Camera Raw 12.3: How to revert UI to older version, one with vertical filmstrip?

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after updating photoshop , when i opened it for the first time there was option to use camera raw as it is (vertical film) or to change it to new UI (with new look and horizontal filmstrip ), i just clicked new UI to see how it looks , i thought if i dont like it i will just go back to using older UI but there is no option to select older UI , i contacted adobe but person who was helping me just suggested that i should install older version of camera raw or ask for help from this forum , i found it bit frustrating that if there was simple option to choose new UI so why not give option to revert back to older UI with newly updated software. maybe its bug or adobe forcing people to use new UI even if they dont like it
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Camera Raw 12.3 - New GUI is cluttered... :-(.

I have installed the new Camera Raw 12.3...

And now the GUI is really cluttered and an absolut step backwards!
This must be a Joke...

Please give us the Possibility to revert to the old GUI!
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samir jadeja

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Yes there should be option to revert back ,adobe help person suggested use older version and above Johan replied that i should not update, i mean seriously so bad  response and suggestion from Adobe and Johan both.
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someone can literally suck my big fat stinky powerful big toe if they want to tell me to be a forward thinker and use 12.3. Power users will note that their long used keyboard shortcuts, basic functionality, color coding, window maximization, and streamlined experience is all out the window with this update. reverting to 12.2 was the best thing i did this week. my only issue now is bridge isn't synced with ACR anymore. smh adobe. i pay for a working tool. and now it works worse. LIGHTroom is for LIGHT users. it's the apple photos app adobe equivalent. editing 6000 photos this week alone isn't possible in a fluffy childproof software like LR. i need TOOLS THAT WORK. that's why i pay for this shit. thank you.
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Billy Ben

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Philip expressing the emotional feelings of the majority in his post. Thank you. 
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Andrew Rodney

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Phil, please  literally revert to 12.2; I can't imagine anyone wanting to suck on you big fat stinky powerful toe. 
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Lucian Dixon

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Thank you, Philip! Thank you Billy Ben!
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1. Cropping - why the function doesn't work, "limit to image". In the old version, you could crop outside the image. Now only within the image. Whatever option you choose.
2. Zooming - works only in the style of Ligtroom. If I wanted to choose a lightroom, I would choose Lightroom. Traditional zoom does not work. The selection option in the preferences does not work.
3. Why is the automatic preset preview still available? It really slows down work. It serves nothing.
4. The tools at the top of Interface were more convenient. For example, the transition from cropping to image straightening was intuitive and fast. Now you need to open some cards ... In addition, there is plenty of undeveloped space at the top. You have placed all buttons and functions on the right. They are strangled like mice in the corner. It is not convenient to use. etc. etc ...
Adobe — why are you changing this? Why change something that works well for long time? Again ...
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Yes you are right ,
No option to extend canvas in crop anymore.
no option to move tools from right to top or anywhere else
UI dont feel smooth even with 32gb ram i7 9th gen
Even removed save button in bottom and moved open images also to right side
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Also, Esc no longer lets you exit camera raw window without making any changes.

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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Camera Raw 12.3 Is Horrible.

This absolutely is the worst update ever done by Adobe. Everything is crammed on the right side and the text is so small it's unreadable on a 17" laptop. I've been using Photoshop since CS2 but I simply can't use this version of ACR. Give us the option of reverting to the prior version. I can live without the few new features.
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I completely agree........this is horrible. I'm wondering if it's  possible to uninstall the update so I can reinstall it and then pick the old UI.....I can't even work with this and the font is so small it' s useless.
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and why I can't have an option in a new ACR UI __NOT__ to have star rate & thrash can visible to me @ the bottom ? why I can't position tool tab back on top ? why so much blank space is wasted @ the bottom of ACR window now ? get those people some training in usability
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You can click on the little icon, in the bottom, left to get rid of the filmstrip(blank space?).
 
