Lightroom: Borderless printing isn't borderless

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Since the last upgrade of LightroomCC I can't make borderless on my Epson P600. The Page setup is for US Letter (Borderless, Auto Expand); the color management is set to SC-P600 Series Premium Luster; Print Settings are Basic, No color management. The display shows a borderless print but the actual prints have a .12 inch white border on all sides and the equivalent parts of the photo are cut off, that is, they would be there if not for the borders.
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Does 'Layout' in the Print Panel show borders?


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Jack Nilles

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Layout shows 'None' under Border.
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Robert Frost

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Have you tried the cure-all - delete your prefs file?

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Jack Nilles

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No I haven't. Where is it on a Mac so I can make a copy of it before I delete it?
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A Preference File will survive a Lightroom uninstall/reinstall. Sometimes weird behavior is corrected/cured by resetting the preferences. 

Reset Procedure:

1. Close Lightroom.
2. Hold down [Alt/Opt]+[Shift] while restarting Lightroom. 
3. Overwrite the Preferences when prompted by the dialog.
4. Close Lightroom.
5. Restart Lightroom.

Does the behavior continue after resetting the preferences?

If that doesn't work, you might try creating a new preset from scratch as your preset may be bad.
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No joy after the reset and restart. The 0.12 borders persist. I guess I'll try creating a new preset.
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Weirder still, I changed the page attributes and cell size to 8.75x11.25 inches in order to expand the size of the print, kept the 0.00 margins and got an 8.5x11 inch landscape print with slightly larger left and white borders, about the same borders top and bottom. Is the printer the culprit here instead of Lightroom?
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Another guess - have you printed this size of paper with a borderless image before on this printer? I ask this because printers will only print certain sizes borderless. Does your printer say it will print that size borderless (in its manual).

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I have printed borderless images of the same size before on this printer; that's what is frustrating. I've tweaked everything I can find on both the the printer and Lightroom and both on my iMac and glacial Powerbook Pro. Same result. I thought it might be the fact that the iMac works via WiFi with the Powerbook that is connected to the printer via USB. But the iMac and the Powerbook have the same Lightroom settings and both are working with an external HD and identical files. There was a period of a few weeks that I didn't use this printer. Could it be that it just doesn't work well in July? ;-)
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Just to check, I sent a photo to Photoshop, via Lightroom->Edit in Photoshop, and printed it from Photoshop. Eureka! It came out borderless! Same printer. So what to I have to do to Lightroom to get it to behave? Give up and print everything in Photoshop?
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Create a new Print preset with all the relevant parameters in the printer pages and in LR print panel, and give it a different name to your previous one. Does using the new preset solve the problem?

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Yes, that did it. The key was to make sure that the borderless option was included in the Paper Handling section of the Print Settings window, not just in the other sections. Thanks for the advice and your patience.
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This brings me to the basic problem: Lightroom's poor User Interface. To make borderless prints you have to do the following (at least for prints on Epson printers):

1. Under Page Setup -> Page Attributes -> Paper Size: you must select 'US Letter (Borderless, Auto Expand)'
2. Under Print Settings dial up Paper Handling; Check 'Scale to fit paper size' and; under Destination Paper Size Select the same as in step 1: US Letter (Borderless, Auto Expand).

If you don't do both steps, and particularly if you don't do Step 2 you can end up with narrow white borders and, possibly heartburn. Why Adobe doesn't either eliminate Step 1 or automatically link it to step 2 I don't know. The need for duplication is both unproductive and frustrating. I had overlooked Step 2, thinking that Step 1 would take care of it, and spent hours of my time and of those who tried to help me, as chronicled above. Thanks to them but no thanks to Adobe interface designers.
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I have wasted soooo much ink and paper trying to figure out how to print borderless without the printer expanding my image. Thank you so much for this! It did the trick!!!