Photoshop: Ability to arrange & customize save-as file formats so popular formats are at the top

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Photoshop supports about 20 formats, but I only use 4 or 5 of them. It's bugged me since 5.5 to have to fish for jpeg somewhere in the middle of the list. Can the file formats get arranged by most commonly used? And maybe allow us to remove stuff like targa and large file format that nobody uses.
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Six years later I still get replies on this... it's still somewhere on the back burner, probably between "content-aware selfie warp" and "adobe air bridge music mkv codec explorer filetype manager browser"

Meanwhile, 10,000,000 working people make 50 extra clicks a day because we're still on a windows XP interface :/
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probably between "content-aware selfie warp" and "adobe air bridge music mkv codec explorer filetype manager browser"
lol.
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Seriously... ADOBE!! I don't even know what programs use .DCM .PXR .SCT formats.. Please assign some engineer that's got 1 week to spare, to fix this!

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Yup, it's irritating. TIF is way down at the bottom. PNG is in the middle. JPEG is a little higher up, but so easy to accidentally click on another version of JPEG than wanted. And PSD is right at the top. Pretty awful for the most common formats. I'd think it was a JDI to fix it since they let us hide unwanted menu items—but it may be terribly tricky for all I know and no one  wants to be the one assigned to work on it. <BG>
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OK: EARTH TO ADOBE. I opened this thread 1 year ago and still no response. I have been using Photoshop since it was in beta (our studio tested it before you launched the product). In nearly 25 years of using Photoshop, I have only saved files in 4 formats (jpeg, tiff, psd, png, gif). WHY DO I HAVE TO SCROLL THROUGH ARCHAIC FORMATS every time I save? This is such an obvious and easy improvement. Someone in a previous thread actually wrote a patch to fix this. Its a few lines of code. ALLOW US TO CHOOSE WHICH FORMATS SHOW OR LET US CUSTOM PULLDOWN ORDER SO OUR MOST USED FORMATS APPEAR ON TOP OF PULLDOWN. 

Your tech people contacted me and instead of thanking, said they can't make all the improvements people suggest. So, I guess you focus on making your UI and icons illegible for most people over 40 years old and other "improvements" that make your software increasingly complex and difficult to use. 

FIX IT! 
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Actually I was the one who opened this thread, and it was 7 years ago.

But we're on the same page, this is long overdue for a fix. I'm tired of scrolling past Dicom format or accidentally saving JPEG2000 files. This one fix would save me more time per year than anything else Adobe has thought of in the past decade.

They took the time to make a stupid new document dialogue that is slow and loaded with presets I won't use, but won't make this 15 minute fix for a better save dialogue that everyone uses.
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Right-- you did open this thread!
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Lala, persevere! I reported on a bug SIX YEARS ago, and it was only fixed with the CC 2019 update. Of course now something else I use daily is broken, so  ̄\_(ツ)_/ ̄
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I will never let this go. When I die, they will put on my tombstone
HE DIED MAKING EXTRA CLICKS 
EVERY TIME HE SAVED A FILE
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LOL.  Maybe that will turn this request into a JDI. . . maybe.
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I'm not the one who's sarcastic ;) btw what is JDI?
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From when John Nack ran PS. "Just Do It." They still just do it—several small fixes, upgrades to features that don't require all that much of an engineer's time and isn't too likely to break a lot of things along the way. He made PS users very happy because a lot of little things that bug you to death, but are almost too small to pay serious attention to, got fixed. That's a JDI. Some things we think are JDI's aren't, and it would be helpful if we were told so when our little Idea we think could be resolved tomorrow if anyone bothered, isn't so little.