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I don’t mind the new layout and improvements but a massive fail is moving the tool bar on the right hand side as opposed to it being along the top of the window. It requires about 3 times more mouse/cursor travel, and on big screens that gets seriously annoying. Please provide an option to choose top or right for the tool bar
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Even i dont mind new UI but they should have kept all buttons and tools on their original position. save as and open images also changed to top and bottom right i prefer the way it was close to each other on bottom left side.
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Totally agree- on 27" iMac, that’s a lot of moussing to get from far left, where I chose to keep vertical filmstrip view (and with my screen propositions mean that space is not being used anyway, where as if I have filmstrip on bottom, image itself is now at least 20% smaller in raw window), and the narrow stretch of real estate where the tools are now squeezed/hidden. Still unused space on top to return them to.

Also, any reminders on my computer block some of the tools. Lastly, the logical place to look for menu type tool selections is...well, on the top, near the menu. I really don’t want to have to take time I should be working to relearn how to use the camera raw window, when the changes seem more cosmetic than functional.

I think this UI update was not well thought out, and could use some more work.

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Agreed, for event photography it used to be the fastest option. Now it's added about 4 seconds per image. Way too slow when I have 1000 images to process per event.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Camera Raw 12.3, No option to use the old ACR layout. Why?.

Camera Raw 12.3 update has to be the worst ACR update yet. 
With no option to use the old-style layout that we are used to. As a full-time photographer time is money and I do not have the time to go through another learning curve, especially for no reason other than someone at Adobe, decided to change everything around in ACR. What makes this worse is that the new update has slowed down my workflow and made it a lot more difficult to see the tools on my 13" laptop when I am on location. This is because all the tools are now crammed into a small space making it very cluttered. This does not make any sense as there is still room where the tools used to be, so this has achieved nothing!

I have had to revert back to the old Camera Raw 11.4.1, just so I can get on with my job, which is completely ridiculous! 

I hope Adobe can fix this soon. 

Link to revert back to the old Camera Raw 11.4.1
https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/kb/camera-raw-plug-in-installer.html
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Please offer a choice of UI design.

As many have said here, if we wanted the Lightroom style, we'd use Lightroom. I've got the option to use LR but I don't as I really don't like the UI. Now, the software that I've grown to understand so well over the years has disappeared with no choice in the matter allowed.

I'm a professional photographer, working to a deadline, and have just opened my laptop to file a set of images and have absolutely no idea how to find anything on the software that my company pays a lot of money for.

I have no problem with it being an option but please PLEASE make it exactly that; an option.
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Hey, Leon - I absolutely agree about Lightroom - I don't like anything about it which is why I've been so happy to - up till this poing - still use ACR - i.e., 12.2.  12.3 is a total disaster. 
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100% I too am a professional and agreed to an Adobe update, only to walk into this today. It will now take me all day to process yesterdays photos, instead of just this morning. That's wasted half a days when I would be advertising
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I reverted to the previous camera raw but had to revert to the previous Bridge version also to get raw and tif thumbnails to show. So far, everything looks back to normal now. Thanks to those that posted the raw reversion link.
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Just took my ACR back to 12.2.1 via https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/kb/camera-raw-plug-in-installer.html#12_x  ... Bridge seems to be working fine without moving it back (RAW & TIF thumbnails are showing).  My Bridge version is 9.1.0.338 (up to date according to ACC installer) -- Is there a need to roll Bridge back as well?
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Seriously Adobe how on earth could the software engineers have ever thought this was a good idea to completely do away with a UI that has been working for many many years? This new set up is like a fisher price romperoom UI. Why no download for ACR 12.1? Typical engineers absolutely no common sense.

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Jerry S'alur

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Part of the dumbing down of western society.
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Of course downgrading to ACR 11.4.3 totally messes up using the latest Bridge as Bridge can longer render full thumbnails using ACR 11.4.3 and ACR 11.4.3 can not be used through the lastest Bridge luckily ACR 11.4.3 opens in the latest Photoshop which again is backwards intuitive.

