Lightroom Classic: Buttons to Obtain Sample Files for 9.2 RAW Defaults do not work

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On the page https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom-classic/help/raw-defaults.html#iso-dependent-presets-examples the buttons to get the sample files do not work. They generate an error 404 - page not found
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It is a live link for me, Joel. I can see it in Chrome and Safari.

Spoke too soon. I will report it - thanks!
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Wow. I tried Chrome and IE and both generated the 404. Saw your comment and thought Uh-Oh what's going on! Glad I am not crazy!!!
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Should be fixed now Joel. Refresh your browser if it doesn't work. 
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All set! Thanks
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So, I downloaded the samples, tried them, made a few new ones for my camera bodies, and have a silly question. I have been using a preset I created and marked for use on Import for every file. I see my new presets in my regular develop Presets panel now and wonder how this is going to work. Will my RAW defaults set up in preferences override my other preset listed in the Import Dialog "Apply during Import" panel for RAW files? Should I disable the preset for Import? Should I make my old preset (not ISO dependent) as the "default" preset in the preferences? 

Sorry but I think the documentation is lacking in exactly how this should be implemented. 
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As before, Import dialog preset overrides custom defaults (that's to say it only overrides the adjustments that were checked during the import preset's creation).

FWIW, I'd suggest grouping your "defaults" presets in a preset group and hiding them once you've set the defaults, then you won't accidentally change or delete them.
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Victoria, I appreciate your comments but I am fully aware how it works until the new addition of RAW defaults in version 9.2. Now, we have two locations (RAW defaults in Preferences and All Presets in Develop and optionally Import) and it would be nice to understand how they intend for these to stand side by side.
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I have just completed a somewhat thorough test of how this works. I have three different RAW default files for three different camera bodies set up in Prefs. In the top section under "Master", I have the preset I used to use for all files.

First, I removed the preset for "Apply During Import"

When I import RAW files, everything gets set correctly for the three camera bodies. This works as expected.

Next, I imported a group of images in RAW from these cameras along with a few JPG files from my cell phone. This time, everything gets set correctly for the three camera bodies but nothing at all is applied to the JPG files. The preset in "Master" on Prefs is not used.

Next, I put the old preset I used to use back into the "Apply During Import" and again imported a group of images in RAW from these cameras along with a few JPG files from my cell phone. This time, everything gets set to the old "Apply During Import" preset and ignores the RAW presets.

So, it seems that when I have both types of files, I need to run separate imports and remember to turn the "Apply During Import" preset on for cell images and off for RAW images.

Seems to me, this does not work in a way that is conducive to hasterning my workflow. I love the ISO dependent abilities. My suggestion to how this should work:

One Way: As I have a preset for "Master" and then 3 RAW setting for 3 camera bodies, when Importing, the RAW presets should be applied to RAW images from the 3 cameras and the preset in "Master" should be applied to anything not RAW from any camera, listed below or not. In addition, somewhere it needs to tell users that setting a develop preset in "Apply During Import" will override and RAW defaults!

Another Way: As I have a preset for "Master" and then 3 RAW setting for 3 camera bodies, when Importing, the RAW presets should be applied to RAW images from the 3 cameras and the preset in  "Apply During Import" should be applied to anything from any camera not listed below in Prefs.

The way it is now is not only confusing but upsets my workflow of Importing.

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The defaults are for raw files, as JPEGs are already edited by the camera. Do you usually apply the same edits to raw and JPEG photos?