But I think they still keep lists of these so if they have extra time, engineers can take these on. At least, I've noticed with new releases it pays to look at the what's new on their site, since a bunch of very little things get mentioned — like being able to simply click on the lock icon on a Background layer to convert it to a Layer 0—things like that.
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I just found your other profile: Cristen Gillespie. Why don't you use it anymore?
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Just a matter of curing schizophrenia<G> I finally learned what I was signing in with so stopped being split in two.
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"CompuServe GIF"? Really. Here is how I want my menu to look. 
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Want to see something truly AWFUL. I've recently switched over to Windows after waiting 9 years for Apple to release a real Pro machine... this is what Save As looks like in win10:


Yes, you're seeing that right. The dropdown for Save As scales to the width of the Save window.

Want to see worse? Here's what it looks like behind the dropdown:


I miss osx so much.
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You can resize the window, you know - but that still doesn't get past the original complaint of too much rubbish in the dialog box.
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A constant request to hide some formats for years now, just as constantly ignored.  '-}
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I know i can resize, but for some reason, that's usually the width that my Save As is, so that i can see my Folder Tree, Filename and then the columns for format, size, date, etc.
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How is this not a thing after 7 years of requests? I'm a dev (not a PS dev), and I can tell you, it does NOT take long to customize this even as an indie dev. Why am I paying monthly again...?
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I scripted many things easily in no time they should be part of Photoshop so I agree with you. Moreover I can say they don't do it not because that is complex, but don't want to do it for no reason. If they wanted it would be done few releases ago.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Mr. Photoshop - Can you please make it possible to disable all these outdated Fil....

I know this is not the most pressing thing but over all the years that I have opened the "Save As..." dialog and had to scroll down the long list of ridiculously outdated file formats, I have actually wasted a considerable amount of time on it.

Come on, there is "Compuserve GIF" in the list. COMPUSERVE! That is so last millennium.

It would be a much appreciated feature.

I'm a professional retoucher and still don't even know what half of these were EVER used for. And I am not planning on finding out - ever.

Thanks, Mr. Photoshop
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HI All-- a reminder that someone two years ago wrote a simple script (I think it's in this thread or an older one) that makes this change in Photoshop. If someone can hack it, why can't Adobe friggin' code this in? I just saved a file yet again as JPEG 2000 by accident this morning. I suggest EVERYONE on this thread open a new topic conversation on the site, and maybe if enough people make it an issue they will actually read this thread? This thread is now two years old.

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Two years? LOL. This thread is EIGHT years old and the request goes way, way back beyond that. We've been asking since the last century! Seriously.
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I am still here, after making the thread 8 years ago.

I was a different man then. I weighed 40 pounds less. I was still in my early 30's. I had a different job. One of my best friends moved. I also moved. It feels like I was only recently married and divorced. I've had 3 cats die since then. I had one car get stolen, another totalled, and I've bought a new car. Which now has 80,000 miles on it.

The one constant in my life, the one thing that I can count on to never change, is that Adobe will not fix this f*cking UI problem.
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LOL. Lordy, I don't even want to catalog all the changes since people started asking for this. They did remove Targa, as I recall. That's progress, I guess?
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This is starting to feel like a yearly event where someone posts a new comment in this thread and we complain about how bad Adobe is a bit more. Maybe it will evolve into a formalised meet-up or conference at first with people originally on this thread and later with dissatisfied customers the world over.
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I don't get how it doesn't have more traction after so many years. Looking through the ideas I see stuff like "custom colors for guides" and "saveable grid sizes" and I totally get there are a few people who use those features every day. But literally 100% of photoshop users use the save dialogue.

Are they ALL really ok with saving .png's by clicking off the filename to the filetype dropdown, tapping P, tapping down-down-down-down, clicking back on the filename, typing the name, pressing enter, pressing enter again to confirm the same old save options that they never change?
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Well ... 33 votes seems far from overwhelming support for the request. 

