Lightroom: Aperture import not working - stuck on "Checking Aperture Library"

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More challenges getting my Aperture Library in to Lightroom. When I select the Plugin Extras and choose Import Aperture Library, Lightroom automatically goes in to some sort of Checking Aperture Library mode. It's not giving me a chance to PICK the Aperture Library I want to Import. I wanted to start with a very small library for a test but it apparently is going right to my monster 1TB Aperture Library. I'm guessing that's the case since it it's checking the Aperture Library that's on the drive the big library is on. There does seem to be an option to tell the program where to go but the auto option kicks in and I can't get to the SELECT button. Screen shot attached. Good grief I wished this was easier. Any one know of a way to stop the auto Checking Aperture Library tool from starting?
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Are you running the recent update to Lightroom 5.7?
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Any other thoughts about this issue?
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I'm checking with the Lightroom guys to see if they have any suggestions.
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Any news here? My Lightroom trial will expire before I even can import things and test it. :)
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Any suggestions?
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Douglas Fields

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Jeffrey, did you hear anything about this yet?
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Daniel J. Cox

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Yes, the most current 5.7. Using a MacPro 6 core, 32gig of ram with both new Lightroom Catalog and Aperture Library on Thunderbolt 2 8TB hard Drive. About as much speed as you could ever want and it is DOG slow.
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Hello all,

I just downloaded the Lightroom trial tonight (11/23/2014) to see if I can move there from Aperture as well.

My Aperture library is 2.2TB or so, also stored on a Thunderbolt Promise RAID. Although my main computer is now out of commission, Aperture runs fine on my 8GB Macbook Air laptop, as does Lightroom - if I could get it to do anything.

It has been running python at 100% CPU for the "Checking Aperture Library" for several hours now.

What should I expect here?

Thanks!
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My 1TB Aperture Library finished in about 12 hours. I left the machine running over night and came back the next morning. I then had the chance to finally select a different 26GB library, the one I originally wanted to try, and Lightroom then when into check mode again. I didn't have the time to let it go for the many hours it might have taken so I Quit Lightroom and moved on. Haven't attempted it again since. Waiting to see if Adobe gives us a better update.
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Hi Daniel,

I left it running overnight and 16-ish hours later I'm greeted by this maddening message: "The importer plug-in supports libraries maintained with Aperture 3.5.1 and later. An older library is currently selected. Please note that errors may be encountered if you proceed."

Wonderful. I run 10.8.X and not the newer versions of OS X because I find that Apple makes more steps backwards than forwards lately. That also means I can't upgrade to Aperture 3.5.1 from 3.4.5 (let alone the 3.6 that is required to use with 10.10).

Well, I guess that rules out upgrading to Lightroom (or Capture One for that matter, as it requires 10.9), and just sticking with Aperture, at least until I pull the trigger on 10.9. (Definitely not going to 10.10 until Apple fixes its major security problems with "handoff" and the like.)

Thanks,

Doug
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How about temporarily installing 10.10 in a separate partition to run the newer version of Aperture?
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That's not a bad idea, Victoria. I probably wouldn't do 10.10, but definitely would do 10.9. Maybe I will try to make a copy of the library and upgrade that, as I definitely wouldn't want to upgrade the original. I wonder how I install 10.9 on an external hard drive... Hm.

Shame that I will have to go through the whole 16-hour ordeal again. I have to plan on doing this during a time when I have nothing else going on... which definitely isn't this week what with the holidays and traveling with the laptop!

Thanks,

Doug
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Well, I did exactly that. It took most of the day to copy the 2TB Aperture library to another drive, install OS X 10.9 to yet another drive, and then run Aperture 3.5.1 for a 5-minute library upgrade. Then I booted back into my real environment (running 10.8) and ran Lightroom.

Now the Lightroom "Checking Aperture Library" is running again. I'll know more in about 16 hours I guess!

To anyone who wants to avoid the Lightroom "Checking Aperture Library" problem at startup of import: Open Aperture, create a new Library, make sure it's selected, and close Aperture. Then Lightroom seems to take only a few seconds "Checking Aperture Library" on the empty library (which it actually says has 1 photo, go figure).
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Despite the previous I figured I would try the import anyway, for grins; who knows, maybe it would work.

So I hit "Options" and then enabled "Previews from Aperture" checkbox "For images which have been adjusted in Aperture, import full size previews from the Aperture Library (if they are available and up-to-date)."

Well, joy of joys, the "Checking Aperture Library" box immediately re-appeared and it looks like clicking a single checkbox will now require another 16 hours of waiting.

This importer seems to be very broken in terms of usability with libraries of any sort of size.

Cheers,

Doug
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Wow, great idea on how to circumvent Lightroom from hanging for hours on end due to a large library. It concerns me that Adobe has no clue on the size of library's many Aperture users have if they built this software in a way that doesn't give you the chance to select a library BEFORE it goes in to check mode. Thanks for sharing this idea.
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Well Daniel there's a worse problem.

