Bridge: Display transparent images without the current white background.

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I would like to can browse all transparent images as they are and not with a white background. The more important the image shape, the more disturbing the current background.

Thanks, Michael
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Robert Krinzinger

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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Bridge can't draw transparency - why?.

In Adobe Bridge it would be useful to show transparent graphics as transparent (maybe with layer grid like in photoshop)(for example with png-files with a transparent layer).
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I love that this 10 year old Thread is being populated by the same request over and over.  It's to the point where Moderators know exactly where to put the request! 

Maybe the Moderators will start putting in the request for us too?
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NANCY MCCLURE

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Exactly! It's getting beyond ridiculous.
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Chris Cox

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The Bridge team has heard the request, but has not had time to get to it yet.
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Bryn Forbes

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Thanks for letting us know we've been heard, Chris! 
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Marius Bauer

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Is there a new version of bridge to be expected anytime in the future anyway? All other programs get constant feature updates, but bridge seems to be passed by...
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Chris Cox

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Bridge 6.2 was a compatibility and bug fix update (much bigger than the previous few updates which focused on major bugs only).  There will be future Bridge updates with new features. That's all I can say.
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Brandon Little

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I get it. It takes time. But five years? That's kind of crazy. I've given up and don't use Bridge.
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Bryn Forbes

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Please don't hammer the messenger, we don't want to discourage Adobe people posting here. Probably part of the reason there is less focus on updates to bridge is because people are using it less such as yourself
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Brandon Little

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I know I should just let that slide, Bryn. I know I should.

But five years and a statement that I've given up hardly constitutes hammering. As a paying customer, my feedback should be taken seriously - and I'm sure that it is. Contributing in groups like this is a value to Adobe as much as us.

So, yes. I'm glad to hear from them, but I have to meet comments on a 5-year-old thread that say "we're working on it" with less than effervescent enthusiasm.

But, thanks for the update Adobe! It actually is appreciated. A fix for the PNG glitch and speed improvements would put this program back on my radar for sure.
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Bryn Forbes

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Sorry didn't mean to say you were "hammering", just could see lots of people jumping in to say why hasn't it been done yet, when we've already said it above, and Chris clearly has said we've been heard. This is the first adobe comment I've seen on about 20 threads that I follow with similar feelings, so I feel it's important to air on the side of encourage adobe to communicate with us
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Brandon Little

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Yup. The truth about this kind of issue with Bridge is fairly simple. They've got a limited number of devs who are killing themselves trying to get major releases out the door. Some guys in our office were talking about working 'til midnight several times this past week on a release so I imagine it's similar over at Adobe...if not worse.

Truth is, Bridge is a back burner type product and this issue is lower down on the list. I hope they fix it. That would be great. But they've got a zillion things going and might not ever get to it. If they get that on the roadmap, I'd love to hear it. But if it's either Bridge or PhotoShop updates? That's a no brainer.
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@Bryn and Brandon,
I agree with both your sentiments... I'm just glad we finally have some recognition.

@Brandon, 
With regard to Bridge being a back burner type product, I would have to disagree.  At least from a Ecosystem point of view. 

Granted, each product [PS, Ill, DW, AP, AE...etc.] can stand alone, but to truly tie this SUITE together, "Bridge" is the only application that does this.  This makes adobe product powerful. 


@Chris,
Thanks for hearing us and passing it on. Happy to hear that they are working on something for Bridge still.
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@Bryn and Brandon,
I agree with both your sentiments... I'm just glad we finally have some recognition.

@Brandon, 
With regard to Bridge being a back burner type product, I would have to disagree.  At least from a Ecosystem point of view. 

Granted, each product [PS, Ill, DW, AP, AE...etc.] can stand alone, but to truly tie this SUITE together, "Bridge" is the only application that does this.  This makes adobe product powerful. 


@Chris,
Thanks for hearing us and passing it on. Happy to hear that they are working on something for Bridge still.
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Brandon Little

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@ChrisP, Yes, I see how it could be and remember its announcement as a central program. I've never found it as handy as just using the built-in OS file explorers. I'm sure it could be more useful and maybe I'll circle back with it sometime.
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I rely on Bridge (list view) to show me pixel dimensions and color model (RGB, CMYK, etc). I can even sort by pixel dimensions. I haven't seen those in OS file explorers (Mac or Win).