Adobe this is a total joke.
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Official Response
If you want to refer to 12.2.1, you can do so here: https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/kb/camera-raw-plug-in-installer.html#12_x
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When was the last time an Adobe employee told you, outside an NDA, what Adobe would be proving in a future release of ANY Adobe product. 
You can ask of course. Don't be too upset if you don't get an answer. 
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It's not too much of a high expectation. 
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Thank you so much! ACR is again usable. Alas, if Adobe desided new awful UI stays forever, we're stuck with no updated for a long time. 
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Jeffrey, why are you defending the UI when most hate it? You are a senior Adobe employee and seems like you are not listening to what your customers want! Instead you ban anyone who questions the apple cart!
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Lucian Dixon

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My question to Jeffrey as well.  
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Good grief - I created a login to this site for the sole reason to chime in on this thread and say how completely F'd up the ACR 12.3 is !!!!!!! I used to run a software dev team and I can promise you this stupidity of an update didn't go through one single honest-to-goodness USER of ACR !!!  If they did, the project director should be fired. I mean seriously, apart from the total screwup of the new interface, have you tried the CROP tool? The damn thing stays in the middle of the page and you have to move the entire photo underneath the crop frame - SHEER STUPIDITY !!!!! why on G's green earth Adobe feels compelled to continually jack with stuff that NO ONE WANTS OR ASKS FOR is the most infuriating thing about being an Adobe customer. Another person reverting to 12.2.1 to maintain sanity due to this STOOOOOOPID interface update.
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Totally agree with you. Zero respect shown by Adobe to its users.
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The objective verdict after a few hours in the muddy trenches of post w/ ACR 12.3 last night, then sleeping on it.... 

Without getting into specifics, I did encounter a few noticeable improvements, or maybe I should say feature enhancements - which could have easily been implemented without any UI/UX modification.

Overall, the new UI is arguably "cleaner" than the previous interface, but "design for design's sake" has NO PLACE in the UI/UX of workflow software. Functionally the new UI is poorly conceived and very inefficient to use. 

ATTN: ACR PRODUCT MGR / TEAM...
  • Why didn't you inform AND involve boots-on-the-ground power-users with this release? 
  • Why didn't you give users an option to TRY the new interface first? 
  • Why didn't you provide a rollback option for the previous UI?
I stick by my original post statement that there is absolutely NO WAY that anyone who uses ACR on a consistent basis within a professional photography workflow would have voted for this change, or would give the 12.3 release anything more than 1 star out of 5 - and the only reason for one star is because at least 12.3 doesn't outright bomb when launched.

Final Take: The UI/UX update of Adobe's ACR 12.3 release is maddeningly inefficient, completely unwarranted, and a genuine affront to professional users.
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Agree 100%. My former workflow was developed over many, many years of heavy use, allowing me to speed through dozens, and or hundreds of RAW images from a professional photo session. It had become like second nature, without taking any time to think about each step along the way. The process was an amazingly "well oiled machine" that has been totally destroyed. That well-developed workflow was the one thing that has always stopped me from considering other systems, such as Topaz Studio (not wanting to re-invest the time and energy to re-learn a new flow) I can only imaging how long it will take to re-develop such a skilled workflow with the new UI. I will definitely be taking another look at Topaz Studio -- since Adobe has forced me into this corner.
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I completely agree.......whatever minor benefit was derived was wiped out by the changes in the UI itself. Working on a laptop often means that  everything is now crammed into a very small area and difficult to work with.  Some things, like vignette are in multiple places, completely unnecessary. There was no reason to not leave the targeted adjustment tool as a stand alone and it now has less useability because it can only be used in the panels in which it's included. This was a terrible disservice to the customer base especially for those of us who intentionally do not use LR. If we wanted this type of UI, we would be using  LR. This needs to be fixed so that the customer has the option of using the old UI or the new one. There was no indication that this wouldn't be an option.
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Look at Adobe's response...ignore.
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I, too, absolutely dislike the changes made with ACR 12.3. It took some reading to find out how to make the adjustment brush keep it's setting. Zooming is now as pitiful as in LR. 
Cropping in ACR 12.3 is practically unusable for me (i7, 16Gb, internal graphics). It used to be fine, ACR used to be fine and fast. Not anymore. It just downloaded 12.2.1.
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I reverted back to 12.1 today after 2 days of using the 12.3 update which seriously affected the speed of my workflow. I use Camera Raw every day as a professional photographer.