I finally started the import this morning at almost 9AM. It's now 2PM (5 hours later) and it has imported only 144G of almost 2T - over 160,000 pictures. The first imports were very fast, but the program has slowed down noticeably since then, and there are only 14,500 photos copied. It's as if the software is not optimized for importing large amounts of data and each import takes longer than the last (like doing a naive insertion sort or something).

Even if it doesn't slow down any more, it means it will take at least 55 hours to do the import. That means Thursday at 4PM it might be done. Well, I don't know about you but I'm going somewhere Thursday morning for the weekend and need my computer.

I really think you're right. I don't think Adobe folks really understand exactly how large a library people have in Aperture. And Aperture is FAST. Or was, before it was abandoned.

Cheers,

Doug
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Thanks for the update Doug. I agree, the Lightroom Importer doesn't seem ready for Prime time for large Aperture Libraries. The sad part is you and I are the only ones on this thread, not a good sign of enough interest from others to make this all go away.

Good luck and at least have a good holiday.
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I just did a brief test. Over the course of 123 seconds it managed to import 78 pictures, a rate of about 2/3rds of a picture per second (or two pictures every three seconds). I'm up to 15,139 pictures imported out of, as I said, over 160,000 (I think it's 168,000, but I have 176,663 in my Aperture Masters directory, so some are probably in the Trash or duplicates or something).

This indicates an import will take about 2 2/3rds days.

I'm thinking maybe I should just use my test upgrade to 10.9.x and try Capture One. Which would be a shame, as I have thousands of my photos in DNG converted originals which are right up Adobe's alley.
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Just another bullet point on performance.

4,292 seconds to import 2,374 photos.

1.8 seconds per photo, or 0.55 photos per second.

Looks like Lightroom's Aperture import is not useful and is much too slow, and getting slower.
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Great real world situation that proves we're still in dire need of something more powerful. I appreciate you keeping track of all this and how it's going.
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And of course... the operator screwed something up and unpowered the external drive and all that work is now lost.
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18,593 pictures imported.
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Oh. And I'm the operator. :)
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Doesn't it just stink when there is nobody else to blame Operator Errors on? Sorry for your pain. Hang in there.
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It's disappointing to hear nothing from Adobe. Well, I guess I will move on from considering Adobe Lightroom as an alternative to Aperture. If it can't handle my 2TB, 160,000+ images then I will find something else.
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Indeed, it's disappointing that the plugin isn't working very well. However, many LR users have catalogs larger than 160K images. So if you don't find a better alternative, you could consider manually migrating your Aperture library to LR:

http://lightroomsolutions.com/article...
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Thanks for that reference. I had seen it when it first came out (before the Lightroom import plug-in) and decided that Lightroom wasn't worth using if I had to do it that way. Unfortunately, that is unchanged.

I guess I will upgrade to 10.9 or 10.10 (I hate upgrading, you never know how long it will take you to get everything working again) and try Capture One Pro, see how that goes.
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Agreed Douglas. Funny how Jeffery Tranberry jumped in at the start but has gone completely silent.
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I have decided to attempt a migration to Capture One Pro 8.1. I tried migrating my 171,000 photo Aperture Library twice now, on a MacBook Air and a (trashcan) Mac Pro. Both times failed after 120,000 pictures due to memory exhaustion. Capture One jumps from about 5GB used to 60GB RAM used, so they clearly have a memory leak.

I guess the bottom line is this: Nobody actually can handle photo libraries the way Apple's Aperture did, with hundreds of thousands of pictures operating extremely quickly.
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Lightroom (and likely C1 too) can handle catalogs of that size with no problem, but the importer scripts are probably more limited. How about using Aperture to split your library into a few smaller libraries and then importing those? If it's falling over due to library size, that should help.
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Hi Victoria,

That's an interesting suggestion. I wonder how I would go about doing that. I have never done that and indeed hoped never to have to do that, as I always wanted a unified view into everything. I guess I will have to research things. Maybe I can do a "split" that only splits the meta data and leaves the pictures in their original locations.

Thanks,

Doug
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I'm no Aperture expert, but "export projects as new library" seems to be the key term. Once they're in Lightroom, you can return to your unified view with no problem.
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Well, I finally got the import to run. It took quite a few days, and imported over 175,000 photos. (Not sure why so many, but whatever.)

The sad thing is that Lightroom is almost unusable. You have to start Lightroom and wait approximately an hour before it will stabilize and be usable. It seems to be loading a lot of data slowly in the background.

I will try it a few more times over the coming weeks and look into how it is.
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It will take a while for LR to build previews of so many pics. If they're raws, it could take a day or two. (JPEGs should go faster.) In normal use, importing a couple hundred raws is no big deal and LR would handle it just fine. But 175K...
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This thread is INCREDIBLE helpful to me - thank you everyone! I have a 1.5 TB aperture library, maybe 125,000 images or so. I'm hung on the "checking aperture library" window, and see that my fears may indeed be correct: that my waiting is just beginning.

Not sure where to go from here, but I really appreciate hearing all of your analysis.
-Dan
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled LIGHTROOM Aperture Import Tool Fails to Activate "Import" Button.

