Photoshop: Full version app for Apple iPad Pro

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Now that Apple has a tablet with a stylus it would be great to see a FULL version of Photoshop CS that works on iOS. Please not an express program. Something that professionals can use. If anyone knows if this is in the works, please post. Thank you. Here's the link: http://www.apple.com/ipad-pro/
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AFAIK the iPad Pro still runs iOS, so it won't be able to run a full version of any desktop applications. And while the new device is faster than older iPads, it still lacks a lot of the performance and system features necessary to run a full version of Photoshop or LightRoom.
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We really need to stop making excuses for Adobe folks: https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/phot...

Been a designer for 10 years and can honestly say Affinity's allowed me to break away from my Mac for about 90% of my photoshop work. And this is brand new, so I really can't wait to see what it turns into within the next two years.
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While I can understand that Photoshop would have to be  considerably limited to run on the iPad Pro, I still hope they're working in the back room to deliver an app that has as many features as possible to port to iOS. Certainly, one inclusive app to me would be a whole lot better than the multiplicity of little apps they currently offer. After all, they've been pretty big on mobile computing, so this should be a natural extension for Adobe now that the iPad Pro is pretty powerful in its own right, and likely to keep getting more-so with each upgrade.

My experience with Affinity Photo thus far is quite limited, and I have to upgrade my iPad before I can use their app for the iPad Pro,  but I do see they have enhanced, both in small ways and big, many of the features PS offers, and they are willing to be as much like PS to make the jump comfortable for us as they can possibly legally get away with.

I don't think they yet compete with PS for those of us who do a lot of compositing, website design, video production, illustration, photo art, etc. One undeniable strength of PS is being part of a big suite of interconnected apps, though I hope that doesn't have them resting on their laurels. Nor, having used Affinity several times, do I think their raw developer is as good as CR/LR. They also don't appear to have a very stable and strong platform for 3rd party developers to plug into. But for photographers, they're certainly including what they need and  want rather rapidly.

If Adobe doesn't become innovative here, and quickly, we can see from the boom in very reasonable competition for the image editing market, anyway, that they're going to have a difficult time remaining part of that competition. That's why my fingers are crossed they've been working on this behind closed doors. I would love the integration of such an app with the rest of the Creative Cloud applications.
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I just stitched and rendered 10 100MB TIFFs into one large 145 megapixel ~1 GB (!!!) panorama photo on my iPad Pro 12.9" with Affinity Photo in about 5 minutes. That is about as long as with Lightroom on my Core i7 Dell XPS15 laptop from 2012. Like I said before: it is not the hardware, it is Adobe.

If it was possible to export in TIFF, DNG, PSD or so from Lightroom Mobile, I would use Affinity Photo as my PhotoShop on iPad and Lightroom Mobile as my RAW editor. My problem would be solved.
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Yes, it would be great to have Photoshop CC on the iPad Pro 12.9 model. The pencil is great and the CPU power should be sufficient, because Affinity Photo for iPad is working without any delay.
Now with iOS 11 there is a file system and Apple under Tim Cook is much more open.
Currently I am using PS and LR on my iMac Retina and it would be a pain to buy a MS-Surface Pro just to run PS.
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Not true, the ipad pro runs the desktop version of clip studio paint. Its my daily go to software.
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I'm hopeful that Adobe will come out with a full version of Photoshop and Lightroom for iPad pro! I'm actually considering picking up a Surface pro 3 for the sole purpose of running LR cc and PS cc.
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I don't see why they would even make such an item with out having full versions of photoshop and Lightroom. I will buy one once they don
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Check out http://astropad.com

We turn the iPad into a pen display for the Mac. We will be supporting the iPad Pro as well, it's going to be awesome!
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled What Photoshop product will be available for the new IPad Pro.

I am considering purchasing an IPad Pro I am a keen Photographer. I currently have CS6 on my Mac Book Pro. will there be a better version than the current apps available for ipad
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled More Power for Mobile.

