Photoshop: Provide support for Linux

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I was wondering if Adobe released any Photoshop versions for Linux? Because I looked everywhere in Adobe's site but I could not find any information.
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I just read the "PhotoShop For Linux ?" thread from the old feature request forum. Adobe's survey data suggested that the majority of linux users were not willing to purchase professional software. Has Adobe since gathered user data since the release of Ubuntu Software Center, which allows developers to charge for their software? If so, are users more willing to pay for professional software now that there is a platform for it on Linux?

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Photoshop for Ubuntu Software Center?.
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Are you being sarcastic, or really trying to compare those applications to something as complex as Photoshop?
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@Chris Cox
Chris, I agree photoshop is a complex program, and I think paul archer makes a good point that alot of software for linux is originally made for linux or developed concurrently. And while the examples of paid software for linux that Glen gave may or may not be as complex as photoshop, surely there are quite a few pieces of software that are. Take for Maya for instance by autodesk, and Avid makes quite a few programs available on linux as well.

Oh well though, I'm not even sure it's worth pushing for anymore to be honest, I recently sucked it up and bought cs5.5 for my mac before my student pricing ran out. Maybe someday my dreams of linux and adobe will come true. If not, there's always Blender (in place of after effects), inkscape, gimp, and scribus, while the last 3 are not as good as their adobe equivilants, I could make do with them.
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@Chris: I don't know if you're asking me or Glen, but while I agree that PS is pretty complex, I don't think that Gimp, Firefox, OpenOffice, etc are *not* complex.
I don't really think it's a matter of complexity, so much as it is a matter of coding practices that avoid, as much as possible, OS-specific code, hooks, and APIs.

As far as your earlier comment that there is "no significant market for commercial software on Linux..." That really needs to be amended. There may or may not be a market for commercial *image editing* software (and there are some commercial NLE video editors on Linux, so I would go with "may"), but there is plenty of commecial software on Linux. Well, shucky darn (can't say "he77" here, jeez), my company pays big bucks (in the $100k range) every year to Oracle, which we run exclusively on Linux.
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@Paul: There is a market on Linux for server software. Just not so much for desktop software (I should have been more specific).

And Photoshop is few orders of magnitude more complex than the apps you first listed. Yes, the lack of standards and problems with APIs on Linux can be overcome -- if you have a market that makes it worth the hassle.
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It seems that there is a vicious cycle occurring here. Linux (or "Linux/GNU", to be a stickler about this) doesn't have the market to support large companies supporting the operating system, and the market isn't there because the user doesn't have all of the software he/she may need in their workflow (photoshop, 3dsmax to name a few).
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Okay, how about this - start a campaign wherein you have something like Kickstarter, so you can assess the number of people who'd buy Photoshop for Linux and accordingly, you could decide whether you want to port or not.

One of the major roadblocks in desktop Linux adoption is the lack of Photoshop for it. You guys make it, and you can be sure that there will be a huge upsurge in the number of Linux users (as well as Photoshop users.)

These aren't people who are covered under your market surveys and "are not willing to pay for software" but rather Windows and Mac OSX users who are sick and tired of those platforms and really want to switch to Linux. Do it. They'll love you more. And pay you more, too.
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What you said certainly reflects the truth ..

I am a new linux user, from about one year, i was bored about Widnows and IOS,
not enough freedom, we want more, Linux is a new world in respect of operative systems, linux users are more likely to pay for programs.

I would not have problems to buy an original Photoshop, linux user are are happy to reward good distribuitions of programs..!

Sorry for my english, i am Italian ! ;)

Regards Andrea !!!
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Well looks like you'll have some real "market research" from that other company
because their releasing a LightRoom like application for linux (not free).
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we want photoshop for linux! give us updates on https://getsatisfaction.com/adobe/top... last official response is 10 months ago!!!

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Photoshop for Linux.
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Could that request possibly have been expressed more politely?
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12,534 responses in http://gsfn.us/t/2n2ux . .. How many interested clients you need more to say is a too small request?
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As many other posts and questions have stated, Adobe software needs to be ported to Linux.

There have been forum threads and ideas voted upon and haven't amounted to anything, with a common excuse of "Linux users don't want to pay for software" which is completely false. Take a look at EVERY Humble Indie Bundle and look at what group paid the most for their software.

Adobe doesn't want to invest into this because they don't think there is a market for it. Users don't want to purchase Adobe software that doesn't run on their OS, so it's just a vicious cycle.

