Photoshop: Better Preset Organization (sub-folders, tag, search)

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I'd love a better way to organize brushes, shapes, and styles. Perhaps a way to tag them, then search or sort by tag.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled In Photoshop CC. Would it be possible to put the brushes in their own folders, so....
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Search Brush Presets.

Searchable brush presets: I have a lot of brush presets (maybe hundreds) and it's hard to scroll through and find the one I want. I would love to see a search bar in the brush preset panel similar to OS X's Spotlight so I can find specific brushes quickly.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Better brush management.

When working with brushes it would be nice to easily select and delete multiple brushes from the brush drop down menu

Also brushes are typically loaded as sets, it would be great to see the name of the set. If it could work similar to the view of layers when you have groups or in this case sets of brushes, and you could expand or collapse groups of brushes.
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I do not understand why, when i'm in brush options menu and i change the brush tip shape - all brush options change as if i have clicked brush preset. I see brush tip option equal to transfer or shape dynamics and i think brush preset shouldnt change everytime i change the tip shape.
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Changing the tip shape doesn't change other options, just the tip shape.
Only choosing a different brush or tool preset would change the other options.

Also, that appears to have nothing to do with this topic (preset management/organization)
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Searchable Swatches and more Photoshop.

Hey guys,

I have a custom swatch list numerically ordered from 1-900 (So I have roughly 900 swatches)

I want to be able to type in the swatch name to locate it, instead of scrolling through all of my swatches.

For example, I have a swatch called STEEL 045
I want to be able to type in Steel or 045 to pull that swatch up.

Does this make sense?

Also,

I am looking for a action or plug in that will automatically swipe a brush stroke across my image.

When the action begins, it prompts me to choose a color

I choose a color by typing the name in.

and it automatically does a brush stroke across my image, with option to do more strokes of different colors.

Thoughts/Feedback?
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Add Collapse function to brushes while right click..

Would be cool if there would be function of collapsing the brushes. like, if u have brushes sorted by names above them, then u will be able to collapse with + and - buttons, brushes which are similar to each other. in such way managing a lot of brushes would be easier.  Sorry for my English. I hope that u understand what i said :))
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Photoshop Brush management is in need of a total redesign..

The Photoshop Brushes system is so antiquated and clunky, it's undynamic and a general pain to use.

I would like to see a new Central Brush Library where all brushes are stored.
From which, various brush sets could be created that dynamically draw from that central library

This would enable the user to easily create brush sets that can be added to or removed from easily and also allow user to easily switch between sets in a much more modern style of design.

This would help eliminate duplicate brushes and the constant adding to or deleting brush sets that stand alone and help more easily use and distribute assets while working in Photoshop.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Better Brush Management.

With the abundance of Brush and Tool presets available now for Photoshop, we need a more robust way to organize and manage them. Two specific things I would like to see implemented. First, i would like to have a folder system to help organize my Tools. This would be helpful if we want to group them by style of brush, or collect a set of tools specific to a project. Secondly, I would like to be able to organize my Tools directly from the Tools palette, and not have to go into the Preset Manager. I should be able to click+drag to sort the list, create new folders and move Tools into them. Photoshop teases us because it seems that you can do a click+drag operation because the tile sticks to the cursor, but it's a big fakeout. I literally have hundreds of Tools that I have made myself, purchased and downloaded. Dealing with this huge assortment is a constant headache. (I suppose this suggestion applies not just to Tools and Brushes, but all the presets, but it is with tools that I find it most lacking).
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This thread is 5 years old. Now we have update 2015.5
Still no brush organization -  Adobe is deaf on their ears.
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Brushes are a mess. The system is so antiquated and awful,  Please Adobe. Build a new BRUSH preset and management engine from the ground up. It would be incredibly useful.
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Everyone, I am working on a plugin for this!  It is very close to being ready to show off, and I'll be looking for beta testers.  Sit tight!  I'll update within the next few weeks about getting a beta test going.  I can't wait to get this into your hands.
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Sounds awesome. I'd like to be considered as a beta tester if you need one. 
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Michael Foran

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Derrick, does your plugin work with Tool presets or only Brush presets? 
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Derrick Barth

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Hey Michael, right now the plugin is only working with Brushes but I have definitely not ruled out expanding it to other preset types as well.

Brushes is "phase one", and then I'll be looking to see if it makes sense to expand it to things like Tool presets, gradients, etc.
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Michael Foran

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Great, thanks! I would love to request adding 'Tools' to a v.2 of the plugin. Thanks!
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Yeah me too!, My main brush set is in the tools panel :D
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Let's petition Anastasiy for this! The guy who made MagicPicker for PS can make Brush organization a candy!
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Derrick Barth

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An animated teaser this time =)
More info coming soon, guys!  Will post more gifs of the various features, and a preview video.

In this gif you can see how the folders behave the way you're used to with layer groups, eg. double clicking the name to change it, collapsing folders, and reorganizing them.  The colors and layout are not final, still being polished.

