Photoshop: Better Preset Organization (sub-folders, tag, search)

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I'd love a better way to organize brushes, shapes, and styles. Perhaps a way to tag them, then search or sort by tag.
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I would like to see separate taps inside Photoshop for my various brushes. Would be much easier to handle than when I have 350 different brushes in one window. Just like the Brush loads in Adobe Illustrator.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Seperate tabs for Brushes..
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yes, please, add folders to brush presets
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I would like a total overhaul of the presets and pallets, specifically the Properties, Actions, Brushes and Styles. I want folders, search fields, ability to leave notes, and color coding.
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I have a suggestion regarding brushes. Brushes should be a organized better in a collection for specific project needs. This is especially important for artists working in a production environment. It should be organized by project, type ( trees, clouds, rocks, etc). Would be great to color label the brushes or add project icons. Brushes should be easily pulled into favorites selection. Favorites are brushes that are being used all the time and should be easily accessible in the interface. Corel Painter does something similar where you can drag the brush into a special folder or area on the interface. Brushes should be easily organized by deleting and adding too a collection. Currently brushes can only be deleted ONE brush at a time. This is time consuming and you should be able to hold down "shift" or edit by selecting multiply brushes to delete with one click. Do you think features to improve the brushes menu will be worked on in the near future?

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Brushes.
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You can access favorites by loading the preset file via the menus.
You can delete, move, save, etc. multiple selected presets in the preset manager.
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This is not the same. He is asking for a visual ability to sort and organize brushes and/or tools within the panel. The preset manager does not have that functionality and is external. If you are unclear about the concept, ask so we can explain it more, rather than provide an incorrect answer. The Brush or Tool presets panels do not have the ability to create sub-folders or sort brushes/tools. This would be extremely valuable.
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There are multiple requests in there, and some indicate that he may not know about the menus or the preset manager - I just want to make sure he know the functionality that already exists, then hear from him whether that is sufficient or not.
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I was making brushes today... and I realize by default I tend to put some brush presets on the brushes. I'd like a triangle or a separate tab in order to set the presets as I'm making the brushes. This includes scattering, spacing, etc. What you get in the panel.

Help me not create duplicates for the users I try to cater to.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Better organization for your palettes......


Why don't you guys add the ability to organize the gradient, brushes, shapes in photoshop? You end up with a hundred brushes that all look the same - instead they should be grouped: "grunge brushes", "light effects", "textures", etc....wouldn't that be so much easier? The same logic can be applied elsewhere. This just seems like a no-brainer to me and would make so many of the palettes easier to manage and use.

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You can already do most of that by organizing your brushes into files by type of brush, then loading just the files you need.
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I guess, but then you are loading and unloading, replacing, appending all the time. Seems like a long way to go to organize your tools.
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Loading and replacing from the existing menu... no worse than switching the menu in your example.
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@Chris Cox That's more clicks and more problems. Shouldn't you know more about UX than that? The whole point is to make it easier. (Jakob Nielsen's UX website...)

Besides, the way that Painter set up their palate would solve both issues which is much more UX friendly in either case.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Photoshop: better organizing of the action-palette.


Hello!

I have some (hopefully simple) ideas/suggestions for improvement of the actions palette in Photoshop. I’m using Photoshop CS5, so I don’t know if these issues already are taken care of in the latest version. In that case, happy joy! And please excuse my bad english...

Please add:

- The possibility to use folders or sets (+ show/hide, i.e open/close folder/set) in button-mode.

- The possibility to change the color of the actions for a whole set.

- The possibility to use a custom color.

- Nested folders.

- Perhaps a search-box to quickly find actions nested in some closed folder or stuffed away way down at the bottom of the palette.

- Multiple-selection of actions (in normal mode), so you can change the color of a bunch of actions at the same time.

- Make it possible to save/backup all folders/sets in the actions palette.

I feel that these improvements is very much needed. The actions palette is a pain in the a** to organize right now. You have to double-click each action to assign it a color, and you can’t hide sets in button-mode that you don’t wan’t to use at the moment (this is only possible in normal mode, but folders/sets could be able to be used in button-mode as well).

Button-mode is the fastest way to use the actions, but if you have a great number of actions, the palette will very quick be a complete mess.

Thanks in advance, and best regards!
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Brush Presets : organizing them in groups.


In Photoshop, I would like to see brush presets with the option to organize them into groups/folders with labels. I have saved a variety of different brush presets (some with unique textures, some with unique applications). However, when I load a plethora of them, it's very hard to tell where a certain brush is located.

In other words, if Photoshop were to organized the brush presets similar to how the Layers Palettes have groups, colored labels, a thumbnail (for brush presets the stroke thumbnail would be the most helpful) and labeling, that feature would be very much appreciated for both myself and fellow digital illustrators.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Feature request(s) for Ps Swatches Panel.