Saving to particular formats can be streamlined with Actions and, considerably better, Scripts as it is. 
Have you looked into those options exhaustively yet? 
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To put that into context, the highest rated idea for PS hast 232 votes, and it is to do with organisation of presets. The second highest rated is 175. So it's not like 33 is a small number. But the reason everyone keeps coming back to this tread is because it's a good illustration of how clunky and out of touch Adobe is. This is indeed not the sort of problem that breaks the app or makes your life miserable, but at the same time, there are just two possibilities:

1. is that they can't change this because of how old the software is and how little control they have over it, in which case, it makes no sense to keep hoping they will ever get better.
2. is that they are simply too out of touch, which leads to a similar conclusion.
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Well, the number is still not quite »up there« with the »most popular« requests. 

And while naturally everybody who supports it (and possibly many, many more Photoshop users) would benefit from an implementation for many other users it is effectively irrelevant. 
Photoshop offers options for customisation and automatisation that make it possible to pretty much circumvent the Save-dialog for saving copies off of the layered files one works on. 
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Sure, this is not one of the big problems with PS, but it's also not as hard to fix as the awful performance even on the latest machines either. And having to write a script (I did do that actually and posted my script here) to circumvent something as simple as saving your files is not a good way to design user friendly software, right?
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Has Adobe exhaustively researched the options for implementing this change?
They can't find time to do it, in 8 years

Why do I need to learn to coding/scripting, when Adobe has people who do it for a living, who can knock it out in 1/100th of the time I could, and fix the problem for everyone, not just one guy?

And let's not act like Adobe strictly prioritizes based on popularity/"me-toos" - many ideas with fewer upvotes than this one have been implemented.

The ability to auto-save was proposed 8 years ago, and only got 23 upvotes. Various "Champions" (including you, Chris), argued about how it was impractical, ineffecient, it should be the user's responsibility, etc.

Less than a year later, it was implemented, it works fine, the handwringing about it was completely overwrought. It was an obvious, common sense change, and they just did it.

Now we are faced with another obvious idea, and it's so frustrating seeing people perversely argue AGAINST it. I guess some people just have that kind of mentality.

Microsoft word has had the ability to set a default save format (along with a logically ordered save-as dropdown) FOR OVER TWENTY YEARS.

https://i.imgur.com/M75eX2i.png
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Methinks Adobe know they have us by the short and curlies with this dumb subscription model, and they really don't give a flying fwhatever about the people who pay their wages. And no good pointing at Chris, he went ages ago.
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Ridiculous comes to mind...  8 yrs and counting, meanwhile they found the time to fucjk up the free transform tool just because they could.
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Your post does not seem to be useful. 

• First off: Adobe and the Photoshop team are not obliged to implement Feature Requests, no matter how popular they are or how long ago they have been made or how well their potential benefits are presented. There are people that have taken note of the request but the decision on the issue may ultimately not be the one you would prefer.  
• Secondly: One can restore the »default-non-proportional-transformation« in Photoshop; see »How do I turn off the new proportional scaling by default behavior while transforming layers« on this page: 
https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/free-transformations-images-shapes-paths.html
• Thirdly: Photoshop does not feature a »Transform Tool«.

While you may call that last one nit-picking, if one does not respect the meaning of words and the use of proper terminology in written communication then what is one even trying to do?


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The above post does not seem to be useful.

Everyone understands that Adobe is under no obligation. But if they provide an open forum for people to push for feature requests, then people will push for feature requests.

You may not like their wording or tone, but telling someone their input isn't useful goes directly against the purpose the forum.

Adobe asked us what we think about proposed feature, and TangCanada is letting them know.

To anyone else who is frustrated by this: Don't hestitate to continue complaining. Very often, the squeaky wheel gets the grease. 

>While you may call that last one nit-picking, if one does not respect the meaning of words and the use of proper terminology in written communication then what is one even trying to do?

To communicate.