The solution is quite easy. Start a Kickstarter (or equivalent) campaign already. This way if you can't get the funding you need, then you don't have to commit any developers' time.

To make this more effective, start with a single product instead of the entire suite. I would recommend you start with Photoshop as it would grab the most attention.

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The Solution to the Adobe software on Linux dilema..
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Your point is excellent! The Kickstarter idea is quite good and it will really show Adobe if it's worth the work!
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Hi,

me as a web developer and templater have the problem, that i develop web applications on Linux. The designer uses Photoshop on Windows to create the designs for the webpages.
It would be mind blowing to get Photoshop run on Linux operating system, to fill the big gap between the designers and the people that are actually realise there ideas. In this time i have to switch between the two operating systems to cut the design into little parts and switch to Linux to get them all into the final webpage.
This is not only a workflow problem, but also can be very frustrating, if you forget something important and have to switch over to windows again.

Greetings from Germany

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i love to could use illustrator on GNU/Linux, it's the only software i use on windows (with some other cs products)

please make a linux versin of adobe CS :)

cheers.
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I'm here because Apple removed the 17 inch laptop without telling us professionals a thing about it. Apple has become an unstable company for professionals and I need to switch to Linux because I trust Microsoft even less than I do Apple.

Adobe, it's time for you to be revolutionary again. Bring Creative Suite to Linux and we will purchase it.
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Linux is a great platform that makes better use of properly configured hardware than either Windows or OSX, yet an application that would seriously benefit from that doesn't take advantage of the Linux platform. In a time when many game makers are starting to look in Linux's direction, and the travesty that is Windows 8 threatens to derail Microsoft's desktop dominance, now would be the perfect time to bring Photoshop to Linux.

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Why is there no Photoshop for Linux?.
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How about this, Adobe ... Photoshop Elements 10 is very close to running with the WINE compatibility layer, but there are still enough problems with the installation to keep even veteran users away (pros will want a package that installs and runs as smoothly as it would under Windows). Furthermore, PSE10 tends to crash when certain tools are selected. See http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager... for a list of current problems.
Now if Adobe would just commit resources to ensure that PSE10 and CS6 (which also has a "silver" rating) run as expected, you would never have to worry about porting these application to another platform, and you would most definitely help boost sales. My point is, work with WINE and watch your sales grow. And it'll be cheaper than re-writing the app.
There are many ways you can approach this: provide patches for existing software so they may run under WINE, or better yet work with the WINE devs so that they can change their program to better accomodate Photoshop. This could easily be done in less than three months if you just say you'll do it.
Sure, VMware and Virtualbox are sure bets to run anything- but you need to load the whole **** OS and pre-allocate resources. This isn't always good for mobile computers or the typical desktop (I don't care how efficient they came to be).

I already own a version of PSE but will not be buying a new one if it doesn't find a way to run under Linux.
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I've been waiting for years for Photoshop and now Lightroom to come to Linux. But all I keep seeing is this Chris Cox employee shooting down the idea based on market research. Dan Tull seems to make a good point that in looking at the research on WINE requests for support Photoshop is #1 in applications and software excluding games. You look on here about photographers telling their story and how much we want to use Linux and Adobe products.

With Windows 8 around the corner and how terribly crappy it looks for Windows professional power users I can only imagine that more and more photographers and creative professionals will be looking to change OS.

I also hate to see the argument that there are too many flavors of Linux out there. Pick one and support it only. I think there would be an agreement of Ubuntu for the Linux OS of choice. If you told a linux user if they had to use Ubuntu they could get their Photoshop and Lightroom to work I am 99.9% sure they would be okay with that.

Add me to the marketing research that says I would pay for Adobe products on Linux.
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Quote: » But all I keep seeing is this Chris Cox employee shooting down the idea based on market research.«
Check out Photoshop’s splash screen to verify he is an employee who probably knows very well what he is talking about when he talks Photoshop.
I guess some of his colleagues may not be inclined to bother and communicate with so many consumers directly, but that he takes the time to (again and again) comment on this issue seems rather accommodating of him.
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We are moving from Windows to ubuntu..we are group of graphic desiger extensive users of adobe product. I hope adobe will think porting its software to Linux environment...

