Photoshop: Can't place images into documents at their 100% original pixel size

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Here's my original post explaining the issue:
https://forums.adobe.com/message/9382308#9382308

And a screengrab illustrating it:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/w4ztci33am0g0gt/photoshop-placing-problems.mp4?dl=0

Regardless of whether or not I'm placing an image as a smart object or a regular raster image layer, I can't ensure I'm placing them at their actual 100% pixel size. When the image's PPI resolution is different, it will be placed at a different size, but still be reported as 100%. This is a pain because I need to know when I'm scaling something up too far (past 100%) and causing it to look grainy.
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Yes. This is a huge issue for many of us and Adobe has insisted that it's "Working As Intended."
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As far as I can tell, the W and H percentage is only telling us how the file is being displayed within the confines of the target document's resolution. If I bring an image in that's 1250x1250, and the document is 3300x2550-300 pppi, the SO will fill the document proportionally and tell me that it's being displayed at something over 50%. It's obviously being displayed at a size larger than it was created at, not 100% of its pixel size, but that's resolution for you. Or perhaps I should say, that's pixels not having a physical size for you.

The opposite happens if I bring in a file scanned at 800 ppi. It comes in smaller than at 1 to 1 pixels, so it tells me, having placed it smaller than it could be, that the file is being placed (and displayed) at 100%. It is. I see it as big as it can get so long as it's resolution is 800 to my document's resolution of 300. Because PS is resolution dependent and doesn't seem to be able to work in pixels instead of print resolution, the only solution I've found is to use the Info panel, along with Bridge giving me the actual pixel count of the incoming document, so I can size it accordingly, assuming I want to avoid problems with resampling.

I know the subject has come up in many discussions. It might be more work than they want to take on to change something SO fundamental to the program that they can let us choose to display an incoming file as 1 to 1 in pixels, or as resolution dependent. They tell us how many pixels the incoming document has when sized to the resolution of the document, and that may be as good as it's going to get.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Need option to ignore resolution when placing Smart Objects.

Smart Objects are apparently supposed to be used for print--they refer to an image's resolution when being placed into Photoshop documents. This causes scaling problems when images use different resolutions. (https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/cant-place-images-into-photoshop-documents-at...)

Smart Objects are SUPER useful for all sorts of things beyond just print design. I design for the web so I don't care about resolution, which I think is a perfectly valid use case. I would love to be able to place Smart Objects into documents at their actual 100% pixel dimensions, without any regard to their resolution.

In searching for a solution to this I've found tons of folks with the same problem, and the responses are always "This is how its supposed to work." I know I know I know, Smart Objects rely on an image's resolution, which is on purpose and sometimes useful. What I'm asking for is maybe an option in Preferences to turn that off. My fellow web designers and I would be infinitely grateful!
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>  I would love to be able to place Smart Objects into documents at their actual 100% pixel dimensions, without any regard to their resolution.>

I would, too. I don't want to have to dive into Preferences, but would love a modifier key that let me say bring in the pixels you count and ignore document resolution—just match the pixels. Let me be responsible for whether or not that is the right workflow—like Embed/Link. Both may be fraught with danger to the unwitting user, but if they allow Embed/Link, can they tell us why it's impossible to allow 1:1 pixels or resolution-dependent? As it is, I still have to check constantly in the Info panel to know if I'm working safely. I don't know anything about the programming behind it. If it's not possible, then let them say so and we can quit wishing it were all somehow easier to deal with.