ACR Camera calibration process, "profile" keeps changing between photos

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I am trying to edit brand new photos in ACR CC and my ACR keeps going between "current" and "2003" in the Camera Calibration Tab> process>. Super frustrating bc the tools keep changing on me. It goes back and forth from one photo to the next. I understand how to change it (in the tab or click the exclamation point) but I am pretty sure this is not suppose to happen. How do I fix this? Thanks in advance for the help!
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Brand new files should start with "Current" but previously-edited files could have whatever version was "current" at that time or whatever version they were last edited with.

Is it possible that the files were edited with an older Photoshop or Lightroom years ago and have settings in themselves, even if they are new to you, or are they new out of a camera or scanner?

If these are JPGs or TIFs or PSDs then the adjustment settings can be embedded in the file, itself; whereas, if they are raw files, there would have to be an accompanying XMP side-car that contained the settings, or a camera-raw database on the computer that contained the settings from long ago.

I think it is also possible to set ACR defaults based on filetype so perhaps all JPGs are one and all TIFs another?
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They are all raw files from photoshoots this week. I just switched over to CC last week so these are the first sessions I am doing in CC with these files.

Is there a difference in the Autodownloader? maybe I downloaded them with the old "get files from camera" and then pulled them into ACR CC and that's the problem. What do you think and how can I fix?
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Should the camera profile be "adobe standard"...I shoot nikon D700
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I always use Lightroom on my photos, initially, so I am not really familiar with how you might be downloading with Photoshop. I only use Photoshop from within LR for things that LR can't do, easily.

It is possible to save the process-version as a new ACR default, and it is possible to make ACR defaults specific to camera serial number and ISO, so it would be possible to have a different default process-version for different ISOs. It is also possible to save Process Version as part of a preset that you apply to photos (or at least you can with LR when you import them) so could any of the variation you're seeing be attributable to a difference in ISO-specific Defaults or a difference in applied preset?

There are also different defaults between RAW vs JPG.

As far as what camera profile to use, that's up to you. The non-Adobe-Standard profiles try to simulate various Nikon camera modes, but if you're not seeing a problem then you can leave it as Adobe Standard. ACR is not going to set a different camera profile based on what settings a particular shot was taken with in the camera, but you're free to use whatever ones you want.

If you were shooting with several different models and manufacturer's cameras then using Adobe Standard would probably produce more similar results amongst them, like between Canon and Nikon, for example, but if you're just shooting with one camera body then there's nothing else to try to match with.
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Yes, the default profile is Adobe Standard. As Steve said, you can change this to whatever you want.

The default Process Version for new images (without previous settings) is 2012.
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Eric - Is there a difference in the downloaders (from camera to computer) as some of my files in the same set were both 2003 and other current.
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Steve - Thank you for your help with the profile question. Much appreciated and I will leave it on Adobe standard for now.
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Eric has said what the Adobe default is. I have told you how you may have gotten something that is not the Adobe default for a particular ISO by having changed the Adobe Camera Raw defaults for a particular ISO.

You are the one, there, with the photos, and are going to have to find the pattern of what photos are PV2003 or PV2010 and what are the expected PV2012. If you can figure out the pattern then perhaps we can figure out how to correct things and have everything be the same PV as would be expected. Adobe software doesn't randomly assign PV to different photos so it is something that it set differently on your computer or something your doing to the photos that you're not realizing, yet.

Since Adobe defaults can be made specific to ISO, then an example of a pattern would be all the photos with ISO 400 are PV2003 and the rest are PV2012.

Another example of a pattern would be all the photos downloaded last night are PV2003 and the rest are PV2012.
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One thing I'm not sure about that you've said is the word "downloaders". To me that word refers to a program that is used to download photos from the camera to the computer and using the plural form of the word suggests you use more than one program to download photos to the computer. If so, can you tell us what programs those are?.

Now, if you meant "downloads" which to me means download sessions or a particular point in time when you download a particular set of photos, for example, I downloaded photos from last week yesterday afternoon, and I download photos from this morning at noon today, then yesterday would have had a download session and today at noon would be another download session.

So if you are asking if one download session would have one PV and another would have another PV then no, all would be the same default of the current version (PV2012) unless that was changed by some preset you were applying to all the photos during the download process of that download session.

Can you describe the details of the process or the various processes you use to get photos from your camera to the computer and the first time you view them in a way where you know what the process version is.
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In general, images with previous edits are going to have the process version of those edits preserved. For example, images coming from older versions of Lr and/or ACR may be candidates for having the PV default or "fall back" to 2003, because that was effectively the processing engine available at the time those older edits were made.

All newly-imported images that don't have corresponding edits should always default to the current process version, which (at present) is 2012.

There aren't any differences between "downloaders"; they should all import the images and treat the PV the same way.
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Thank you, Eric. That's the answer I was looking for. Much appreciated!