Camera Raw 11.4: Crop Behaviour when syncing

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In the latest version of Camera Raw 11.4 when selecting sync and choosing 'check all', the sync from a portrait oriented image is synced to a landscape image cropping it, even when no crop was actually adjusted on the original. Then if you want to undo that as a group you cannot. You have to go to each one and then set to original crop or lose the adjustments settings by cancelling out of camera raw. 

My muscle memory of selecting 'check all' when syncing tells me that this is new as I have never experienced this before when syncing and including crop when none was set.

Surely if you haven't selected a specific crop and then sync, it should not place a landscape crop over a portrait image and vice versa! And even if it did, surely we should be able to select multiple images and then set crop to original which we cannot..

This is a seriously backwards step in my opinion. 

Thoughts?
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Cannot sync no crop or set original crop in v11.4 therefore no way to remove crop without doing it one by one
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I agree that this new behavior is not very well thought out. What you could do if you notice this problem is ‘undo’ your sync, and then sync again without the crop checked. 
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What you could do is reset the crop on the selected image, and then change it again ever so slightly. That could be synced, so it ‘almost resets’ the crop on all the images that were affected.
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This is only a partial workaround. You'd need to do it twice as you'd need to to all the landscape ones and then all the portrait ones because of what I mention in the original post. It crops absolutely and doesn't care if it's portrait or landscape! :(
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Completely different behaviour to previous iterations when no crop present
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I have exact same problem with ACR 11.4. Crop tool has huge bug when you work multiple images with vertical and horizontal mixed and sync them same time :( You can not cancel crop :( I'm using Photoshop CC 20.0.4.
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Exactly
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I did take a better look at the problem and it's easier to solve than you suggest. This is what I did: I selected a number of images in Camera Raw, some portrait and some landscape. The main selected image was a landscape image. I synced the settings, including the crop (even though I did not crop any images). Indeed, all images were now cropped in landscape format, also the portrait images. This is intentional, by the way. I don't agree with that decision, but it's not a bug.

The way to reset this is not that difficult. Select all the portrait images. Click and hold on the crop tool, so the fly-out menu appears. Select 'Reset Crop' in that menu. All the cropped portrait images will be reset.
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What's makes you think this is intentional? Why would a sync from a portrait be applied absolute to a landscape image? What about that makes sense?
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I was told by the responsible engineer that this was intentional and not a bug.
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“That assumes I want to go through and work out which ones of the bunch I've synced are portrait and landscape.. all takes extra time.”

Yes, it all takes time and I have said repeatedly that I disagree with this decision. The best way to save time is not to hit ‘sync’ without checking what it actually is that you are going to sync.
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Well I often sync all for small batches knowing it won't sync things I haven't changed! and not missing things I have as it's a pain go in and select individual items and easier to do select all when you used to know you were safe. This makes changes to files even if no crop change was made so counter- intuitive in my opinion. What would I know, I'm just an end user, not an engineer. ;)

I know you are saying you disagree but I don't see why this change was made when noone was asking for it? :)
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I don’t see that either.