Lightroom Classic: Automatically syncing new, virtual copies – how to avoid?

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When I make a virtual copy of a synced photo, the virtual copy is automatically synced too. Is there a way to avoid this?

I don't necessarily want the new copy to sync, so I wish I had the choice to sync it or not.
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avpman

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Me too, I'd like to see the original unedited photo for comparison.
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Roelof Moorlag

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You can remove the virtual copy from the synced collection.
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evikne

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Yes, I know, and I can easily use the filter function to find all virtual copies in my All Synced Photographs collection. But some I want to keep for different reasons, so I cannot just delete them all. So I still wish I could avoid that they were synced in the first place, when I have not asked for it.
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The behavior is logical up to a point.

If you're working in a collection and make a virtual copy, that VC gets added to the collection you're working in.  If that collection is set to sync, the VC is synced.  Seems logical.

If you're working in a folder and make a VC, that VC is not added to any collections, regardless of what collections the original may be in.  Seems logical.

If you're working in a folder and make a VC from an image that is a member of a synced collection, the VC is not added to any collections (makes sense), but IS synced and shows up only in All Synced Photographs.  That's the part that I don't get.

If the VC isn't a member of a synced collection, it shouldn't be synced.
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The answer is indeed simple. Don’t make the virtual copy while you are in a synced collection. Make it while you are elsewhere, like in another (non synced) collection or in a folder.
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That was my original thought as well, but it's not quite that simple.

No matter where you create the VC, if the original is synced, the VC is too, even if it's not a member of a synced collection.
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To replicate...

- Working in Folders panel.
- Right click on an image that is already a member of a synced collection.
- Click Create Virtual Copy.
- Virtual copy gets created in the folder (good), does not get added to any collections (good), but does get synced (bad).

Everything is logical except that the vc gets synced.  That's the behavior that doesn't make sense.
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evikne

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Yes. That's exactly what I mean. 
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Johan Elzenga, Champion

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Yes, I can reproduce that. That is definitely a bug.
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Roelof Moorlag

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I can reproduce this also on Lightroom Classic 8.2.1 so apparently it's not a new bug
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Hi,

sometime back Classic started allowing photos to be synced even when they are not present in any synced collection. This can be done by dragging the photos to the "All Synced Photographs" collection. This is evident when a photo is removed from a synced collection. Classic will display a prompt asking whether it needs to be removed from "All synced photographs" as well. 

Due to this whenever a photo is synced it gets added to "All synced photographs" and hence any VC created for any photo will get synced without any explicit action. Adding synced photos to a collection is treated as a separate step and has no association with the photo itself being synced. As Classic is not keeping track of how the photo got synced (compared to earlier where it was always associated with a synced collection) it is not able to differentiate. 

Thanks
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Roelof Moorlag

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I had to remove a few thousands photo’s that where not part of any shared collections (anymore)
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evikne

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So did I :-)
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"any VC created for any photo will get synced without any explicit action."

This should not be! I agree it should be treated as a bug in Lightroom.
I have also been baffled by many images appearing multiple times in the 'Cloud'.
Images (in a synced collection) where I experiment with multiple VCs (in Folder view) should not be syncing these multiples to the Cloud unless I specifically add the VCs to a synced collection.
A simple [Ctrl+'] anywhere and 'pop' another image in the Cloud!
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I can confirm this issue still exists on my Windows 10 version 1809 system with LR 8.3.