For those of us who have to keep lots of swatches handy, it would be nice to be able to group swatches (by client / brand / project / etc.) so different sub-sets could be expanded and collapsed so we don't have to scroll through so many swatches to find the one we need.

Related, it would be great to be able to rearrange the swatches within the Swatches Panel, not having to dig into Preset Manager. (Really, most of the functionality of Preset Manager ought to be able to be done from the respective Panels anyway.)

Finally, perhaps a method to edit a given swatch, rather than make a new one and delete the old one it would replace.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Sort brush presets by recent?.


Sort brush presets by most recently used would be great.
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I think that grouping into folders, tagging and even colouring brushes is just first step on the list. Seems like Brush Presets should work more like a Bridge, or rather Mini Bridge - directly in PS.

Some brushes have different thumbnail than stroke so for me it's necessary to see BOTH while I'm picking the brush. So having Brush Presets and Brush panels opened at the same time is kinda waste of space.

Brushes in Brush Preset panel vary depends on the app background colour. Maybe small option to change it separately?

Preset manager could work as it is, so I won't make any changes in Brush Preset by mistake. But for general workflow - organizing brushes is like working with Bridge - I do it constantly during the work, and want to rearrange brushes manually.

That's my current view of brushes, takes half of secondary display. I'm working on a 15" MBP with additional display and all brush thumbnails on retina are simply too small to see what I'm going to paint with. Large Thumbnail is not enough.

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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Sub-Group presets.


It would be a nice function to sub-group the lightroom presets, if you have made over 100 presets is not working with this big 1 map construction.

Example

-Model
--Color
--Fashion
--Black&White
---HardPreset
---Softpreset
-Landscape
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Photoshop: Tool Preset Tabs.


Tool Preset Tabs

I think it would be great to be able to create category tabs for brushes/tools you use. Like this tab is for all tree brushes, this tab all for special efx brushes, ect. I realize that we already have a pull down menu for something similar to this but having tabs would be superior. Corel Painter does this actually its very nice.

But how can we take this a step further? Well why not be able to place any tool you want into a tab window as well. Lasso tool preset, shape tool preset, pen tool preset all in a handy little window. The difference is, you can hand pick what you want to be in this window unlike photoshop's current tool presets (if you want different tools in your preset you have to see the entire list).

How can we take it even further? Well why not have the ability to color code your tools as well? Makes it easier at a glance to pick your tools. And give more colors choices than the few they give for layers or choose any color you want.

Heres an alternative idea.

If not tabs, why not groups? Similar to the iphone how you can group specific apps into a folder or how photoshop does this with layers why not use that same idea for your tools? Instead of a long daunting list or icons of tools you can create folders for all your favorite tools, getting rid of the tool bar to add more space on the screen, simplifying the mess and still keeping everything in the same window instead of using tabs.

Thanks for checking out my idea. I really hope you guys listen and consider this. Its a great way to improve the tool presets.
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If anyone is interested, I made a tool for creating popup panels with brush tools of your choice


you can grab it here http://hundredsofsparrows.com/index.p...
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I'm an intensive photoshop user, and any improvement would be already be something...

Just for two cent, it's also a pain to accidentally suppress a brush, with the same shortcut as the colorpicker.

So please do something for it.
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about brushes preset manager:

it would REALLY be helpfull to have slots for categories names (with color like layer groups properties) that we could name the way we want: like "rocks", "paint", "clouds", "vegetation", "water", "patterns"...so on ... just before brushes that falls into those categories...

add a little option that would automatically classify the brushes by their common names as long as there's the same part of how it's named in it
it would be a huge gain of time ...

also a "best" category on top of it all that duplicates "X" (specificated number) of the best brushes that are used most often ...

(another option would also classify in each category the brushes position in term of how many times they are used)

the option to classify brushes horizontally or vertically) (brush preset or richt click ,not preset mananger)

an option to detect duplicate brushes (whatever the size) and compress it by deleting the doubles...

a recycle bin for deleted brushes...

a big view on the selected brush...

here's a quick mockup:
(of course on the brush preset when painting, the category name will have a line for itself and the brushes would be on the bottom or right next to it (depending of the choise to display them : horizontally or vertically)

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Here is my two cents.
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Nicely done, though a few users have asked for things such as search, meta data update, and though Adobe has outright said no, a few users have asked to do away with the preset manager so we can manage the brushes and so on in the brushes panel, make a folder on the fly, rather than have to go up to the edit menu, which would work much like the action panel does now. (i.e. Less clicks to both update the strokes spacing presets at the same time as naming the brush. There is a Brush palette for fiddling with spacing, etc... but you won't be able to manage folders, name, etc on the fly? You have to go to a separate menu? Redundancy is good, but do it right.t remember what they look like. Solution.
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Had a longer post screw it. Didn't know there was an imposed word limit. *cough*
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This would be a GREAT solution ! ADOBE LISTEN AND MAKE THIS A very SOON JDI!
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Good ideas above.