Which obviously the user did successfully since you easily understood what they were trying to say. You're correct that you're nitpicking. Usually it isn't worth it to try to score a cheap internet debate point like that. 
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To anyone else who is frustrated by this: Don't hestitate to continue complaining. Very often, the squeaky wheel gets the grease. 
Certainly one should add one’s »Me too«, add a post from time to time, ...
And if a reported, legitimate bug goes unfixed for more than two full versions that is one thing, but a Feature Request not being implemented is quite another. 
So if someone goes calling the failure of a Feature Request to be implemented »ridiculous« they would seem to be implying that Adobe or the Photoshop team transgressed with regard to propriety or obligation or reasonability or ... and that seems unreasonable to me. 
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@christoph pfaffenbichler, nitpicker to the bone.

"• Thirdly: Photoshop does not feature a »Transform Tool«. "

Whats up with you bro?
You and all others who read my post will know exactly what I am referring to.
Get a life. Look at the forest insted of finding issue with one tree.

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Again:
Photoshop’s Free Transformation does not seem to have been » fucjked up«; the default behaviour was changed (apparently in reaction to a longstanding Feature Request) but you should be able to restore the old behaviour. 
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TangCanada, were you able to follow the clear instructions and thus render your complaint about what you called »free transform tool« moot? (edited) 
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Um, yes the "Free Transformation" was fujcked up.  I might agree that it's a minor change to make the default behavior proportional scale, except they didn't do that.  They made it default for everything EXCEPT vector shapes.  So now you have to switch back and forth between two modes of scaling, the old way and the new way if you're scaling text or smart objects or raster objects or vector shapes. 

And if I have to write a script change in a Notepad file, they fucjked things up.

Everyone I know in the business hates this change.  There's dozens of articles complaining about it and telling you how to change it.  I can't imagine anyone hating the ability to favorite file formats, which we've been asking to have for 8 years.

Also no one calls it >>Free Transformation<<, everyone calls it the transform tool.

https://www.breathingcolor.com/blog/photoshop-transform-tool/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBtUpxoVONQ

https://phlearn.com/tutorial/how-to-master-the-transform-tool-in-photoshop/

https://www.wikihow.com/Transform-an-Image-in-Photoshop




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Um, yes the "Free Transformation" was fujcked up.  I might agree that it's a minor change to make the default behavior proportional scale, except they didn't do that.  They made it default for everything EXCEPT vector shapes.  So now you have to switch back and forth between two modes of scaling, the old way and the new way if you're scaling text or smart objects or raster objects or vector shapes. 

And if I have to write a script change in a Notepad file, they fucjked things up.

Everyone I know in the business hates this change.  There's dozens of articles complaining about it and telling you how to change it.  I can't imagine anyone hating the ability to favorite file formats, which we've been asking to have for 8 years.

Also no one calls it >>Free Transformation<<, everyone calls it the transform tool.

https://www.breathingcolor.com/blog/photoshop-transform-tool/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBtUpxoVONQ

https://phlearn.com/tutorial/how-to-master-the-transform-tool-in-photoshop/

https://www.wikihow.com/Transform-an-Image-in-Photoshop




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I just want to add my support for this feature.  Which I can't believe has been running for 8 years now.

Like 99% of Photoshop users I use 2-3 formats on a given day.  I don't need a list of 22 different formats.  And I hate that my most used formats are in the middle of the list.  So many other programs have addressed this issue.  But Adobe can't somehow.

Too busy breaking the Transform Tool.
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Too busy breaking the Transform Tool.
It’s not broken and the old non-proportional default transformation behaviour can be restored so what is your statement supposed to achieve? 
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I find it almost funny that this suggestion was posted over 8 years ago and still I occasionally save as Pixar or Scitex. Please allow us to sort this list!
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Save as file format choices as condensed picklist.