Hey, developers: How about if we at least had a Yes/No column in the list view for transparency on PNGs and GIFs?
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A quick fix would be to make the background universally off white (e.g. r =250 g=250 b=250 ). 99% of the problematic images are surely plain white icons being impossible to see against white.
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How's it coming on this feature? This would make a big difference in my work.
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Hi Seth. Maybe pop back in another 5 years (this was originally posted 5 years ago) to check, but be prepared for disappointment.
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I believe Adobe is busy in 5 years time adding a shortcut command for importing an image into Photoshop...
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Matthew Burton McFaul

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As this has not been addressed in years I went looking for an alternative - only to find it has the same issue: ACDSee. Apparently no way to set how transparency in PNG's is displayed and the default colour is...white.
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For Mac OS to use the program Lyn (www.lynapp.com)
The preferences set "Display image with alpha channel"
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> The preferences set "Display image with alpha channel">

I wish I could see transparency in Bridge enough to go look at this, but it doesn't support stacks and won't preview other formats that Adobe software uses. Only image formats. I think we need to vote early and often, except they won't let us vote more than once.<G>
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Here is an example of why this is important - I use pngs for digital scrapbooking and can't see about 10% of the files - I have no idea what those 2 big square white things are until I open them... I would like to see this in LR as well. 
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It's bothered me for the decade or so I've been using PNG files. But there is a workaround I've been using for almost as long. It's not convenient, but it means I no longer open file after file wondering what's in it. I created a simple action that creates a JPEG file from the PNG and a layer filled with the foreground color. I gave the action a modal stop for where to save it and a keyboard shortcut to invoke it. If you save it with the same name, just as a JPEG instead of PNG, it will land in the folder beside the PNG so long as the folder is sorted by filename.

The reason I suggest this workaround to you (it's no solution, I agree) is Bridge has so much work to do to catch up, and I doubt very much that they've been given a Photoshop-sized team to do it with. There's performance, first and foremost, then stability for all its features—we need to be able to preview our asset files (we can see .abr files in the Finder but not Bridge—what's with that?), we need Output options to rival LR since Bridge is for the whole of Adobe software, not just Photoshop, and on and on. If you use Stacks, as I do, you know how flimsy they are, but no one else even has them, at least not that I can find.

They can approach all this in any order that makes sense to them, and possibly making PNG files that are white show up against gray, or a user-defined color, whatever, will turn out to be the work of a single person on their afternoon break. But . . . until then.


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I would like to be able to change the background color for transparent images for PNG's, PDF's, PSD's, EPS's and TIF's in Bridge. When an image is white with transparent background, it is not viewable in Bridge since there is a forced white background with no preference to change it.
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> I would like to be able to change the background color for transparent images for PNG's, PDF's, PSD's, EPS's and TIF's in Bridge.>

I hope you voted. Maybe someday Bridge will get around to a better way to display transparency. Simply giving us the checkerboard background would be enough to view  the white contents of any file format. Until then, you have to come up with workarounds—at least file formats that support layers can have a color background. So long as you stick with an indicator color, a file naming convention, or metadata to remind you that the file contains transparency, you should be okay.
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Still looking for this feature.  It's like the main thing about Bridge that holds it back.  In AE, you can simply click a tiny button and instantly see a transparency grid.  Should be the same thing for Bridge previews!
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[sarcasm font} I see the Bridge team has burned gallons of midnight oil trying to figure out this "core functionality" issue.

How old is this effin' thread and how many people have been screeching about this?

I'm not sure how many more years this will go on before the customers realize that they (Adobe) don't freakin' really care. When years into the problem, the "Sr. Computer Scientist at Adobe" can only unenthusiastically comment "they know about it", and still later it still hasn't been addressed (yet cheesy 3rd-party apps can do it), then it's pretty clear they don't consider it something worthwhile of their attention.

Yes, sour grapes. I've watched bug reports like this get glossed over for years, only to have Adobe reps (repeatedly) say in forums like this that we users are too dumb to understand the complexities of programming etc etc. and how hard it is boo hoo. OK, fine. 

