Lightroom CC: Ability to geotag photos

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I'm probably at the low end of the prosumer category when it comes to photography. I've been using Lightroom for a couple of years. I love the multiple platform feature on the new CC, but geotagging images has always been important for me (enough so that onboard GPS is a mandatory feature when I look for a camera). I had been adding locations to older images in what's now CC Classic. 

Are we going to get that ability in the new CC? 

Even more importantly, will the new AI-based search allow us to do things like pull pictures based on location? And, if so, will we be able to do things like define a radius? This was all possible when we had the maps panel, but seems to be challenging now.
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No one can speak of future features, but how about I turn this into a feature request so other people can vote on it too?
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Mike Dunford

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Please do. Same with any of my other posts, if appropriate.
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Christian Fürst

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why should we?? this new lightroom is a pure amateur tool, and all the brilliant features of previous version seem to have gone.
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Mike Dunford

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For someone like me - just starting to move up from amateur - there's huge potential (granted, mostly unrealized) in the new software. I'm not trying to sell images (and won't be for the foreseeable future), and learning the old Lightroom was proving to be a challenge given my limited available time. 
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Hi Mike,

We do have reverse geocoding working in Lr CC. If your photos have GPS coordinates on them, they will get tagged with the location name (city/state/country) when theyreach our servers. You can search for photos by location using the search box or the filter icon to the right of it at the top of the screen. Does that help, or is it the ability to add GPS coordinates in the first place, a la the Map module, that you're missing?
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Hi Julie,

I was thinking in terms of map module-type functionality, particularly when it comes to adding information. 

As far as the search goes, I was playing with it earlier, and I think it could also benefit from more map-module-like functionality. It's fairly restricted by whatever maps it's using, and doesn't have a lot of things (like neighborhoods) available. 

By way of example, I've got a lot of geotagged pictures taken in Europe that I was just using as a test bed for the search. Based on my searches, I'm pretty confident that "Eifel Tower" is not a location. A search on that brings back only two of my (many) pictures of the Tower, and it doesn't bring back several geotagged shots taken looking up from directly under the center of the tower. Similarly, a search for "Old Sarum" (a historic site in Salisubry, UK) brings back only an image which I'd previously keyworded. Searching on Salisbury will return that image, but the city is too large, and too many unrelated images are returned to make that search helpful.

Since I'm painfully early in the laborious process of rating and keywording tens of thousands of images (many taken in multiple trips to the same location), I'd find map module functionality to be very helpful, particularly as an adjunct to the new search, to help locate photos taken near an image found through Sensi's magic. 
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Hi, Julie.

I've been working on an app (ShotSync) that imports photos from a paired camera to Android as easily as possible.

As I move files from the camera to the phone I geotag them in Android's MediaStore (a developer-accessible system database of file metadata). The location is correctly associated with the files according to android's Photos app.

However, the location doesn't show up when I import the file to Lightroom, then export it (even when "Location Info" is set to be shared).

Could you add this to the list of features to be developed?
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>or is it the ability to add GPS coordinates in the first place, a la the Map module, that you're missing?

Yes that is badly missing. Precious few current DSLRs have GPS built in. I generally record a gpx track through Gaia GPS or similar on my phone and auto tag all my images from a hike in Classic all automatically (great feature) or if I don't have a track, drag images onto the map. This is missing in LR CC. Not all images people will want to have in CC come from cell phones.
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I totally agree that this is a needed feature. Ironically, the images that I had geotagged in older versions of LR in the Map module retained their GPS information when I migrated them into Lightroom CC. I just took some pictures, imported them into LR Classic, geotagged them in Classic, and then imported them into LR CC using LR CC's Add Photos feature (based on what I have read, I am keeping the two Lightrooms as separate catalogs and not syncing between them.) Unfortunately, it appears the GPS info got stripped when I added them to the LR CC catalog. I was hoping I could use this as a workaround but I'm guessing that GPS info is kept in the LR Classic database files. It does work if I export them from LR Classic to another location as DNG files then add them to LR CC. That is a lot of pain for a workaround. Please add the ability to geotag photos!
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Jao van de Lagemaat

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Tom,

the trick with this is to first "write metadata to file" from Lightroom Classic before you import the images in Lightroom CC. This way the edits and metadata will be written in the file's xmp metadata file (or section in the file if this is not a raw file) and should get picked up by CC.
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Thanks! I kind of got all wrapped up reinventing the wheel and didn’t think that there might be a feature already in Classic to solve this. I appreciate you taking the time to help me out!
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Yes, I'm not professional photographer so new Lightroom CC is great for me but unfortunately inability to add geolocation keeps me going back to Lightroom Classic now. So I'd really like to see 'add geolocation' added to Lightroom CC. And I hope it will be added also to iOS versions as I mostly like to edit with my iPad Pro.
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Yes keep the iOS and desktop version as near to identical as possible please
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Yes importing of GPX files is essential to me. The old Map module was clunky, but being able to add GPX files on desktop AND iPad would awesome!
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled geotagging.

Manual geotagging is badly missing from new Lightroom CC.
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adding my support to this feature request. 