I would like the ability to save image formats I use (or hide the image formats I never use) in Preferences, so when I save a file I am only presented the formats I want. I often save a layered file as a .psd, and then a flattened .tif. They are the top and bottom options and it would certainly speed things up (and make mistakes rare) if the file formats were condensed to just the ones I want.
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I don't understand why Adobe needs thousands of requests to implement the requested change. I work with 50 Photoshop professionals in my dept. ALL OF US want a simplified Save dialog. Most of them don't dig in to request the change.
This seems a no brainer. The cumulative time wasted in this dialog is enormous.
It doesn't mean you have to throw out the old file types – who knows, I might use DCS sometime, and I do have some 24 year old Scitex files, but I don't think I will ever print to an Iris again.
So file types I need regularly:
PSB PSD PNG JPG TIFF
Need sometimes:
GIF RAW
As for the others, I would like a drop down option to select them.
I originally asked this of Adobe 22 years ago for 5 years in a row at MacWorld.
Craig Cheatham
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Cheers... can you get some some of those 50 coworkers to vote for the topic?  

I can't believe only 42 people have voted on this, I guarantee 10,000x that number have, at some point, wished for it.

And yeah, it's a lot of cumulative time wasted. Not all of us use brush smoothing or canvas rotation or whatever, but 100% of photoshop users use the save dialog. 
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This is by no means to derail the feature request. The pragmatic approach is to make an action (or script) to save as to various formats while waiting/hoping for something to come from Photoshop development as a native feature.

As proof of concept, the following action has an invalid save path so is now "generic" and suitable for use on different systems, perhaps used via the actions panel or with an action keyboard shortcut or perhaps referenced in a script with a more flexible keyboard shortcut:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/sfnuboblcd2r9cp/Save%20As.atn?dl=0
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This is truly absurd that you cannot customize this dialog box to leave out the many file types that are outdated and you never use.  It would be so simple to make a few file types as preferred ones at the top of the list and or to eliminate some.   There is so much customization of menu's available in photoshop that to not allow one to change the order or number of file types in this dialog and save you time fishing for  one among all the unused ones is just crazy.   WHY NOT DO THIS.  IT IS SO SIMPLE.  AND SO USEFUL.    PLEASE???
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I browse this thread once in a while to see what Adobe might have done about. They never do anything about it.

As an (ex-)software developer I can say without fear of contradiction that this is really not that hard to implement. I suspect the lack of Adobe action is more of a support issue: if everyone has a different Save As file type list, support will have more stuff to wade through to find a solution to someone's problem. They would be getting lots of cries for help from people who removed a file type and now don't understand why it's gone. Though just allowing the list to be rearranged would alleviate that.

Anyway, if getting this implemented is just a question of how many votes the request gets (as was mentioned in one of the earliest posts), then everyone who reads this should just scroll to the top of this page right now and click the Vote button. As of today, only 44 people have - including me!
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I'm always surprised there aren't more me-too's also, I think people are just unaware of this forum. 45 people voted, but 12,000,000 people have sighed when they accidentally saved a JPEG2000 .jpf file, or pressed "p" to jump to png but forgot it jumps to .PCX.
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I'll see if i can get an official statement about this request.

I agree that it's 100% ridiculous this hasn't been implemented after all these years.
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That would be great.  I'd love to hear a response as to why we have to endure all these used formats when so much else is customizable in the menus. 
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I have also just voted for this feature too - with so many options to save bits as favourites, to drag and drop to re-order lists nowadays why can this not be done with what must be the most used Dialog box in Photoshop - the Save Dialog box! Even if they cannot drop all formats at least thru some AI or ML stack your most used formats to the top of the options, or allow some lever of user cusomisation. ATM there is nothing
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This thread was started 8 years ago, but nothing have changed! But the subject still actual! Please just make a "File types" tab in a settings and let the user select which formats he don't want to use!
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I'll see if i can get an official statement about this request.

I agree that it's 100% ridiculous this hasn't been implemented after all these years."

I'm assuming @Eartho didn't get an official statement (or any other kind of statement, knowing Adobe).

This is beyond ridiculous.

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Photoshop 2020 is released, and still no way to customize the Save As dialog... Maybe the developers were too busy adding brand new exciting Photoshop bugs!