Camera Raw 9.10.1: Transform upright guided perspective correction issue

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Sorry if this is unclear as I'm
not great with explanations, but I think there's an annoying little bug in Camera Raw, specifically the Upright Transform feature, even more specifically the "guided" option.

 

So, I do real estate photography full time and I use the transform tool for upright/perspective correction in Camera Raw for practically every image I shoot. I bracket exposures so when correcting distortion and perspective it's extremely important that every image in a set lines up exactly, so I do batch edits for some adjustments.

 

The issue I have is when I select a batch that I've bracketed to correct together as a group, when I use the Guided Upright tool, there is usually one photo in the bracket that does not adjust with the others. So, when I first noticed this was a problem, after I would draw my guide lines I would synchronize the batch, which is annoying but somehow has worked its way into my muscle memory. But then I noticed that even then, it doesn't always synchronize the transformation through the set. Also, synchronizing the set as opposed to applying the one change to the selected set of images can be a big time-waster as well when you're dealing with thousands of images per day, and end up having other adjustments overwritten such as white balance or exposure, and going back to recorrect everything once again.

 

By the way, this issue only applies to the guided upright tool where you draw the little lines, not the automatic. Auto works just fine, but sometimes auto is not always correct as one would expect. Is this just a bug or some reason this does not work? Has anyone else experienced or noticed this? Hopefully this gets worked out in an update. I use this tool all the time and it's a shame when I have to throw a bracket out because it didn't adjust with the rest of them.

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Johan Elzenga, Champion

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I assume you use the bracketed exposures to create an HDR, otherwise they would not have to line up. So the solution seems easy: create the HDR first, then use Guided Upright on the HDR result rather than on the individual exposures.
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Well, if I were editing the final version it would be. HDR is never used thank god, masking to blend by hand is. Which, your method would work for as well.

However, this a) does not fix the software bug and b)  wouldn't work for my purposes unfortunately.

I work for a company where the photographers are not the main editors so we can spend more of our time shooting, and we are required to send our images to a team of editors. One of the very few things we are responsible for before sending our files is upright/perspective/distortion. So if they are not corrected before sending, they remain uncorrected in the final version. For some reason our editors don't fix that, likely because they already have a lot to do in a short period of time. So a bug fix in the future would be greatly appreciated.
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How do you synchronize the settings? You have three options: a) Upright Mode, b) Upright Transforms, c) Transform Adjustments. In this case, I believe you should use c). The other two may recalculate the adjustments for each image.
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This is in Camera Raw. It's definitely a bug because it's ONLY the "guided" function; auto, horizontal, and vertical are all fine.

I use the Transform button on the top to get to the upright tool where I can use the Upright function, or manual controls. First I start by selecting a group of images and go to the menu where I click Auto. If that doesn't work, I draw the guides in. Typically one or two of the images do not synchronize. So then I ALT+S to synchronize the group with all the selections checked, including Transform. Then I'll see the little (!) on the thumbnail on the side meaning something is being adjusted. Sometimes it doesn't work the first try so I have to do it two or three times before it fixes it. Sometimes it won't work upon my first selection of it so I deselect and only synchronize only a single image with the offender and it will work.

What seems to work best as a temporary fix is to draw the guides, click "Auto" so the guides remain, then click "Guided" again. This is the fastest solution. But, again, I am here to report a bug that would be lovely if it was fixed.

This is fine and whatever but when someone has to adjust/convert/upload on average 1000 images a day within a few hours, this is a huge waste of time for what could be no time at all.
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I have the same problem, I'm also working with loads of images of real estate. Have you found a solution?
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Unfortunately I have not and none of the recent updates have solved the problem. The only thing i can really do is select the batch before doing any other edits and apply the transformations, then sync all in that batch, and proceed with the rest of my adjustments. Which wastes a lot of time when you’re doing over a thousand images a day
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If you are shooting that many images, its long past time for a tilt-shift lens or two. Above and beyond software issues.