I really would like it if the iPad Pro version of all the Adobe CC suite would have a less mobile and more desktop class of use. The iPad Pro has all the power to handle the Program at more power than it has now. Also companies like LaCie have made external drives you can use with their app. You should add a way to work off of a hard drive. That would be so amazing. Maybe even add tethered capture to the mobile version.
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https://feedback.photoshop.com/photos...

Like Astropad, what was mentioned by Matt Ronge, only need like astropad for windows PC
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Hi guys! I am the product designer manager on Photoshop and would love to speak with anyone on this thread more off-line. Please contact me at bradee at adobe.com!
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Hi Bradee, I was looking at purchasing an iPad Pro for the sole purpose of photo editing (I spend as much time editing photos as many people spend gaming). After researching and discovering that the iPad Pro will not run a full desktop version of Elements I'm seeking other options. I'll still be purchasing Elements 14 but the Apple product will not be the iPad Pro -  I was so looking forward to using the new pencil. sigh. I will likely get the desktop Mac, if it isn't going to be portable and touch screen friendly I might as well get the largest screen I can for editing when I'm at home. I really wanted something the size of the 27inch iPad Pro so I could do on-the-go editing since I have a lot of travel/down time during the day and I don't really get into gaming or watching shows. I am also less inclined to get on the computer at the end of the day - so I'll do less editing with a desktop machine but if its the only option... I hope Apple/Adobe can provide a full version on at least one of the portable platforms in the near future, they are losing the growing amateur photography market.
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I'm in exactly the same boat! What did you end up getting?
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Hi Bradee, i'd like to help improve, i'm dutch professional photographer, using Photoshop/Lightroom CC. Like mentioned in my message, like to use iPad Pro, with pencil as graphic tablet for Windows PC for Retouching purpose in Photoshop. Or when by customer to evaluate photosession from lightroom (for example).
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If there will be a full stable photoshop version running on the ipad pro it will be a game changer for adobe and apple
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What we really need is for Apple to do some catch up on competitors and come up with a notebook that runs full OS and can draw on screen.
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I'm a photographer and I just got the iPad Pro and the pencil, I was really dissapointed to find out there's no way to edit professional images with my newly bought iPad Pro and pencil. I have a PC which is why the astropad isn't an option for me. A Pro Photoshop version for iPad Pro is very much needed!
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Microsoft is ahead of Apple for many years. Your tablet surface pro if you can run any program.
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Look, this is not a pissing contest. I don’t give a crap about who is lightyears ahead of who and if you like Apple, Microsoft, Red or green, patatoes or pizza. If you are here for a pissing contest to see who can piss the furthest, please leave. This is the wrong thread for that. We like a constructive discussion, to get pro level photo editing software from Adobe on our iPad Pros.

This all has nothing to do with the hard- or software or OS of the iPad Pros. Affinity Photo of Serif is proof that the iPad Pro can run FULL PROFESSIONAL photo editing sofware. I was able to stitch and edit an 1 gigabyte (!) panorama photo, made out of TEN (!) 24 megapixel RAW photos, with Affinity Photo on my IPAD PRO! And as fast as I can do that on my Core i7 laptop with Lightroom CC. Also the benchmarks don’t lie. The hardware and sofware of an iPad Pro is very, very fast and very well optimized. Core i7 fast according to geekbench. And yes, maybe not the newest Core i7 fast, but it is Core i7 fast. iPad Pro’s are waaaaaaaaays faster and have more memory as the minimum specs require for a x86 PC that can run Photoshop CC. I can tell from experience that editing RAW photos on my iPad Pro with Lightroom Mobile runs way better and faster, then editing the same RAW photos with Lightoom CC on my Windows Core i7 laptop with nVidia Graphics. (Yeah I know, Lightroom CC is badly optimized, as Adobe has admitted recently.) But this tread is also proof that there is a NEW market for a proper Lightroom CC and Photoshop CC for the iPad Pros. Look at the people here wanting it! Like I said before and in my earlier posts here, it is not the hardware, nor the software of the iPad. It is Adobe. The only restriction is Adobe. Adobe seems like a sluggish dinosaur. They are missing an opportunity here! A new market to conquer. And we all know what happened to the dinosaurs...
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> Microsoft is ahead of Apple for many years. Your tablet surface pro if you can run any program.>