I use a 5 x 7 crop format often and in the old version the crop format stayed at 5 x 7 aspect ratio unless I used something else. With the 12.3 update the aspect ratio is always at 2 x 4 / 4 x 6 and I have to click each and every time to get 5 x 7. I want to click less to get what I want done, done.

Cropping? Having to move the image around behind the crop frame was time consuming. That UI is not effective imo.

Like Alan Shadduck above my process was like a "well oiled machine" and the new UI was like working with a clunky, sputtering machine.  

I've never felt the need to write and complain until the Camera Raw 12.3 update.


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My pleasure William. I am also a long time PS user. I've always been happy with previous update to both PS and ACR. This one surprised me in how much longer it took for me to do the things I do on a daily basis.
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I went back to 12.2.1 yesterday. Process was quick and seamless, everything is back to normal (no conflicts with most current version of Bridge) and I've never been happier with a software install. Am grateful for those that provided helpful posts here.
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UPDATE on my last reply: Although things seemed "back to normal" the illusion vanished after a system reboot, which has left me with Bridge failing to display thumbnails. So, I have once again installed 12.3 to simply regain some usability (albeit with an infinitely crippled workflow). Any suggestions on which prior versions of Bridge and ACR work and play well together would be appreciated. :(
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And why oh why have the download icon on the very corner that you click on to choose the next image, from all the way from the right side of the screen where I had to click on crop to zoom out. Much too much work
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I couldn't agree more.  // Since my post above asking how to revert to ACR 12.12.1 I've learned from various posts how to do it, I guess.  I haven't tried it because I have put a hell of a lot of work into my Photoshop / Bridge / ACR workflow through the years and I was very happy with the way things were.  Since the original directions as to how to do it came from someone whose advice I do not trust, I've been wary.  Fortunately, others have mentioned the same changes so I will try them over this weekend.  I still do not understand what the hell Adobe was thinking when they ambushed us with these changes sending us onto a one-way street which is a dead end.  I've been a loyal Adobe user for about 26 years now and don't want to use any other software if I don't have to but my work is far to important to me - and to my clients - to trust it to an untrustworthy software company. 
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After having had  a go with ACR 12.3. on my 13" laptop that I carry along on assignments my dislike for this update is fortified. The Full HD screen is set  to 125% and this results in lots of scrolling to reach tools or buttons that were readily accessible before. This makes one wonder if anybody seriously working has ever tested this UI redesign. 

Cropping... another mess. Selecting the crop tool reduces the size the image is displayed and after being cropped the image is not resized to fit the ACR window again like it was done in previous versions. 

I simply don't get why Adobe would think that it's better to have two tools being very similar instead of two providing a different workflow for different needs. The number of (professional) photographers prefering the speed and UI simplicity of the "old" ACR should not be small. 

PS and LR always pushing to the foreground when starting up, continuously obstucting working with other programs in the meantime, littering my computer with Adobe folders everywhere, even where completely out of place like My Documents for settings, to me is symbolic for Adobe's perception of itself and it's software - we are important, not the user. 

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Couldn't agree more. The process to revert to 12.2.1 that I did yesterday was quick and easy, it works flawlessly with the most recent version of Bridge, and most important I have my super-efficient workflow back https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/kb/camera-raw-plug-in-installer.html#12_x
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Totally agree about the cropping- why would you want to see the image smaller when you are making critical judgments when cropping? And if I cancel the crop, the image does not return to Fit on screen size either.

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I agree the cropping in ACR is not very user friendly
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Updated Adobe Camera Raw.