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Can you please start support for Linux..Specially ubuntu???.
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I have my own web agency and would love if you ported photoshop to linux.
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Lack of photoshop on linux is the only thing keeping me on windows at this point. Everything else I want is already there. Adobe, why not start a kickstarter or indiegogo campaign to fund a port? It woud be a much more accurate indicator of the community than any market research and you don't have to start or pay for development until you get the dollar amount you set. Just my 2 cents.
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If you want to show support for Linux, and prove that it is a platform that Adobe can succeed on with products like Photoshop, support Steam for Linux! If Adobe sees that Steam is successful and profitable, perhaps they will be convinced that Photoshop could succeed as well.

Valve's Linux blog:
http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/
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Oh, I intend too. I've been waiting patiently. Steam on linux is icing on my cake. Gauging the support of linux through steam is a good step. A kickstarter or indiegogo campaign lets users directly put their money where their mouth is and should be very attractive to Adobe since they would not have to pay for the development themselves.
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Assuming they don't set a ridiculous amount for their goal and pledge levels that is.
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they are now favorite for Microsoft and Apple is against their products.
so why not they are trying to port it Linux...

we are migrating lots of Desktop to ubuntu...
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Read Chris Cox's comments above, and you'll see why Adobe is trepidacious ( to say the least) with bringing a product like Photoshop to Linux. For a TL;DR,

1) Unproven market. No evidence to really show that Linux users will pay for professional software. Porting Photoshop to Linux is no small task, and Adobe would need substantial evidence that a profit could be made by porting Photoshop over to Linux.

2) Unstable desktop environment. GNOME 3 is a...controversial desktop, and new forks pop up every other month. The tools just aren't standardized (or mature, in some cases) enough to be used for something like Photoshop.

3) User mentality. This ties into point 1, but Linux users are not used to/philosophically opposed to proprietary software that costs money. Ever since I switched to Linux, I've always asked the question "What open source program can I use to do the same thing I would do in a program I would pay for?" I'm sure I'm not the only one.
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#1: I pay for several programs that I run on Linux including CrashPlan and IntelliJ IDEA. I also pay for Windows, which I need, in order to run my full-price-paid copy of Photoshop on Linux, meaning that I'm paying extra, right now, to run Photoshop on my Linux desktop (albeit in a virtual Windows machine). I am currently holding off on purchasing Finale (another $600 product) because it will not run on Linux and running it in a virtual machine is a pain.

#2: The GTK+ toolkit works on all desktop environments (Windows, Mac, Linux) and has for over a decade. Granted, it would be a huge undertaking for Adobe to switch. But they would rid themselves of their Microsoft ball-and-chain. I'm sure they are rapidly updating their software to "work" with Windows 8 right now - as much as anything can work with Windows 8 (remember Vista anyone?). The one hang-up here might be the GPL and distributing the GTK+ code separately. Hmm... I think there was a recent court ruling that you couldn't copyright or maybe patent an interface, so desigining a tookit based on the GTK interface would at least be a starting point... It could be done under the Apache license, to maybe leverage some crowd-sourcing, but that's not a silver bullet either - still lots of work. I might have to cede point #2 to you for now. But the fact that the GTK has cracked this nut for so long means it's crackable. Open-source provides as much a resource (in the form of testing and even coding under a proprietary-code-friendly license such as Apache 2.0) as it may take away in profit from the Everything-Is-Free-Beer mentality of some users. It's a double-edged sword.

#3: I think the Linux user scene is changing. Less and less technical people are using it, many who couldn't care less about Free Software. If you consider Android to be Linux, then the fact that it has the largest share of the phone OS market and that smart-phones have already overtaken desktop sales, means that most people are using Linux now, often as their primary OS.

My assumption is that Adobe have seen the writing on the wall and are working on Linux compatibility as we speak. But then, I always thought they supported Windows because it was the most popular operating system and am just assuming they will continue to support whatever the most popular OS may be. Heck, Microsoft themselves are porting one of their flagship products, Office, to the web so that it can presumably be accessed equally well from any OS. It's the first Microsoft product I've looked forward to paying for in a long, long time.
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1) Really the only recent info would be the Humble Bundles. It's been proven time and time again that Linux users are willing to pay more. But mind you this is only ~$15. I do believe that Steam will prove to be a success and that it may sway Adobe's mind. OSX is really BSD plus a microkernel plus their proprietary API, etc. Porting would not be as big of a deal as you may think. I don't think the devs would actually mind working on this, it's probably just investors not wanting to do this, or I could be wrong and they could all be Mac fanboys. [Not saying Apple makes you a fanboy]

2) They really should use Qt. It's crossplatform and very extensible. It works great across all Desktop environments. Using something like Qt would make this point completely invalid.