I'm not going to get a Surface Pro. I have a laptop that works just fine. I'm not going to run Microsoft. So I really don't care if MS is light years ahead of Apple—it is in some areas, mainly hardware options, unacceptable to me as an operating system in others. So the only option for me is to have Adobe produce an app for iOS that is far more full-featured than currently, and I'd prefer ONE such powerful app for pixel editing, another for vector, perhaps combine layout and storytelling—IOW, I'd like more power and flexibility in fewer mobile apps. I wouldn't think twice about plunking down the cash on a new iPad Pro with Apple Pencil if they did. Okay by me they cut the cord to iPads that can't run it, and new apps just for the new iPad Pro is the way to do that.

I think it's perfectly fine to have a dozen itty bitty apps for the consumer (and I do think they can be fun time-wasters for everyone as they are), but I think both pros and enthusiasts would welcome more consolidation as there is on the desktop, and far more flexible, powerful editing.

Such programs would be fine on iOS as it is today, and could be ported to MS and Android, far as I'm concerned. Why shut out any of the major devices?

In the meantime, I'm learning Affinity on the desktop and eventually, when I do upgrade my iPad to an iPad Pro, I may wind up getting Affinity for that, but I'd really prefer the connectivity to my Adobe apps, even though I thus far like Affinity on the desktop as far as it goes. I still prefer, even need, Adobe apps, to do most of the things I do. I don't see that changing anytime soon, so I hope Adobe is working feverishly behind the scenes to compete directly with Affinity for the iPad.  We all know they won't tell us if they are.<G>
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For digital illustrators being able to use Photoshop on iPad Pro would be amazing. I do use an app like Affinity, but it would be far better to just have it directly on the iPad. The Pro has the specs to support it, they just need to make it happen. They really aren't progressing at the rate they should compared to the hardware being offered.
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I'm so pissed off that Apple and Adobe don't offer the strong support for the iPad Pro, that I'm about to give it away to my nephew.  Wake up Apple and Adobe.  Getting
very lazy and slow!
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I bought an iPad pro for my wife, she mostly surfs the web, does email, watches video, plays games and such. Although she was a photographer in the air force she has since given it up, so I don't see the iPad getting a lot of heavy use. But, as a lap top alternative it kicks BUTT. Super fun.
I however, am a retoucher, illustrator, etc. and I needed something I could take out of town that was beefy-isa. I just bought a refurbished Surface Pro 3 (i7 chip, 8gigs ram, 512g memory). It's a nice little machine and it can keep me up to date on my smaller clients. 
I would RATHER have been able to use an iPad Pro. It's a nicer piece of equipment and I'm not a huge fan of the microsoft OS. I've messed around with the iPad Pro and the drawing is REALLY good. You'd need a Wacom Mobile Studio to beat it (but those are 3k$). But, there's not enough Photoshop available on the iPad Pro. 
There might be a Photoshop alternative: Affinity Photo. Affinity also makes a Vector Design program (like Illustrator or Inkspace), and a layout program (like In Design). If all that becomes available and useable, then that'd be my #2 option. But, adobe... c'mon! We could do real work with Photoshop CS ten years ago. The iPad Pro isn't as capable as a 10 year old laptop? Seriously. I understand if you had to drop some bigger features (3D  or ArtBoards), maybe scale back to a previous photoshop, but you could make a Photoshop CiOS. Heck, you've already made them. Dust one off, port it over and see what you get.
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The iPad Pro and iPhone 7 run circles around the newest Intel Atoms and Celerons that can run Photoshop CC. It is as fast the older Broadwell i5 and i7 CPUs. (Check geekbench.) These Apple devices are really powerfull! It is not a question of hardware IMHO. It is a question of Adobe seeing a market and taking the newest iPad devices with pencils seriously and most importantly take me as a photographer-on-the-go serious!

Look, I love Adobe for the Photoshop CC and Lightroom CC and the Lightroom Mobile app on the iPad, but the other Photoshop Apps on iPad are lacking some serious functions IMHO. To be honest, I hate Adobe for killing the Photoshop Touch app - the closest thing we had to Photoshop CC on Mobile!

