Lightroom: Ability to batch process Photo Merge (HDR and panorama)

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Now that we have HDR inside Lightroom, with virtually no user input, the next step is surely a batch facility for a folder full of bracketed images.
Please!!!!
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I now embark on manually merging (SHIFT+ALT+M) another 800 images after months of massive HDR photoshoots and no update. ACR/Lightroom adding such brilliant HDR has changed my photography for the better and I tried Photomatrix and agree with everyone here -- Adobe nailed it. And like others, it's costing me a huge amount of time.
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+1 for the batch, every other app does it. I use EnfuseGUI or manually blend in PS but love the quality and ease of LR HDR. It makes the final edits so much easier because it gets everything right for the most part.
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+1 indeed. Let us autostack by capture time, then process all (selected ) stacks!
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I don't know if it's just me ... but the recent Camera RAW update has sped up the one-by-one merge time drastically. Anyone else experienced this?
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when was the Camera RAW updated.
By the way, Photomatix Pro 5 recently put a new Bata update on their web sit, It's a significant improvement.
MUST TRY, quality in Fusion Natural is much better for real estate jobs
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I may be a little late to the (this) party, but I too would love to see batch HDR processing in LR so I can actually spend some time with the family rather than merging sets of 5 bracketed real estate shots one at a time.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled LIGHTROOM - HDR merging queue.

Whenever I am batch generating 5+ HDR images at a time, lightroom and the entire PC system in general becomes sluggish and slower than a snail.

The problem is that Lightroom is trying to generate ALL the HDR images at the same time.

What I would love to see is an option to choose the amount of HDR images lightroom is generating at the same time. The rest would queue up and start once another was finished. 3 at a time would be good start.

(For those who dont know, you can use Ctrl+Shift+H to merge to HDR without that popup window.)

PS: Lightroom tends to CRASH when doing more than 7+ HDR merges. Which adds value to my idea of a queue....
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+1 for LR HDR batch processing

REALLY NEED IT !
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Batch process for Lightroom HDR.

Hi!
We are missing a batch processor for generating HDR in Lightroom. Can you please add this in future update? We produce so many images daily so we can not use Lightroom until the batch function is added. This is an absolute must to have since your rival programs have it!
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As a partial workaround to speed up your workflow, put each set of photos to be merged into a stack, and collapse the stack. Select the top photo of the stack and do Shift + Ctrl + H to start the merge with the previous settings. You can then start additional merges the same way, running at the same time. (Normally, when you apply a LR command to the top photo of a collapsed stack, it applies to just the top photo. But Photo > Photo Merge is an exception.)

This isn't as useful as what many are asking for in this thread, but it has helped many to speed their work.
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Yeah, this works great!! I do this every day, but when I do 5+ at the same time the entire computer becomes a slug :)

Just adding a queue function would be perfect. So only 2-3 are generated at a time.
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We still need a real batch function. Shift + Ctrl + H is only good enough for a few photos...
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Agreed, just as I wrote.
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Couldn't agree more. The HDR is so good, the lack of batch is infuriating. Just responding to keep this thread busy. The more we grumble, the more noticeable we are, right?
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It would be nice if stacks were treated like this throughout LR and not just with the HDR option. 
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The HDR is so good I've been using it to reduce the number of "second-run" photos in my library (photos that might be useful later, but weren't picked and processed in the first pass). What I've been doing is selecting the three photos of the stack, pressing Shift-Ctrl-H, and then X to delete the three photos. A while later, the HDR version appears in their place, but I've already moved on to the next set.

Then I can later make another pass looking at only the HDR version, and decide whether to keep or delete. The HDR just gives me a better idea of the photos potential than looking at any of the three exposures. It also means I don't have to decide which exposure is best...which is time consuming too in LR.

But now I can only do 6-7 stacks at a time, before LR bogs down. A batch feature, or queuing them rather than trying to do all the processing at once, would be wonderful. (A batch version differs from queing in that I could just select a bunch of stacks and tell it to process them!
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Lightroom: Batch Processing Multiple Selected Stacks Containing Bracketed Images ....

