Camera Raw: Camera Matching Profiles for Canon Poweshot G7X Mark III Are Missing

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I am missing  in photoshop elements 2020 a camara profiles for my Canon Powershot G7X Mark III
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From inside PSE 2020 go to Help> Update and install the latest app updates.
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No update available, I think, i have the latest version:
Adobe Photoshop Elements Version: 18.0 (20200120.m.139570)  x64, Camera Raw 12.0.0.321.
I tried to update CameraRaw to 12.2. but it seems, Elements don't support this version. After going trought  update process, Elements shows still CameraRaw 12.0. and in Program ordner there is only Camera Profil for G7X Mark II, not Mark III

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The Canon G7X MKIII is listed as being supported in Camera Raw 11.4 and later. Are you shooting raw files with .CR3 extension or JPG files? Only raw files have Adobe Raw and Camera Matching profiles.

https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/kb/camera-raw-plug-supported-cameras.html
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After further investigation it appears PSE 2020 currently only supports Camera Raw v12.0, which has no Camera Matching profiles. Only the Adobe Standard and Adobe Raw variants are available. A future update should include ACR 12.2, which has the Canon G7X MKIII Camera Matching profiles.

https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/kb/camera-raw-compatible-applications.html

EDIT: I just checked PS 21.1.1 with ACR 12.2 and LR 9.2, which also uses ACR 12.2. There are no Camera Matching profiles in either of these installations. Adobe may have decided not to offer Camera Matching profiles or has placed creating them at a very low priority. I have the Canon G9X MKII and it has six camera matching profiles that emulate the in-camera picture style settings. I'm going to change the title to 'Camera Matching' to better define what's needed.
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G7X Mark III release was 08/2019. I found also there is no camera Matching profile for Canon EOS RP, released 03/2019. It seems, Adobbe needs minimum 1 Year to create actual Camera Profiles.
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Canon changed something with .CR3 files and so far Adobe has created camera matching profiles for only 1 camera model that uses .cr3 RAW files (EOS R?). Search this forum for CR3 to find more info.

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I found here explainations from Adobe from 9/2019 about problems with CR3 and that they need time. Is there a way to try myself how matching profiles from another Canon models fits to my G7X Mark III?
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I forgot you can also use the DNG Profile Editor to do this by selecting a different Base profile such as the EOS R. See link below. I just tried it with the EOS R Camera Standard v2 profile and the colors are badly shifted. I doubt the dcpTool edit will work any better and perhaps worse! This is the issue Adobe is facing so no simple copy-over solution.

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic/using-camera-profiles-from-a-different-model/td-p/1...

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I tried dcpTool with an EOS R and a G7XmarkII profile. After editing camera name and compiling to dcp I could import they as zip file with the CameraRaw profile import funktion. But colors are not fitting like in your pictures about.
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I played around with the DNG Profile Editor to see if I could emulate Canon's Digital Photo Professional (DPP) Camera Standard rendering and was not too successful.

What I did find is that LR/ACR is not applying Lens Profile Vignetting correction with the 'Built-in' lens profile. In addition the built-in lens profile distortion correction shows some uncorrected barrel distortion, but only at the top of the image. The DPP edited TIF also displays the same barrel distortion, so it's probably a "manufacturing tolerances" issue. If you click on the 'i' icon it states "distortion and chromatic aberration correction" has been applied automatically with no reference to Vignetting correction. I needed to apply Manual Vignetting Lens Corrections Amount +60 and Midpoint 25 to correct the below test CR3 file. The DPP output file was perfect with its 100% Peripheral Illumination setting.

Interestingly, my Canon PowerShot G9X MKII CR2 file's 'i' icon also states "distortion and chromatic aberration correction" has been applied automatically with no reference to Vignetting correction. However, I downloaded the same test image file below and vignetting and distortion correction is perfect with just the built-in lens profile inside LR. 
If you can duplicate these built-in lens profile issues using your camera I suggest creating a separate 'Problem' report.

https://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/canon-g7x-iii/G7X3hSLI00125NR0.CR3.HTM

https://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/canon-g9x-ii/G9X2hVFAI00125.CR2.HTM


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I am using Photoshop Elemennts. Lens profiles are not supportet there, only manual correction.
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All cameras that use built-in lens profiles have lens corrections applied automatically, including in Photoshop Elements.