3) This may be the case for personal use, but for people/businesses who use this software for a profit, there really are features that open-source software, as good as it is, are missing.

On a completely different note. I think many applications should adopt a new model. Release the base application with only Core features for a lower price, and promote extra plugins at a cost. This would also allow independent devs a platform to generate revenue, and would allow novice users to start using a higher end piece of software without having to shell out $700. I do think this would also decrease the amount of piracy there would be against applications. Obviously not eliminate, but would have an impact.
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I do like paying only for features that I use type model.
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Steam ? why support steam to have phosotshop and illustrator ??
Steam is for video, personnally i never do any video, then ...

i think this argument ridiculous.
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Many companies I'm sure are thinking about Linux support, but don't want to be the ones to spend the money and take the risk. Valve is willing to do so. Steam is going to be the guage. If it's successful, other companies will follow. If it is not successful, many companies will move on.
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Again, if you want a gauge of how much your software is in demand for a particular platform, try a kickstarter or indiegogo fundraising campaign. Steam is not an accurate gauge and we already know that there is tremendous interest in it. Also, it's just games on steam for the time being though not much longer. Plus, a successful fundraising campaign can cover or significantly offset your dev costs where as looking at a successful steam port or paying for market research will not.
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I agree with the Kickstarter or IndieGoGo campaign, that's what I'd do. I didn't mean that Steam would guage how well CS would do on Linux, but rather how companies will use Steam as guage whether a company could be successful on Linux or not. Do I think that's the right thing to do, no. But I'm sure that's how other companies will validate taking a stab at Linux or not.
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yeah, I agree with you there. It will be interesting to see what happens with steam. Many of my games on steam already work on linux thanks to the humble bundles.
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I just learned that Photoshop is programed in Qt (http://qt.nokia.com/qt-in-use/story/a....
Since Qt is multi-platform, why can't Adobe just offer a Linux version of Elements, maybe by promoting via the HumbleBundle (http://www.humblebundle.com/)?
That would be absolutely thrilling!!

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Photoshop Elements for Linux!?.
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Photoshop does not use Qt in any way.

Only the discontinued program Album used to use Qt (and found it pretty poor, and not nearly as portable as claimed).
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Who knows if or when Adobe will port Photoshop / Elements to Linux. The GIMP is not currently a subsititute for either of these programs (although 16-bits per channel editing is on it's way in GIMP ... a while from now, maybe not until version 3).
As things stand you can get Corel Aftershot Pro (which is a re-branded Bibble) for your workflow (it handles many RAW, and JPEG and TIFF images as input) and use it in conjunction with ImageMagick (if necessary). Aftershot Pro is available in 32- and 64- bits RPM and DEB formats at the Corel website. Registration cost me $55. ImageMagick is free and available in nearly all distro's repositories.
I'm just starting out with Ubuntu Linux so I haven't really any experiences to relate. But from the many tidbits I found on Google, it appears to be doing excellent service for many photographers who choose Linux.
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Just a heads up, Adobe. You guys might want to start supporting Linux, like you should have done years ago. GIMP development is picking up. Without a crystal ball, its not too hard to guess that the growing user base of Linux users stuck with GIMP and no Photoshop (unless you count buggy WINE) is going to cause the demand for GIMP to increase. You've already lost your Flash market. If you don't want to start losing small portions of Photohop user, you'll port to Linux before they start migrating to GIMP.

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Photoshop on Linux, many questions, let see if we can get a solution.
Lets make a pre-sale event where linux user will be asked to purchase a "future release" of photoshop for linux they will insert real credit card information. A "budget expense" goal gets posted and if it gets reached, then the user will be charged and receive a email with download information and serial number. How does it sounds.

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Photoshop for linux proposal.
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I have been buying and upgrading Photoshop and Premiere Elements every year and it's a great consumer product from experience. However, I have finally 'ditched' Windows! Is Adobe likely to release versions that will also run on Linux (Ubuntu) any time soon? Or shall I ditch Adobe too?!!

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Photoshop and Premiere Elements for Linux.
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Missing all Adobe products on LINUX or at least on UBUNTU. Many of us gets furious about MS Windows OS-es. I am not alone who wants this. We have been just waiting for years for this opportunity.

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