What I would love to see: the Photoshop apps on iPad get full DNG support, so you could edit your photos straight from Lightroom Mobile in Mix or Fix, without converting to JPG. I would love to see better layer blending and masking in Photoshop Mix, i.e. luminousity masks, gradient masks, etc., because I like to shoot bracketed. I would also love a HDR and Panorama stitching function in Lightroom Mobile. This all would prevent me from hauling my heavy Windows laptop with me when I am out shooting photos.

Come on, Adobe! Embrace this new mobile opportunity! There is a gap that needs to be filled!
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Of all the peripheral apps that evolved from Photoshop, not one of the Adobe apps features the filters which are native to Photoshop desktop versions since the beginning. Specifically, photocopy filter and trace contour filters. Any and all knockoffs just don't compare. Id like to see that feature for my iPad.
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Okay so here's my take on this - there are TONS of photo editing apps out there already for iOS. Based on what apps are currently offered by Adobe for iOS, you guys have just developed a lot of apps to do what all the other photo editing apps out there currently do. Probably better, but still the same things. The people who WANT to use your programs and apps don't want a photo editor that can make someone's hair blue or whatever. We want powerful editing capabilities on the go. We want the options of batch processing our RAW images because working on a tablet is much more convenient and appealing than working at desktop or on a laptop without TOUCH capabilities. You guys are seriously missing out on a HUGE market and losing current clients by not figuring out how to make this work with iOS faster. The current direction of the market is moving toward touch and on-the-go work. Please please please help us get there faster! Thank you!!
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Exactly. As it stands, I'd have to buy half a dozen non-Adobe apps just to get a few more features that I use in PS on my computers. Sure, Adobe's mobile apps do some things a bit better than other free/cheap photo editing apps, but for anyone wanting to use the iPad Pro as their main device, it makes the entire cost of CC outrageous. Right now it'd make more sense to cancel the CC membership and spend the money on a bunch of apps that get you a convoluted workflow that ultimately gets you Photoshop-ish results.

I completely understand keeping the regular iPad and iPhones on the barebones Photoshop apps due to processing power, storage, and other features. But the iPad Pros have great CPUs and GPU chips, even more so with the refreshed line. They also have support for the Apple Pencil, some pro-oriented iOS features, and even a (basically desktop-class) file manager as of iOS 11. There's nothing hardware-wise that would prevent Adobe from porting their most popular CC apps over to the Pro.
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I want to be able to use all my brushes and filters while I'm doing digital drawing on my IPadPro. I hate that I seriously have to consider buying a Surface Pro for drawing, just to use Photoshop. Is creating  a full program for iOS impossible? I wasn't overly impressed with what we learned at the last Adobe Max, I feel like we're not getting what honestly need--not everyone is creating web applications (I do, but I could care less about that--its not that challenging with current tools) 
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I have an old Core i7 laptop that runs Lightroom CC and Photoshop just fine. My iPad Pro is single core just as fast as the i7 and multicore the i7 is twice as fast, but it also has two cores more. (Source: Geekbench) My laptop has 8 GB of memory and the iPad Pro 12.9 4 GB of memory. I can't see that hardware is an issue, basically the iPad Pro is far better then the minimum specs for Photoshop CC.

The Lightroom Mobile app is absolutely a great app. To be honest, I prefer it over Lightroom CC because of the great and intuitive user interface and I can edit my photos lying on the couch... Or in the middle of nowhere. :) It still misses functions of the CC version and I most miss the great HDR and Panorama function of Lightroom CC in Lightroom Mobile. BTW Lightroom Mobile is also a very good app for shooting RAW pictures with your iPhone.