Also, a small thing, if you right click when using your brush, you can change brush size, hardness and the brush itself. It'd be handy if the opacity was included also.

I'm using CS5, so sorry if it's already fixed in a later version.
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Pim, you do work with a Tablet? I ask this as the numbers in the keyboard allow to change the opacity in a very fast way.
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Wow that's handy. I can't believe I didn't try/know that! Thanks a lot, PECourtejoie!
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Groups option for organization of Photoshop brush selection menu.


Hi there, long time user of Photoshop for illustration purposes!
1) I would love love LOVE to have a custom groups option in the brush selection menu, so that I can have my custom brushes loaded in and kept organized by type. It's painful having to scroll through that long list trying to find the right brush all the time, when I know exactly what I need, but not exactly where it is! I want to be able to add/delete said groups and name them just like you would for groups in the Layers pallet.Then when I click the drop-down arrow on that brush group, I would see the standard icon list of the brushes in that collection.

2) I'd like the option to click and drag the order of the brushes in the brush menu, so I can keep the ones I use most on top, without having to go in, delete one by one those I don't need... load in the ones I do in the right order...save out as a custom preset... load the preset back in... etc, etc.

If you created this, it would would be amazeballs.

Thanks!^^
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Request to have more structured and useful brush palette..


Goog day. Maybe it's not very fresh thought but i didn't see any changes in this particular area for years, so there it is.

I am using photoshop as image manipulating, photo processing, design instrument and as a painting software. For painting it has very powerful brush settings, many presets and tuning points, but it's very hard to manipulate with active brush set. It's easy to add brush set from photoshop's or any custom third party set, but after being added those brushes stored as a big unsorted and unmarked pile. I can't see if i already add any brush set and if i am adding set that already been added i'll just get duplicated set of brushes. If i am downloading custom set that is gradually updating with new and new brushes (one of my favorite artists shares his brush set and updates it from time to time) i have to reset all my brushes and recreate the set again just for one or two new brushes — or i have lots of redundant brush duplicates.

I am suggesting to have some usable features for brush palette — maybe grouping added brushes in subsets with ability to edit/delete the whole subset or any brushes in it. Or, if it's impossible for some reason, it'd be good to be able at least to select and delete more than one brush at a time.

Thank you.
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You can already select, delete, save, or reorder more than one brush at a time in the preset manager. That has been available since Photoshop 6.0.
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Thank you, Chris! I knew it should be somewhere =)

Still, better presets organisation would be much much better.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Super efficient brush selection: Favorites, most used, recently used, and folders..


I would like to have the ability to add brushes to favorites and highlight in the menu for quicker access, show my most used brushes at the top of the list, and organize brush groups into folders. I work with a large amount of brushes and every time I need to find a brush it always takes me a couple of minutes, even if I remember where the brush is in the drop down selection menu. Organizing brushes into folders would allow me to save many minutes of looking through the menu. Also, highlighting the brushes I use for each project would be useful so I can go back and use them again without having to look through hundreds of brushes. A section of most used and recently used brushes would be important as well, so that one wouldn't even have to spend time highlighting brushes or organizing brushes, as the group would appear automatically. Even if only one of these topics was implemented into Photoshop, I'm sure it would save a huge amount of time and effort.

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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Add organization feature to brushes..


It would be great to be able to organize, favorite, and group brushes. It would also be nice to save certain setting for specific brushes in a simple and organized way. Also, a better way to view brushes would be nice. It's currently hard to look through brushes - especially when you download additional brushes online.
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The top two votes for Photoshop ideas is organization of presets, if you combine the votes it's 235, votes, taking into consideration overlap, this organization and rethought of brushes goes above most of the Lightroom ideas. Maybe it's time to think about implementation rather than considering it? It's long overdue. We've been asking for it for years now. Presets are a core feature of Photoshop that outdates most of the competitors, but even the competitors have organization while Photoshop does not.

Though, I'm against the whole coloring idea, for work flow, folders and custom folders would be nice in terms of UX, because colors are limited and harder to organize. I'm not against the folders being able to be colored, but purely coloring is not UX friendly.
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I would love the following two features:
1. The ability to organize brushes in folders
2. The ability to search a brush by name

I am a long time user of photoshop and this is dragging me down constantly. I might be using 5 brushes on a daily basis, but then I need a couple others, and it is really uncomfortable having to look for it in my long list of brushes.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Brush and Tool Presets Group.


The idea is pretty simple!

Having the ability to Group your Presets and more importantly Brushes and Tools, but also Swatches (like in Illustrator and InDesign)...

So that, we could organise presets, close or open the Group to have more place...