Specifically:

- ability to geotag
- ability to view geotagged photos on a map (not just one photo at a time as currently)
- ability to search by location
- ability for photos to be separated automatically based upon date and location - e.g. to automatically make a folder named 'holiday in X' - similar to the 'moments' feature in apple photos
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Yes, please let us have the ability to geotag manually with a map module, and import GPX tracklogs!
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Typically for trips I'll have a combination of SLR without GPS and say an iPhone with GPS. The ideally loading mechanism is the direct loading of photo's to lightroom by directly importing into iPad. So no ability to add data prior to loading into lightroom. Required the ability to add the GPS coordinates to the photos without GPS. Ideally would be great to behave like the Map module, however even having a GPS field available in the Information tab would be sufficient to cut and paste coordinates from say google maps. This is critical as it allows the correct population of the location classification fields in Lightroom
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Please, please, please add a method on all platforms for migrating GPS data either from a log at the very least from another photos that does have GPS data. At least then I could take a photo on my iPhone, import it into the library and use that to narrow down the GPS; especially if I'm in a place where an address doesn't really cut it.
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Kelly Spore

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I've noticed when exporting photos from Lightroom that GPS data isn't exported, at least not so that the Photos app on the Mac or iPhone can read them. I'm adding GPS data twice, once when I add the photos to Lightroom CC and then when I export my "keepers" to Photos on the Mac. 
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Tom Hunsinger

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I use the Windows version of Lightroom Classic so I’m not sure this will help or not. When I export my images to jpeg the GPS location info is exported with the images. In my version there is a checkbox in the export dialog box to not export location info. By default, the box is checked. Do you have that option and if so, is it checked? If this is not the problem, I wonder if it is a setting somewhere else in LR. It seems like a file handling setting issue and it’s not always easy to chase down some of the settings that might affect this. Good luck!
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Lightroom CC almost completely lacks preferences. It's very much like a mobile app in that fashion. When you export an image you get just few options, none of them include GPS data. On the computer (in my case a MBP) you have the option to choose JPEG or Original; but no control over the level of compression used with JPEG nor any other file format like HEIF (latest compression technlogy). More importantly no way to choose what MetaData is included or excluded. On an iOS Device, you do have an option when you share (export) the photo to include location information (ironically though you can't see location information on the iOS device at all, so there is no way to know if a photo includes location information. However when you export (share) the image and import into Photos no location information is to be found. So if it's being included it's presumably in a non-standard location. 

Now it should be said I've really enjoyed using Lightroom CC especially the ability to start and stop working on editing a photo on any of my devices or even the web. They have the whole importing and smart previews down really well. I take my photos on my Canon 80D, import into my iPad then migrate them to Lightroom and delete from iCloud. I think cull the photos, develop them and those I like the most get exported out to Photos. Basically I print them out to Photos but keep the original images in LightRoom. I've only been doing this for a short time, but so far it's working. The location information though adds a bit of a wrinkle. Since my camera doesn't include GPS data I have to add. Since Lightroom CC doesn't seem to fully support GPS geotagging (no matter the reason if you aren't supporting it so that an iOs or Mac device can't read the information you aren't fully supporting) I'm finding myself adding Geotags twice. Also doesn't appear that Adobe supports the flagging of photos when exported. I've not tested keywords yet; but stars aren't coming across. It's a little too much like actual printing. 

Moving to Lightroom Classic isn't really what I want to do. You can migrate to Lightroom CC from Classic, but you can't migrate back nor share libraries or have Classic access the cloud library. Heck even Apple made their iPhoto Library and Aperture Library fully compatible with each other before Aperture was ended and iPhoto went away. 
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but you can't migrate back nor share libraries or have Classic access the cloud library
Actually Classic can access the cloud library just fine. It will sync down any stuff you add to CC and you can edit and the edits will sync back up. You can also selectively sync collections or individual images to the cloud from Classic which can't be done from CC. Only problem if you sync up is that classic will only sync up smart previews. Only thing that's not supported in the ecosystem is keyword syncing since Lightroom Classic uses hierarchical keywords which CC doesn't support unfortunately. It does sync up GPS locations by the way so it is a simple thing to do the GPS tagging in Classic and have the GPS coordinates in the cloud too.
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Kelly, I have to apologize! For some reason I thought you were using Classic. I won't even speculate why I did this...it certainly wasn't from what you wrote and is entirely my fault! 

I messed around a bit in CC to see what I come up with. I may have found something that may help you (or I could be totally off track again!). I add my images to CC using my Windows 10 machine and let them sync. When I open an image or folder in CC on my iPad I have that Share icon in the top right corner. I'm guessing that when you exported you selected this and then chose Export Original. When I do this the GPS data and other file info are cleared just like you experienced. If I choose Save to Camera Roll the GPS data (and other file information) stays intact. Oddly, I have not seen the option to exclude the location information on my iPad. When I open the saved file in Photos, I get the location displayed above the image and the map location if I swipe down. When I open the file with ProCamera, it gives me the option to view the exact GPS coordinates. Kelly, does this method work for you? Let me know if you have any questions or if there is any way I can help.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Import of gps data to Lightroom CC.

Whenever the gps data of an original photo is available Lightroom CC should also import these data. At least there should be an option to edit the position information of the photo within LR CC.
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Hello, after almost a year I think this idea got stuck in the middle. You can geotag pictures by entering location name. Great. But what if the Lightroom does not find the place or choose a similar named place somewhere else? Happens to me all the time. So what about simple "point on map" geotagging or at least ability to enter coordinates? That would get us somewhere.