Adobe Sensei generated keywords in Lightroom CC - where are they?

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After reading about Lightroom CC: "...leveraging the power of Adobe Sensei to automatically tag and keyword your images for you." I immediately installed the new version as I thought it would make submitting to Adobe Stock much quicker. But no matter how I try, I cannot find any automatically generated keywords! Where are they?And the "sync" to the cloud totally screwed up my Lightroom catalogues so after several hours of trying to bring order to the chaos I deleted everything and started over. Luckily I had only imported around 500 images in Lightroom so I didn't lose much but still quite boring! 
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Where did you read that? Sensei does suggests keywords for Adobe Stock when you use the Adobe Stock publishing service in Lightroom Classic. And it makes it possible to search for images in Lightroom CC without having the search term assigned as keyword. But I don't think it will generate keywords and populate the keyword field in Lightroom CC.
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BTW, what do you mean by: "Sensei does suggests keywords for Adobe Stock when you use the Adobe Stock publishing service in Lightroom Classic"? I started tagging images for Adobe Stock in Lightroom some time ago but it was so time consuming that I gave up. I never got any keyword suggestions...
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Now I found Adobe Stock under "Publishing Services". I thought "Publishing Services" was only for postin to social media like FaceBook!
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Mind you: The Sensei keyword suggestions come up after you've uploaded the images and switch to your browser to finish the submission, not inside Lightroom Classic itself (and so they don't populate the keyword field in Classic either). That's because Sensei is cloud based.
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Aha! I thought the service was integrated in Lightroom. Implementing auto-keywording in this way makes sense from Adobe's point of view. If it was available in Lightroom it would also simplify uploading to competing stock agencies! ;)
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I read it on this page: https://blogs.adobe.com/photoshop/2017/10/introducing-lightroom-cc-lightroom-classic-cc-and-more.html
But that page is not available at the moment. Maybe someone is re-writing the info!
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The blog page loads very slowly but here is the full text...
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It's up again and it's indeed a bit confusing. They say that Sensei 'tags and keywords', but they don't say that Sensei populates the keyword field. They say you can manually add keywords there yourself.
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Yes, it is confusing and I interpreted this as if Sensei will provide some basic keywords and I can add more specific and detailed keywords. There are several stock sites that offer a similar service which saves a lot of time so I was not surprised that this was part of Lightroom CC. I am more surprised that it is NOT included!
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If I didn't know better, that's how I would read it too.
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I had the impression that Adobe Sensei would help me tag my collections, too.
Looks like I was jumping the gun.
The Ideal Workflow to me would look something like this:
  1. Take Photo
  2. Import to Lightroom CC (LRCC)
  3. Basic Editing with LRCC
  4. Key-wording with the help of Sensei and a custom keyword library
    (ideally imported from LR Classic WITH HIERARCHY)
  5. Finishing touches with LR Classic
  6. ....Profit
This workflow, especially the keyword tagging  would be highly beneficial and time saving.

Right now the only way to have keywords from LRCC show up in LR Classic, is to export them again/save them with LRCC and then re-import them to LRClassic. Pretty messy and unintuitive.

Since Senseis picture recognition algorithm is kind of wonky, it is not so much of a helping hand as I would like it to be, but this will surely improve over time.

Right now LRCC is not much more than a glorified Lightroom Mobile with little benefit ( to my workflow).

In conclusion:
  • Make Sensei picture recognition work more reliable.
  • Make Sensei suggest keywords and apply them to the file.
  • Make LRCC keywords readable by LR Classic.
  • Make LRCC able to use (hierarchical) Keyword libraries from LR Classic.
But I feel we are on the right track.
Oh and just so you know, I'm not a cloud fan at all so my interest in LRCC is not related to anything "cloudy".
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A workflow like you suggest is what I hope for! For the time being I decided to try the LR plugin MyKeyworder. Installed two days ago and it works quite well and has some extra features like synonyms! It is, however not free, but the cost is not prohibitive! 
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