After the latest Adobe Camera Raw, I hate the UI and can't change it to the old layout. Had to rolk back to old version Camera Raw.
Change to the interface very bad and there isn't an option to have new ACR with old, tried and tested layout.
Please bring back the proper UI/layout.
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Here’s why the UI of the latest version of #CameraRaw is a mess. There is a confusion as some sliders are similar and there is no clear separation between group of features.


Also, instead of keeping all tools that were previously directly available on the toolbar, now some are hidden in sub panels, forcing the user to click more to access them.



You tell me to reinstall v12.2.1 to use the previous version of the UI. But Camera Raw 12.2.1 does not load anymore in Bridge 2020 v10.1 even if I restart my Mac. But it loads in Bridge CC2018.

Here’s #CameraRaw 12.2.1 in Bridge CC2018 where ALL the primary tools can be selected straight away. And no, it is not an issue if they’re in the upper left corner, they’re even closer to the image. Putting them in the upper right corner is a mistake.



And when I start to edit photos, I usually go to 3 places: Lens, Details, Basic settings. 1 click, 2nd click, 3rd click. With the new UI, I need to scroll and find the set of features as they are not clearly separated.
Bad UI, bad UX, bad decision.






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branislavmilic this is clearly a business decision by Adobe to change the UI than better design as you have clearly demonstrated. This new UI design causes the user to make 5 times as many actions to get the same things done. If you are working several thousand images in a day can amount to tens of thousands of extra clicks mousing and scrolling.

Having to roll back to previous versions has been a disaster. It's as if the old versions for download were poorly coded beta versions not meant for the public.

Here are ACR 12.3 and ACR 12.2.1



The compact and efficient icon tab bar is now replaced by a word based menu scroll bar system which takes up the entire window. This is being pushed as a modern interface that gives the user more flexibility. Just checking all the settings before was a mouse click mouse click mouse click... that has now become mouse click mouse  scroll mouse click - mouse click mouse scroll mouse click - mouse click mouse scroll mouse click etc.
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I am not opposed to changes, if the changes maintain similar, or brings better, ease of operation and workflow efficiency, and ideally more functionality.

I don’t inherently dislike the change to collapsing side panels from previous tabbed panels, but perhaps some hybrid where the tiny vertical side toolbar is moved to above the panels, similar to where the icon tabs were located in the previous version, under the Histogram, thereby minimizing the distance traveled to reach tools, and still using the muscle memory of going to that area to select tools/panels?

And then of course, fix all the other bugs & quibbles raised in this thread ;).

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Another thing I just realized- I worked on an image in Camera Raw, lastly using the Geometry panel, opened it into Photoshop, did some work, and closed the image. Then I opened a totally new image, but Camera Raw defaults to opening the Geometry panel for some reason, not the Basic panel as the last version did (and I would want it to, since for just about every image I would start working in the Basic panel, but I would never want to start in the Geometry panel- 99% of the images I never even open that panel). I tried selecting other panels, then opening images, and each time, the subsequent image opened to the last panel used.

However, if I use the Adjustment Brush, then the next image opened does indeed default to the Basic panel.

Previously, when new images were opened, it defaulted to the Basic adjustments. Is there a setting hidden somewhere I may have missed? I have preferences set to Solo Mode, BTW.

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During my Raw Photography trainings, people are surprised why I will cover Bridge, Camera Raw, and then Lightroom. “You"ll see...” I tell them. 
  1. When I have finished a day of shooting, I copy first all the photos in a folder on the Desktop. 
  2. Then I make a first selection in Bridge with stars and labels. Why I need to add hundreds of files in Lightroom's database if it is to remove 90% at the end?
  3. Then I edit all my photos in Camera Raw, simply because the UI is faster.
  4. Sometimes I do a roundtrip in Photoshop.
  5. Then, when I have finished developing, I apply metadata. 
  6. Finally, I add everything in Lightroom just for the archive. 
This is the moment where I show them how to develop in Lightroom.