...But there simply is NO replacement on iOS for Photoshop CC. I almost tested all Photo apps free and paid. But there isn't. None. Noppes. Nada. You guys and girls at Adobe have a great opportunity. Again, please bring Photoshop CC to iOS. Don't miss out!
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The Pros are even more powerful now- they just bumped them up to the A10X and claimed they can compete with a desktop i7 in graphics editing applications. I don't see any reason for Adobe NOT to port desktop apps to the iPad Pro at this point- unless they don't want to move developers to a new project/hire new iOS devs. But we pay enough for our CC subscriptions that this shouldn't even be an issue for Adobe.
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Yep, the new iPad Pros are just as fast as my Core i7 Dell XPS15 laptop from 2012. (Source: Geekbench.) My laptop runs Lightroom CC and PhotoShop CC perfectly fine. Like I said, the hardware of the iPad Pros is not the problem. Affinity Photo is also proof the iPad Pros are fast enough. I made a 145 megapixel, aprrox. 1 GB (!!!) large panorama photo with Affinity Photo, consisting of 10 TIFF files of about 100 MB!!! Wow! Very impressive!

As much as I love what Serif did with Affinity Photo on iPad, I still would love to see a proper Lightroom and Photoshop for the iPad Pro.
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Hey guys.
Someone already mentioned this a while a go but there is an application called Astropad. It lets you use the full functionality of the Apple Pencil and iPad Pro along with any desktop mac app.
I got it and I absolutely love it. Though it isnt a solution from adobe it is a flawless solution.
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I've also heard good things about Astropad, but the entire point of the iPad Pro (at least, according to Apple) is to replace the laptop, not be an accessory. Sure, being able to use my iPad as a graphics tab is nifty. But the iPad Pro is capable of so much more- the new ones can compete with current-gen i7s in terms of computing/graphics power. Why would I want to lug around both an oversized iPad and my Macbook, when the iPad is easily capable of running a full-featured CC app if Adobe released one?
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I'm sure everyone would much rather have a full version of Photoshop for iPad, but Adobe doesn't seem to be in a hurry to make one. So Astropad is all there is for the time being.
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...And Duet display. :)
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Have installed Astropad and Duett and yes you can do a few things but you cannot compare it with a direct installed PS on iPad.
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I'll have to look into it. I don't think Adobe is providing a solution any time soon.
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They actually have 2 versions. One is the standard that is basic stuff and then they have studio which is for more complex things. It depends on your needs.
The website is just Astropad.com
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Great to hear about your Astropad experience. Would love to try it, but I have a Windows laptop, so I can't use Astropad (yet). I use Duet display sometimes, but it is far from perfect.

It also doesn't solve my other problem. When I am out shooting, I have a rucksack full of camera (and camping) gear and my iPad Pro. I don't want to bring my very heavy Windows laptop with me. For the weight I save, I can bring an extra lens or set of lenses with me. The iPad Pro is ideal for on the go photo editing. It's weight is low, battery lasts very long and iOS just simply works fantastic with your fingers or the pencil. It also does not have the quirks of Windows (update) and MacOS lacks touch support. Really, for me there is no substitute for iOS.

Lightroom CC and Photoshop CC on iPad would be awesome! There is an oportunity for Adobe.
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Hey I also have duet display. Duet is also starting to ship duet display pro that, while not nearly as effective as Astropad as far as option, provides the tilt and pressure use of the Apple Pencil even on windows.
Hope that helps.
The website is duetdisplay.com/pro
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Photoshop for iPad Pro.

Now that Apple has announced the updated iPad Pro line, it seems like a great time for a full-featured version of Photoshop on these professional tablets. During the WWDC keynote today, it was mentioned that the new Pros can compete with current-gen i7's for photo/graphic work. Aside from the different CPU architecture, is there any real reason for Adobe to avoid bringing the full suite of features over to iOS (at least the iPad Pro)? Once iOS 11 hits we'll even have a file manager to move files around the device/network/cloud just as easily as on desktop.

Anyone willing to shell out $649/$799+ for an iPad Pro is obviously looking for a high-end tablet that can (at least partially) replace the laptop when they're out and about. The screens are awesome, they're more portable than even laptops, and the touchscreen consolidates a graphics tablet and computer into one piece of equipment. Considering the raw computing power stuffed into these iPads, and the number of paying CC subscribers that would love to be able to do heavier graphics work from these tablets, it seems like an easy choice to make.