Feature Request: Ability to select multiple stacks that contain bracketed images — then to batch process the stacks to create HDR images overnight. Currently — doing this by hand is time consuming and inefficient. Thank you. —Erik
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Please add a batch process to HDR Merge!
Pretty please?
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Another +1 million for the batch HDR. Also +1 for comment above about people at adobe actually using their software. The LR hdr's do look great but it takes far too long!

Why are we subscribing to this software? Please fix it for us
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PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

At least Adobe could acknowledge that this is an issue and that it is or is not under urgent consideration.

Just leaving us all hanging is very bad customer care
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@Victoria: The inability to queue anything (photo merge, export) in an app that is designed for bulk photo processing is not an upcoming feature - it's a bug that needs fixing. The functionality is all there, they just need to add a "limit parallel ops to _" option.
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I'm not here to argue over whether it's a bug or a feature. Either way, they rarely pre-announce.

As far as Adobe goes, they define a bug as something not working the way it was designed to work. They didn't design merge to use a queuing facility, at least in its early incarnations, so they'd call it a feature/enhancement.

At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter what we call it - I wholeheartedly agree it would be a useful addition.
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Sorry if my post sounded argumentative, that's the way one gets when sitting in front of LR waiting for the current photo merge to end (and the computer to un-freeze).

I just don't get it why they don't just add this basic feature, but work on LR for Apple Watch.  A queue can't that confusing ... but on the other hand, we got an impression of what the LR team thinks of their users when they added the "import dialog of hell" :->
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I understand the frustration Marsu. FWIW, there are completely different teams working on iOS/Android/Web/Sync functionality, so any unexpected mobile app development doesn't impact on desktop development.
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Thanks for the insight into the teams and workloads, that's a relief.

On the upside, I have to say they've done a good job with photo merge and keep improving it. It's only a bit of "wasn't invented here", but with the boundary warp and rawish output I find myself using it more than expected. And waiting a *lot* more than expected to queue the next one :-p
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I also require batch processing... Either built in, either thanks to the SDK and a plugin, but we definitely should have a way to do that. This is quite limited right now.
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I'v just tried the Shift key thing and yes the preview does not show up and I save about 1/3 the time. BUT if you are confident with the registration of your exposures and you uncheck "auto align" then it takes about 1/2 the time than if you go through the preview route! - I tested this with 5 frames off a Nikon d800 (36mp frames) on a MacBook Pro (late 2011)

Hope this helps.
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I've been looking at examples of batch HDR functions using ExtendScript... it seems that some people have utilized other methods in Photoshop that produce different results.

I respect what this guy has done, however, if his script utilized Camera RAW's HDR merge, it would be what we all are asking Adobe to do:

https://forums.adobe.com/thread/12776...

I looked through ExtendScript documentation, and it seems there are ways to program automation with Camera RAW, but whether or not the HDR Merge function is accessible to scripting is undocumented and thus a mystery.

http://wwwimages.adobe.com/content/da...

This guy seemed to be working with scripting and Camera RAW ... basically automated bracketing of a single photo using ACR's exposure controls...

https://forums.adobe.com/thread/62323...

It just seems that the solution to this should be within reach, but that Adobe failed to create a way to access the batch feature ... and if they had allowed that, I'm sure that someone at Adobe who was intimately familiar with ExtendScript would have been able to program a batch HDR merge script in his sleep.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Lightroom: Ability to batch process panoramas.

an option to render a panorama in complete auto mode without preview would be nice.

preferably by having the option to queue them up and have set simple presets, like 10% boundary wrap, spherical.

click path would be
– select photos
– right click – merge panorama – queue spherical, 10% boundary
– repeat
– one finished: file – start queue processing

presets click path:
- select photos
- right click - merge panorama - edit rendering presets
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled LIGHTROOM - A WORKING HDR FUNCTION.

I know this has been suggested already, but it would be great to have:

A WORKING HDR FUNCTION

With simple features like batch processing and a better use of system resources, come on, this is 6.4 and we still have to select bracket after bracket, LR becomes unresponsive when you try to do more than 12-16 processes at the same time, activity monitory shows that it makes little use of my 128 Gigs of ram or 12 available cores, neither does it make any use of the GPU when available. This should be addressed by now!