After a few exercices, I ask them:
— “Where do you prefer to develop? In Camera Raw or in Lightroom?”
— My attendees say “Camera RAW”.
— Me: “Why?” 
Attendees: “More efficient, easier UI.”

We are talking here about the tabbed horizontal set of features organized by categories. 

There you go Adobe. 
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Jerry S'alur

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Photoshop is far better than Lr....
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Put back the old UI and throw away the latest one as it's the perfect example of what not to do in UX/UI. 
Before you even definitively erase the code and assets of this UI, make some souvenir screenshots to use them for a course about failed UX/UIs.

Thank you.
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The other options out there are 10 times worse than Adobes modern UI in ACR 12.3. I am certain I can live without photography.

Look if you are happy with an interface that functions like you are shopping online at Walmart or Target and Best Buy then you are tinkled pink with the new ACR UI.
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Fred Baxter:  No matter where you go, there will always be change. Those that adapt and evolve are survivors, those that do not....
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You're confusing me even more.. if the other options are 10 times worse, then why are you complaining about something that's 10 times better? And again, if editing your pics are that paramount, then photography wasn't for you in the first place as it seems like the carriage is carrying the horse. 
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Jerry S'alur

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It appears that our Andrew loves to use quotations to justify his rather nasty demeanor against fellow forum members.
It's a pity there is no block or ignore feature so we don't have to read comments that provide zero value to any such topic.

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Jerry S'alur

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It appears that our Andrew loves to use quotations to justify his rather nasty demeanor against fellow forum members.
It's a pity there is no block or ignore feature so we don't have to read comments that provide zero value to any such topic.

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Interesting how criticisms on other boards - specifically replies to Adobe's hired gun "bloggers" - are being blocked and removed, while the authors (pretty much to a person) say absolutely NOTHING about the problems that are creating a tidal wave of backlash against Adobe for the ACR 12.3 debacle.

Strangely enough, I've found quite a few ACR 12.3 "preview" articles on the web, but NONE of them (that I can find) gave any type of "heads up" on the UI and workflow problems. Rather, and quite coincidentally, it seems ALL of the pre-release information is basically the same, and extremely similar to Adobe's official release information. 

Sure, I get it... the hired guns and sponsored gurus are just towing the line, regurgitating paid propaganda and cashing their checks. But real "photography" sites and bloggers should be ashamed of themselves for NOT being independent, reliable voices in the market.

I'm a single individual and working designer / photographer, paying a lot of money for the Adobe Creative Cloud subscription. I have a right to be VERY MAD about being blind-sided like this by a software company that I literally depend upon for my livelihood.
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Sorry for the repost but the forum software messed up when I tried to edit to correct Kevin's name to Lynam.
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Jerry S'alur

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Andrew Rodney must be an Adobe employee. I have never seen anyone defend the company so much.....
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Jerry S'alur

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Andrew Rodney must be an Adobe employee. I have never seen anyone defend the company so much.....
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Andrew Rodney

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Another assumption; no.
“Untested assumptions and lazy habits of thought can be shown up, once put in a spotlight of a different hue.“
-Julian Baggini
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Jerry S'alur

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It appears that our Andrew loves to use quotations to justify his rather nasty demeanor against fellow forum members.
It's a pity there is no block or ignore feature so we don't have to read comments that provide zero value to any such topic.............zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Really despise the new ACR. Do not change stuff that is working fine for years Ad....

Really despise the new ACR. Do not change stuff that is working fine for years Adobe !

If any programmer that makes changes to software, making it more of a struggle to work with, with more unnecessary clicks, thinking he/she provides users with an upgrade, please get them back to school!  Adobe, we did not ask for this 'improvement'. Because it is not, it is a setback. This has nothing to do with 'getting used to it'. It is just really crap UI.

Please get the older UI back, so much better as it makes my workflow more efficient. That is all that counts. Listen to your customers and do not come up with changes without -at least- test it with professional customers (!) A dissatified customer.
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Dave Grainger are you saying that Adobe is giving us the middle finger or you are giving us the middle finger?

