Bridge: "Date File Modified" entry does not update if I update a Canon CR2 RAW file that had previously been edited (CS5.1 4.1.0.54)

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I believe that I have found a bug in Bridge CS5 running on Windows XP SP3. The problem is that in Bridge CS5, the "Date File Modified" entry does not update if I update a Canon CR2 RAW file that had previously been edited. The same applies for DNG files and possibly other file types, but I have not checked that yet. It does not matter if the previous edit was done while running CS3 or CS5. I decided to check out Bridge CS3 by updating a DNG file that had previously been edited and found that it worked properly and updated the "Date File Modified" entry.

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Actually, it sounds like you may be encountering a bug in Bridge CS3.

It is not possible to edit a camera raw file (i.e. CR2) directly. When you make edits within the Camera Raw plug-in dialog box, those edits are saved to a sidecar XMP file which stores those settings. Bridge then reads the XMP file and applies the settings to the thumbnail so that you see the settings applied to the file. But the raw file is completely unmodified. Thus its "Date File Modified" should never change.

I tested this in Bridge CS3 on my side but could not reproduce. After editing a raw file in Camera Raw, the "Date File Modified" did not change (as expected).

What version of Bridge are you using (2.1.1.9?)? What version of Camera Raw (4.6?)? What model of camera?

But I am also curious about your working here. What do you mean by "updating" a file that was previously "edited"? Perhaps I am missing something...
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I think that my description of the issue has been misunderstood. The reply seems to indicate that Brian believe the problem is with CS3, but the problem lies with CS5. The CS3 suite works as expected and I was just comparing the unexpected results of CS5 with CS3 as a sanity check. See my further explanation in the post below. I am wondering if this is a CS5 issue rather than being a Bridge issue since I believe that Bridge only displays the file information, but does not create it.
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Whatever the cause, the problem has not been resolved since I need to see the date of the last edit of a file and currently it is not being updated.
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Please reread my problem -- the error is occurring in CS5, not in CS3. I said that I compared the results to what CS3 did and CS3 is working the way that I would expect. I am well aware that raw files are not directly edited -- the edit that I am referring to obviously means the changes which are stored in XMP files, but since metadata is being read from the XMP, I would presume that changes should be transparent as though the raw file itself was being edited..Since upgrading to CS5, I have been revising a number of images to take advantage of improved features such as sharpening, NR, better shadow adjustment without ugly edge artifacts, and lens profiles. By the way, I have the same issue in CS5 regardless of the file type -- JPG, TIF, INDD, etc.if opening a CS5 application from at least Bridge. I primarily use Photoshop and InDesign while using Bridge to navigate through things. For most file types such as INDD, this is not a huge issue since I save changes with a new incremental name so that old data is not overwritten.

By "previously edited", I mean that the file had been edited in Camera Raw at least once previously, either with CS3 or CS5 and now I am making further changes using CS5. Occasionally, I will process a JPG or TIFF in Camera Raw and as mentioned above the same problem occurs. One thing that I have not checked out yet is whether the file modified date gets updated if I open Camera Raw from Photoshop rather than Bridge.

Perhaps nobody else even looks at "Date File Modified" or perhaps it is just my computer. If so, I am beginning to suspect a javascript error.

I have the latest versions of CS3 files for ACR (4.6.0.30) and Bridge (2.1.1.9) as well as for CS5. The behavior of ACR and Bridge have never changed as a result of updating, looking all the way back to 2007 when I got CS3.

Not that it matters in the least, the cameras that I process raw images for include my Canon XTi, Canon 7D, Nikon D90, and Olympus E300. I guess that I should have mentioned that earlier. Primarily I use my Canon 7D. Before upgrading to CS5, I converted raw files to dng, but since that was so time consuming, I have all but quit doing it. Also, FWIW, all of my cameras have the latest firmware upgrades.
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I just checked out opening a CR2 file using Photoshop CS5 that had been edited this morning. Photoshop opened and then it opened the file in ACR. After making a few minor tweaks in ACR, I clicked "Done" and checked file info in Bridge. The time was not updated Did a Refresh and still the same result. Opened Windows Explorer and saw the same thing that Bridge showed. Maybe it is not Bridge, but any Adobe CS5 application.
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No further response? I replied to the questions for further information.
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I tested in both Br-CS3 and Br-CS5 using canon .CR2 files, I did not reproduce your problem. The "Date File Modified" does not change when I edit .CR2 files in both Br-CS3 and Br-CS5, and The "Date File Modified" does update when I edit .DNG files ( which are saved from .CR2 files ) both in Br-CS3 and Br-CS5.

I am not sure I correctly understand your problem, if not, please put your clear steps here like the following sample,

1. Using Br CSx browse to 7D .CR2 files.
2. open in ACR, do some change, save, and close ACR
3. check "Date File Modified" in metadata panel.
4. Result...

We may need a test file from you which can be used to reproduce your problem, please send one to lbaichao@adobe.com.

BTW, it seems that camera raw 4.6.0.30 in BR-CS3 does not support canon 7D .CR2 file.
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I'm having the same problem. I started editing images in CS4 Raw then upgraded to CS5 Raw but the the metada data still shows the date the images were taken not the updated date. The raw image in Bridge shows that it has been modified by the icon above the image but when I open the image in Raw I don't see the changes. Never had this problem before in CS4. Can anyone help?

Thanks,
Rochell