But hey, let's look on the bright side: Adobe is making record profits ($5.85 billion in 2016), so who cares if the program does what the users need, right?
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This is ridiculous!! this is a MUST in this kind of software.
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Bump! Still looking for this feature!
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Is there anyone who thinks it would be a bad idea to add transparency preview support for PNG files? What's the holdup? Refusal to address long standing bugs like this is very frustrating to your customers who care enough about your product to tell you what they want. Would it help if we say please?
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Let's see they answer anything on dedicated reguests forum they unlocked recently (create topic).

https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/why-do-you-have-uservoice-forums
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This feature is under consideration for an upcoming release. The User Voice forum was an experiment by the Bridge team and wasn't meant to be public.
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Actually I meant Adobe Bridge Requests Forum that you are linked to from uservoice website. It's where lately some moderator took off 'read only' status, so now we can at least create new topics. Is that forum right place to post requests too, so like on this one? I am aksing as like I say 2 weeks ago we still couldn't do anything on that forum like only read posted content (however old topics are still locked for replying).
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Pete, you may have noticed this original question was posted SEVEN years ago, so I'm pretty sure saying "please" will just make them laugh harder.

LOL at "feature request". Core functionality is far from a feature.
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Hi All,

Adobe Bridge team is working on providing Transparency support. In the first go Adobe Bridge will provide transparency for PNG and SVG imange format.

Thanks,
Avinash
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What is source of this news? Are you working for Adobe or you joined prerelease program?
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I am an employee.
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Oh now i see - you just updated your status (next to user name). I am glad someone from Br team finally showed their interest, however I don't understand why it took so many years (comparing for ex. to replies of Photoshop employees). Forgive my doubts, but it is hard to believe you just come and act like users will be taken for serious from now on.

If I may propose something, then better than focusing on requests, it would be much better to fix some bugs in first instance...

Regarding my shock I see any Bridge employee presence here behaving like you guys take care of Bridge stuff please explain what happened. Is it related to work on another release, or else we can expect some updates every now and then?

How would you relate to some topics on this forum they don't have any response yet from Adobe, but are still active for many years, like this one:

(please at least take a look at content of all another posts - you will understand what I mean in no time - no offense, but do you think that's normal?)

https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/extendscript_ui_not_drawing_correctly_in_brid...
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I have a project right now with about 50,000 tifs, and I have to find which do not have the transparency setting enabled, so I can update those files. If we could change the background color, or get a column that says transparency status, that woudl be so helpful.
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Hi All, 

We have released a new update of Adobe Bridge (CC 2018) on 16 July 2018. The new version build number is 8.1.0.383. This version is available to install via Adobe Creative Cloud application.

This Bridge update contains support for SVG and PNG files, with transparency grid. Please also check the "Libraries" workspace after installing new version of Bridge CC.

You may need to update the Creative Cloud application and restart your computer to see the updated installer.

Thanks,
Deepak Gupta
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Thank you for the update. Can we ask why this was not done for all transparent formats. Would be great to have this for .psd, .tif .pdf.

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Wow this topic is 7 years old. They implemented finally transparency for some formats, but what I know from other theard they started just 3 months ago. Why it couldn't be done much time earlier if meantime I didn't notice Bridge team worked on something else?

I hope we don't have to wait another 7 years it supported rest of formats you mentioned, and to be honest that should be part of Bridge now together with png. At least personally I never use .png but .psd and .tif, so new implementation is for me useless. We even don't know if it's planned :(
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Yeah, I don't think Bridge is exactly a top priority. A 7-year-long delay for a basic function is mind blowing.
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how to make back ground picture in white interface of Photoshop?
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I was having an issue with white icons displaying with the transparency grid so I couldn't tell what the icon was. Not sure if this is the same problem everyone else has been talking about but it seemed related. Anyway, I turned off the transparency grid in the Thumbnails preferences and I can see the icons just fine on the dark Bridge theme's background. Hope this helps some one with the same issue.
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Yes, thank you for posting. It seems in the meantime, Adobe have added a transparency grid and the option to turn it off for a pale grey background. Previously the only background it had was white. Solved!
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> Anyway, I turned off the transparency grid in the Thumbnails preferences and I can see the icons just fine on the dark Bridge theme's background.

You don't actually have to go that far. In the icon bar if the window is open wide enough, you can see a two-triangle icon. Click on that and at the bottom you'll see Show Transparency Grid. If you want to show it, check it. If you don't want to, uncheck it. Best of both worlds. You can turn it on and off depending upon your images without having to go into Preferences.

Unfortunately unlike PS, you don't get to control the brightness and contrast of the transparency grid itself.

Now if they'll only extend transparency to ALL formats that support transparency!
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Thanks for the tip! I hadn't seen that feature.
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You're welcome. Adding it to the Preview quality menu made sense, but if you don't have to change quality, you're not likely to "discover" that feature.