Let me put it in basic math terms for you Dave to explain what the software engineers have done to the GUI:

The previous GUI flowed as simple as 1+1=2. The new UX has become 1+3-11+17-8=2

375 million years from now this will be the reason scientist pinpoint when Adobe went extinct.
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Fred: Please  read my comment again. I was telling you that Change WILL happen, and those that learn how to adapt do better, those that just sulk, do not.
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Dave Grainger: "those that learn to adapt do better" -- that goes for companies marketing their product to consumers as well... There are plenty of other sources to turn to, many that indeed adapt to the needs of their customers. Those that do not will get that raised finger that you so helpfully injected into this thread.
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Alan: I certainly agree that Adobe must fix this current update mess and I am sure that they are burning the midnight oil to do so. Features changes are a different story...
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I agree that changes will be made Dave, but part of the reason that we progress is that we do not tend to adapt to a new flawed system just because it's new. We either move away from it or continue as we are. Just because something has changed, it doesn't mean that it's better or that we should just adapt. 
My workflow has adapted over a number of years, and now, it's pretty much as economical as it can be. This change completely undermined that workflow so I have reverted to the original. If this hadn't been possible I'd have moved elsewhere. 
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled select the interface for camera raw.

please give the old camera raw version. 
how I would like LR This would use LR.
make options so that I can choose the old / new interface.
new is a tragedy. why did Adobe ruin it?



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I absolutely agree with this statement from above:
~~~~~~~~ My workflow has adapted over a number of years, and now, it's pretty much as economical as it can be. This change completely undermined that workflow so I have reverted to the original.
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... and still, there has been NO MEANINGFUL RESPONSE FROM ADOBE about the kickback on ACR 12.3, here or anywhere else that I can find. Just hired-guns and gurus towing the corporate line with occasional rollback instructions posted by 'official representatives' on forums like this one. 
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Billy Ben: Since you have only been on this forum for approximately sixty days and posted only two comments, I suggest that you read a little further. The last retort of a person who does not have either the lexicon nor the cognitive abilities to debate is often insult.

"Education is the process of casting false pearls before real swine." Irwin Edman, PhD et al
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Are you Andrew Rodney, Dave?
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Jerry S'alur

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Well said Billy Ben. They are both also protected species here too. Probably paid to 'defend' the almighty adobe king....
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Jerry S'alur

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It appears that our Andrew loves to use quotations to justify his rather nasty demeanor against fellow forum members.
It's a pity there is no block or ignore feature so we don't have to read comments that provide zero value to any such topic.
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Easy to spot the Real ones, Dr Edman, by what they post...
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Official Response

Thank you for continuing to provide valuable feedback on the recent UI changes in Adobe Camera Raw 12.3. For some customers these changes have disrupted existing workflows, particularly for in-process projects. To mitigate these issues we have offered a roll back to version 12.2.1 so that you can continue your current projects under the old UI.

Adobe updated the Camera Raw user interface for several reasons. The new design supports commonly-requested features, such as a horizontal filmstrip, a Crop tool consistent with the Photoshop and Lightroom crop models, and the ability to see multiple edit panels simultaneously. The new design is also intended to accommodate several new image editing features that we have in the works.

At this time, Adobe is not planning to revert the UI to the 12.2.1 state nor are there plans to offer both interfaces as an option in the future. That said, we are determined to fix bugs and improve workflows within the new user interface. Please continue to provide feedback on bugs (items not working as designed) and feature requests (changing items from their as designed behavior to a new behavior). Each individual item warrants its own new thread where we can hone the request with your information and commentary and others can provide pinpoint feedback.

In a forum like this it is often easy to lose sight of the self-selecting bias that can result making it appear as if 'everyone in the world’ is complaining. Remember, those for whom the UI has caused little or no difficulty have little incentive to appear and post here.

Lastly, it is most important to respect others opinions, behave civilly and stay focused on providing quality feedback.

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