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Also, interested in the beta, keep me posted.
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Hey Derrick. Any news on this maybe? :) It would work perfectly fine with this UI for the beta version I think. 
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Derrick Barth

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Hey there!  Been making tons of progress... I'm excited to say that I got Tool Presets working over the weekend!

I appreciate your patience... the UI is 95% there and I certainly don't mind having you guys test it while it's still in its rough stages (what you don't see in my gifs are all my test buttons, sliders, etc which look rather messy), just a bit of cleanup and it'll be ready I think.  What I'm spending a lot of time on is overall stability, memory, and usability of the tool.

I also need to do other things like set up a website, mailing list, and register my company!  I'll try to have the mailing list setup ASAP so you guys can sign up for that and get updates.  And then I'm still hoping to get the beta going this month!
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Fantastic Derrick! I was happy for brush organization but all my brushes are Tools for the wider options that are saved. Very excited you were able to add them to your plugin. Please sign me up to be a Beta tester.
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You sir, are my hero!
Really looking forward using and testing this awesome feature.
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Hey guys, I decided to write about a panel I'm making too. 
It's different from what Derrick is doing and more about keeping specific tools in sight (brush presets and tool presets) and workflow. Here's a preview video and the panel will be ready in two weeks or so.

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That's pretty cool also! Me wants that too!
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Derrick Barth

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An update for you guys... thank you for your patience.  Believe me, I'm working every free hour I have on this thing.  Beta is coming soon =)

Tool Presets support is IN!  Load your .tpl files in addition to your .abr's.  Organize them into folders.  Enjoy life!

I wonder if "BrushBox" is still a good name to use since it can also do Tool Presets, not just brushes... what do you guys think?

Here's a new gif showing Thumbnail view and List view.  Double-click names to rename just like you're used to.  Also you can change your icon sizes.  The buttons at the bottom are temporary, please excuse them!  Oh and you can see the filter there at the top, just like how the Layers one works.

What would YOUR favorite layout be?  Large thumbnails?  Small list with names?  Anything else you can think of that I should add?

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Looks great! I would personally mostly use "Small list with names" mode.
Can't wait to try it out!! ;)
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This looks pretty great. To bad it cant replace the right click button popup of the crappy and laggy brush palette Adobe has to offer? it would have to be docked to the side panel right? If it could be replaced the a scale bar for the brush would be nice where you can type in a numeric value as well. 
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This looks great Derreck! Great work.  I do also agree with Derrick too, would love to see a brush size slider as well.  But seriously this is looking great. What are your plans with the plugin now? I forget if you say it can do color code or not.
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Thanks Corey!  The final feature list is still being considered... color coding is definitely possible, and I had it working at one point.  Right now my main concern is how to expose it to the user without complicating things.

Would you want to be able to tint the background of your presets, or the foreground (the brush itself) as well? 
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Hey Derrick! I suppose the background rather than the brush itself would be fine. Maybe even the folder too. Are you thinking of doing it like a pop up menu like how it works on layers pallete? Maybe you shift select your brushes and click color icon at the bottom perhaps.
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Good question... the way I had it working before is you could set a color value on the folder and then all brushes in that folder would get the color.  You'd set the color with a color wheel that would pop up.
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That works too
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Derrick Barth

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Thank you so much for your patience, my friends.  BrushBox is nearly finished, with loads of improvements added over the last couple months.  Stay tuned for an official release date!

In the meantime, here's an updated look at the UI, showing the slider for changing the icon size, featuring tool presets by Kyle Webster:
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This is wonderful. I suggest you set up a little web site or at least a Facebook page for this. I am definitely interested in it as soon as it is available!
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Thank you for the great reception, guys.  I'll be setting up a page and mailing list soon and will post the details here!
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This is a great solution for brushes, but I believe this doesn't get Adobe off the hook since the request was for a preset manager, which includes a whole lot more. I believe that takes greater integration since Corel Painter, etc has a way to figure out which brushes were used for the project or last, etc. Also memory for what colors were used last beyond 2.
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Hi Rachel, thank you for the comment. I agree, there's still a long way to go, but hopefully BrushBox will be a good start. The good thing is that this is something I can add features to over time to meet user demand. For example, I initially was only supporting brushes but I added tool preset support because there was a lot of demand for it.
Believe it or not, features like remembering brushes for specific documents is actually something I could add. Probably not for the initial release, but as an update.
So don't give up hope, we can make BrushBox the tool you need it to be!
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I have created a gumroad account where the plugin will be sold so you guys can start following my progress!  Just enter your email here and you'll be up to date on the plugin and it's pending (mid-November-ish) release!

https://gumroad.com/derrickbarth/follow
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Guys have you seen this? Last week Anastasiy team (MagicPicker creators) finally released Brush panel for Photoshop CC2015 and CS6 with brush folders organization, drag'n'drop, custom files support etc......