While I'd love to see the full Creative Cloud suite come to iPad Pro, it's probably unreasonable to rebuild everything for the different architecture. It seems to me like Photoshop could be a good way to test the waters here, and if it gets good feedback, maybe consider Illustrator and some other apps in the future.
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I think Photoshop is the only one that really needs it, the Illustrator app works fine, but I usually finish things in Photoshop, and thats where the frustration comes in
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Jon, I imagine I was the first to reply to your Statement about the iPad Pro. You really kicked up a storm..Great work..From the replies there are a lot of disappointed  iPadPro users..Good work, now all we need is to have Apple to Do something, so that we can use full versions of PS. .Dick Betchley
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If Affinity Photo can bring out a full functioning app for the iPad, I'm sure Adobe can stuff a lot of PS into one. Since they're pretty big on mobile apps, I hope they don't sit on the sidelines while everyone else gets established. It wouldn't surprise me at all if On1 wasn't already thinking about it, too. LR Mobile is a great idea, but it doesn't really go far enough.

Of course, Adobe may well be working on it and not ready to share.  So everybody be sure to vote.  '-}
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Yep. Just bought it and gonna play with Affinity Photo. It also does 32bit HDR and panorama stitching , stacking and focus stacking on iPad it says! Wow! Looks like somebody is willing to fill the gap we see and experience.

I certainly hope Adobe steps up his game and comes with Photoshop CC and Lightroom CC for iOS.
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I haven't pulled the trigger on an iPad Pro upgrade just yet. The first one I thought maybe they were taking baby steps to offering a tablet to compete with the Surface Pro. Now, I am more willing to upgrade by seeing Affinity Photo is going there, but I'd definitely upgrade for PS or ON1 Photo Raw. If Adobe drags its heels, On1 is enough like PS, I don't find it's much of a learning curve, and being able to do real editing on an iPad Pro makes the device worth the upgrade.

Do let us know after you've worked with Affinity Photo for a bit if it actually lives up to our anticipations, or if you find significant limitations. Whatever works, or more importantly, doesn't work on the iPad will quite likely reflect what we can also hope for from Adobe.

The one concern I have about Adobe even offering us a better iPad editing app than they have,  is Adobe has been offering mobile apps for free and may think they won't get their money back on development if they charge a reasonable price—that we'll be expecting them to offer it free through subscription. I can understand that offering the full app on an iPad costs a lot for them to develop, and simply folding it into our subscription might not make financial sense to them. But a reasonable price for something as specialized as a serious editor, and a direct connection to the desktop version if we need to make more specialized edits would be acceptable to a lot of folk. However, if both Affinity and On1 Photo Raw get there first and get established, the market for iPad Pro, which I doubt is huge, becomes considerably smaller.
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Well, so far I can say that Affinity Photo is a great app. It istill is somewhat buggy, but you get extensive editing tools, it is a lot like PhotoShop and Lightroom in one. It only has one MAJOR FLAW for me: you can only open RAW photos from cloud storage and NOT from the photo app on the iPad. Major let down! :( This means that if I import photos via the SD to lightning adapter, I canot edit the RAW photos in Affinity Photo, but it'll open the embedded JPEG. So I still have to use 4g or WiFi and/or a laptop to share the RAW photos in the cloud and then I can use them in Affinity. But if they'll fix this in an update, Adobe is in serious trouble on the iPad (Pro) IMHO and I might end my subscription...

Edit: opening RAW photos with Affinity Photo from th photo app will be implemented in a future update.
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> opening RAW photos with Affinity Photo from th photo app will be implemented in a future update.>

That's good to hear. Even LR Mobile can work with the Photos app. Not letting us directly transfer from our cameras would be a major drawback indeed. Thanks for the update.
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I am definitely in support of a more complete Photoshop for iPad Pro. Both Affinity Photo and Pixelmator have shown both that the iPad Pro is now capable of running near-desktop applications, and that there is a demand for it. There are too many apps right now... Keep Express, and make a full-featured version that is subscription-only (as in part of the CC Subscription plans) that is at least on par with what Affinity Photo can do.