Camera Raw 8.3 and 8.4 limit editing efforts

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Camera Raw 8.3 and 8.4 issue - when either of these plug-ins are installed in Photoshop Elements 12.0 on a Windows 7 machine, I7 processor, with 16 gigabytes of Ram, I get an "out of RAM" notice after processing a group of 25 photos - I get this notice after it processes 15 - 17 photos. I edit approximately 500 - 1000 photos a month and this is a severe issue. I have had to roll back the Camera Raw version to 8.0 (I don't have access to 8.1 or 8.2 to see if either these have the issue as well.)
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Elements 12 is still a 32-bit application on Windows as is the ACR plug-in, so you won't have nearly all that memory available, and newer versions of ACR are doing more things so likely use more memory and also trying to speed things up by caching more in memory. You can try adjusting the PSE reserved memory percentage up or down to see if that gives or leave more memory for ACR.

It may be time for Photoshop, perhaps via the PS+LR bundle for $10/month for a limited time:
https://creative.adobe.com/plans/offe...
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That might be an option for someone who gets paid to do the amount of editing I do. Unfortunately, I work gratis for two non-profits - so that won't happen anytime soon. I've spent 24 hours playing with various options within Photoshop Elements - so it may be time to try another company's standard photo editing programs - there are a couple of 64-bit ones out there. May get a trial version of one of those and bid Adobe adieu. They can't seem to get their act together.
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Apparently due to resource limitations, you are using a consumer-level product for a professional-level of processing. I wouldn't blame Adobe for that.

They have multiple sets of photo-editing software and aren't going to make the cheap one work as well as the expensive one, nor cut off support for the cheap one (require Windows 7 as a minimum) and alienate many of their customers who use it, so they can use the same code base for 32-bit and 64-bit and have the development be cost-effective. In other words, I believe Elements is still 32-bit on Windows because many people still use XP which really isn't a viable platform for developing 64-bit software and Elements isn't the only photo-processing software Adobe sells so they don't spend all their development budget making it both 32-bit ands 64-bit. A company that only sells one photo-processing product might do things differently.

The non-CC version of Lightroom might be another option that costs about as much as Elements to upgrade, but has full raw capability and you can Edit In Elements one-by-one if you need Elements-specific processing after doing the bulk of the processing in LR.

PS+LR for $10/month is getting $1000+$140 of software for $120/year.
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I tried one of your suggestions - I dropped the available RAM usage in PREFERENCES to 1365 megabytes - this allowed Camera Raw 8.3 to work on all 25 photos - I had been allowing usage of up to 2500 megabytes. Seems counter-intuitive, since I'm only using 4400 megabytes of the 16000 megabytes of RAM even now. Oh well, such is the life of computers.
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Adobe is doing some tricks to even get the 32-bit program usage above the less-than-4GB limit normal 32-bit programs have.

What might be intuitive, that ACR is required to use the memory you've allocated to PSE, so allocating more to PSE will give ACR more, is likely not the case. Rather, ACR uses memory that is outside of PSE's allocation, so when PSE has less allocated to itself, ACR can use more of what is left.

There may be various types of memory, some shared, some separate, so the actual scenario may be more complicated, but it is a common recommendation for Photoshop, to reduce its footprint to allow plug-ins to use more memory, which is why I suggested doing this with Elements.
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It worked - thanks for the suggestion!