dedicated exclusively to LRCC catalog backups. 
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I think you've completely misunderstood what Johan was suggesting. He did not suggest moving your CATALOGS (and associated previews) to the Adobe CC folder, instead he suggested that you redirect the location of the catalog BACKUPS that you make on exit, specifying your Adobe CC folder as the new location for those backups.

That would give you exactly what I think you have requested, using existing features, and would thus require no development effort from Adobe.
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Thanks Jim, I do understand and yes his solution makes sense however I'd like the ability to sync / backup my catologs to the cloud automatically within Lightroom. Perhaps I wasn't exactly clear about this in my previous reply.
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Johan Elzenga, Champion

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I'm not sure what 'within' Lightroom means, and why this would make any difference to what I proposed. When you quit Lightroom, it asks you to make a catalog backup. If you do as I explained (you only have to do this once), that catalog backup will be synced to the cloud automatically from now on. Perhaps you are unaware of the fact that your Creative Cloud Files folder is automatically synced to the cloud, just like a Dropbox folder?
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MS does something like this: https://rcpmag.com/articles/2019/01/30/onedrive-office-365-default-save.aspx

What the OP is suggesting (I think) is autosaving changes made to the catalog automatically into the cloud, without having to specifically click a backup button. Much like MS Office products do when we are working on a document.

The other nuance is, backing up a catalog minus the previews will ensure that bandwidth and cloud space are both optimized. 

I would add a different dimension, of block level vs file level sync. 
According to this post (https://bkpk.me/sync-lightroom-catalogs-using-the-cloud/) dropbox provides block level sync.

Lastly, as per this FAQ, CC is a file-level sync, not block level. https://helpx.adobe.com/in/creative-cloud/kb/creative-cloud-connection-faq.html
When you change a file, the entire file syncs. Differential or block-level sync is not currently supported.

So there are certainly ways in which this offering can be improved. 
The title could be better stated as "Automatic block level cloud backup for catalogs without previews", I noticed that the status is set to "Implemented" which is probably right as per the OP title, but maybe this needs a relook via a different ticket. 

As long as CC doesn't offer block level sync, DropBox is the better cloud backup option for catalogs.
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