I was a beta tester and I'm no longer under NDA so I can finally post it here. Petitioning developers does work! Everything I was asking for is there already and all the bugs are removed with my help lol

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I just bought it. It seems cool from the feature list but cant seem to load a lot of brushes.  I have a file of maybe 150 plus brushes from over the years.
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Sometimes it takes it a while to load big files... I tried it with 80MB file with 200 brushes (not mine lol) and it took it like 1.5 minutes to load.  After that it was very fast.
They promised to improve loading time in the next versions.
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Congratulations to Anastasiy on the launch!
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Derrick Barth

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My friends, I have a mailing list you can sign up for to stay up to date on BrushBox!  Go here to my gumroad page and simply enter your email: https://gumroad.com/derrickbarth/follow

I'll also be calling for a few more beta testers so please sign up!  I want your tool to be as robust and professional as possible before the mid-November-ish release!

While we're at it, I wanted to share another gif of BrushBox loading a huge abr file (180 MB) containing over 1,000 brushes which it handles with ease:


Not to mention, BrushBox only uses about 100-200 MB of RAM (so no "out of memory" errors or crashes here!) and only 10-20 MB of hard drive space.

Here are some other high level features I think you guys will appreciate:
  • 100 % compatibility with every ABR and TPL file ever made, going all the way back to 1996!
  • ...Even the odd-ball brushes types that aren't used by many.  16bit? 32bit? you got it... BrushBox will load them
  • 1-for-1 matches your  Preset Manager.  If you see it in Preset Manager, you see it in BrushBox.  If you delete/rename it in Preset Manager, you delete/rename it in BrushBox... and the reverse is true too!
  • Easy installation, easy way to fix things if something goes amiss.  Zero head scratching required.
  • Looking at about a $15 price tag though that is not final, and there may be some preorder initiatives for the early birds, so sign up at my link!
BrushBox will be the true preset manager replacement you've been waiting for, and your wait is soon coming to an end!  
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Looking great Derrick and I am so eager to try it out! The Gumroad.com page doesn't seem to be working though. 
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looks great!

i am working with 400mb+ abr s and tpl , and i really wouldnt mind if it takes a few seconds the first time it loads, if it is then instant all the moments after that.
i could beta-stress-test it too if you want. davidnatura @ gmx . net
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400mb+ files are no problem.

Just now I did a test using a 415 MB tpl file containing 324 presets.  It took 3 seconds to load.  RAM usage is 116 MB, hard drive space was 2 MB.

Keep in mind I'm running a desktop machine with an i5 processor, but I get very similar results on my Macbook Air.

I'll be in touch, thank you for volunteering!
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Derrick Barth

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Looks like gumroad was doing some maintenance today, sorry guys... please sign up for the mailing list!  I've started reaching out for beta testers to help me finish strong!

https://gumroad.com/derrickbarth/follow
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beta test interested too! vylewind@yahoo.com
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Hey everyone,
here's my take on Photoshop brush and tool presets panel.
I took a slightly different approach and actually I think Derrick's and mine panels will work great together.
I focused less on displaying all tool and brush presets you currently have and more on highly customised sets of specific tools you know and use. Like a surgeons laying out their instruments: everything is in the specific place and has the specific size and label. And a preview :D

Here's the teaser: 



More detailes in my post at Polycount: http://polycount.com/discussion/179622/brusherator-for-photoshop-cc-a-panel-with-brushes-and-more
Cheers,
Sergey.
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Derrick Barth

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Just wanted everyone to know BrushBox is now up for pre-order, with the full release coming December 14th!
Pre-order now to save 15%!

https://gum.co/brushbox
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Michael Foran

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Ordered!
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Derrick Barth

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BrushBox 1.1 has just been released!  Massive updates with tons of UI improvements and new features.

One of which is "Preset Options"... which allows you to override a regular brush's size, associate a paint color with it, and choose a tool it should load when you select it.  It's sort of like making them into tool presets!

https://gum.co/brushbox

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Man its been 6 years and they still havent added subfolders to the tool preset menu. Seems like such a simple solution given what the program can do. I have drawing tools, texture tools and painting tools that are all in a mish mash main folder. What I wouldnt give to be able to hide the ones i'm not using while the other ones are open without loading a whole different set as I flip back and forth between drawing and painting tools quite often.   http://www.mememaker.net/static/images/memes/4590406.jpg
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I hear you, Dan.

You might want to give my plugin BrushBox a try:
https://gum.co/brushbox

or Sergey's plugin Brusherator:
https://gum.co/brusherator
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled PHOTOSHOP: Search function for Brushes?.

Does Photoshop have a search function for all the brushes I have? as more brushes are added to Photoshop, it's a nightmare to find the brushes I want.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Search Bar for Brush Panel.

The new organization update for Brush Panel in 2018 is great, love it. Now I find myself keeping more and more brushes in my set, making it harder and harder to find the brush I want. If there was a search bar it would make workflow smoother.