Aperture import tool in Adobe Lightroom never displays an active "Import" button. It remains greyed-out. The import tool starts and apparently is checking my Aperture library for some things. It appears to finish. However, the import tool never figures out the number of image files ("undetermined") in m Aperture library or the file size ("undetermined" ) of my Aperture library.

The vital statistics for my Aperture file are as follows:
Version: Aperture Library 3.6
Filename: Aperture Library.aplibrary
Filesize: 136.08 GB
# Projects: 403
# Photos: 27,392
Permissions:
myself Read + Write
staff Read
everyone Read

This is all happening on my Apple iMac (iMac (24-inch, Early 2009) running Mac OS X (Yosemite version 10.10.1).

This is very frustrating. Others in your community forum(s) are reporting the same problem there.

Please investigate and resolve this ASAP.

Regards,

Tony
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Here's the error entries in the "LibraryImporter.log" on my iMac. I get this same error message repeatedly every time I try to use the Adobe Aperture Import tool and the tool fails to activate the "Import" button:

2015-01-12 00:11:17 +0000, INFO Failed to get info on image versions with error Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/Applications/Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 5.app/Contents/PlugIns/aperture_iphoto_importer.lrplugin/Contents/Resources/python/imageVersions.py", line 350, in
result = getVersionInfoFromDB( unicode( sys.argv[ 1 ], 'utf-8' ) )
File "/Applications/Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 5.app/Contents/PlugIns/aperture_iphoto_importer.lrplugin/Contents/Resources/python/imageVersions.py", line 274, in getVersionInfoFromDB
masterImagePath = os.path.join( currentMasterVolumePath, row[ 2 ] )
File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/posixpath.py", line 75, in join
if b.startswith('/'):
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'startswith'
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Having the same problem. My Aperture library is about 60GB. I just subscribed to LR & PS, created a couple of test collections to play with, deleted them and removed their associated folders. Started the Import plug-in. The checking Aperture library blue bar just zips to the end, then the import box says undetermined for number of files and file size. I can click on the Options box, select keep files referenced, and continue. The checking blue bar zips past, goes away, but both number and size are still undetermined, and the import button never lights up.
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I found that the import button was greyed out when my computer's drive was selected as the destination for the photos. Once I selected my external hard drive (which has enough free space, unlike my computer drive), the "import" button is clickable.
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I am having the same problem and I am just doing a small 23 Gb Aperture library to see what I can learn before I try my 1 TB library. I know I've selected a drive that is large enough. The checking Lightroom goes through no problem but the import button remains greyed out. I've tried lots of different options and nothing has helped (man do I wish Apple had kept Aperture going).
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Looks like the solution will be to split my Aperture library into smaller chunks. My library is about 60 gb referencing about 500 gb of photos on a 1tb external hard drive. With Apple killing off Aperture, I wanted to try Lightroom. The plugin in Lightroom to import an Aperture library didn't work. After an hour and a half on the phone to New Dehli (with a very nice, helpful agent) we had tried changing various permissions, copying the Aperture3 library to the external drive, and other things. Finally, the agent suggested I create a new Aperture library with only a few photos. The new library imported into Lightroom almost instantly. The conclusion was that my Aperture library was too large, and Lightroom was choking on it. I'll try splitting off several portions of the Aperture library to import singly.
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It's a real shame that there actually DOESN'T seem to be a reasonable solution because of these two issues:

1. My library is 1.5 TB or more, meaning I would have to split the library into what 10 or 20 chunks? I'm more afraid of what I would lose in that process - what I would miss by accident. And that may be a low number, I may need to split it into 50 chucks to be small enough for the import.

2. I've heard this elsewhere in this forum, but am not sure myself: Lightroom reportedly won't be able to handle a library that large with any kind of working efficiency on a daily basis.

So it seems I have to entirely rethink how my photos are organized (and spend the time to reorganize 1.5TB of photos) before I even consider using Lightroom.

That's a big project.
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Having the same problem with being stuck on the "checking" phase. It's annoying it doesn't actually show that it's making any progress – it just looks like it got stuck. Mine went away after about 10-15 minutes for a 658GB library.
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I too am having the same problem. It did stop auto-checking the wrong place and this morning I was able to select the external drive which is where my aperture library sits. I had to leave it trying to action my drive selection. Hoping that when I get home, It will have completed selecting my external drive and will have re-calculated what it needs to move. Any tips for me?
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Same thing here...

My library is only 181GB - the plugin "thinks" for a few minutes, does not compute the number of files, nor it computes the disk space requirements, and the import button is never enabled.
I have 220GB free on my HD, so, more than enough space...

Is there support available? No, just the "community"...

At least I haven't signed up for CC yet - I have 25 days left to test. If I don't get to import my aperture library, guess what? Do you think I will purchase Lightroom or Photoshop? NO WAY!!!
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Am a lightroom CC user (recent m 4/3 camera purchaser), and am really enjoying it. The sync to mobile makes you very productive in sorting and rating and touching up your work (though not keywords yet).

Am now trying to put my iphoto library into Lightroom and its taking a while. But think it will be worth it to be able to organise it all easily.