Thanks in advance Adobe
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Put me down for requesting a batch capability for LR HDR function. This is pretty much useless for me without batch capability. Until this gets implemented, I am stuck using Photomatix -- a decent enough tool, but not a great one. Help us out, Adobe.
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Hi.

This is script for quasi batch HDR merging in Lr. It is written for AutoHotKey.

1. Install AutoHotKey
2. Save script in text file using .ahk extension
3. Edit script accordingly to number of images in HDR sets, number of HDR sets, power of your computer
4. Load script (run it as you start any application)
4. Go to image folder in Lightroom and make sure first photo is selected
5. Press SHIFT+H
6. Don't touch your computer till end of process - go for coffe, for a walk, sleep etc.
7. Be happier. :)

How to edit script?
This one is for 6 sets 3 photos each. If sets have 4 images change each {right}{right} ocurrence with {right}{right}{right}.

sleep, 35000 - this command is for waiting till Lr end merging previous set. If you have faster computer, you can change 35000 (miliseconds) for 20000 (miliseconds) for example. Better to check this time in tests and add a couple seconds - Lr slows down when many sets in queue and can stuck.

So this two  lines:

   send, {shift down}{right}{right}{shift up}{shift down}{ctrl down}h{shift up}{ctrl up}{alt down}{right}{alt up}
   sleep, 35000

are for one HDR set.

Just copy this as many as many HDR sets you have.

I suppose more sophisticated script can be written with pop-up parameters dialog box. Does someone want to play with it?

That's all. Have good sleep. ;)

Ps. I count 1$ per saved hour of your life. ;)

---------------------------------------------------script------------------------------------------------
+h::

   send, {shift down}{right}{right}{shift up}{shift down}{ctrl down}h{shift up}{ctrl up}{alt down}{right}{alt up}
   sleep, 35000
   send, {shift down}{right}{right}{shift up}{shift down}{ctrl down}h{shift up}{ctrl up}{alt down}{right}{alt up}
   sleep, 35000
   send, {shift down}{right}{right}{shift up}{shift down}{ctrl down}h{shift up}{ctrl up}{alt down}{right}{alt up}
   sleep, 35000
   send, {shift down}{right}{right}{shift up}{shift down}{ctrl down}h{shift up}{ctrl up}{alt down}{right}{alt up}
   sleep, 35000
   send, {shift down}{right}{right}{shift up}{shift down}{ctrl down}h{shift up}{ctrl up}{alt down}{right}{alt up}
   sleep, 35000
   send, {shift down}{right}{right}{shift up}{shift down}{ctrl down}h{shift up}{ctrl up}{alt down}{right}{alt up}
   sleep, 35000

return
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Autohotkey isn't available on Mac.  There are several equivalents available in the app store, though.
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John, can you recommend any app from the app store? Have you allready tried it?
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I used to use Autohotkey on windows and loved it. I believe there is something called AutoKey for Mac but I have not had the time to try it.
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If you search for "autohotkey on mac", you get a number of suggestions, starting with this thread: http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/153930/autohotkey-equivalent-for-os-x. But I haven't tried any of them.  You can also use Applescript to stuff keystrokes and mouse events, but I've done just enough of that to know it's very painful from Applescript.
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It's working with Keyboard Maestro! Wooohhhuuuhhhh

Pause times depend on computer speed. Such a time saver! This test batch with 40 HDRs went through without any problems.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Lightroom: Queue operations (e.g. HDR merge) when out of RAM.

If I start 15 HDR merges at around the same time, Lightroom uses more memory than my 16gb of RAM, and it ends up taking ~5 minutes. If I start 5 merges, it only takes 20 seconds.

Instead of queueing operations once it gets to capacity, Lightroom is trying to get more virtual memory and the PC ends up thrashing (constantly swapping RAM to disk). This is really slow (about 5 times slower on my machine).

It would be nice if Lightroom was aware of memory usage, or at least let you set a limit for concurrent jobs.
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I have found the magic number for MacBook Pro with 16gb RAM i7 processor, to be about 12 concurrent jobs. Still seems to push through jobs quick enough...
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Auto stacking and batching of Panorama and HDR content would be incredibly useful. I would greatly appreciate the feature!

Adding in the ability to automatically color/flag/rename the resulting batched files would be a welcome addition as well.

Thank you
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^yep!