Photoshop 2020: Problems with new Warp-Tool...

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Hi! There is a really strange Bug in the new Warp-Tool!

If I use a Pixel-Layer and try to pull down the handle, then the Edge get twistet...
This happens on Pixel-Layers only with Shape-Layers it's working like expected!

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Christian

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Jeffrey Tranberry, Sr. Product Manager, Digital Imaging

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It looks like you're creating a 3x3 grid when really you just want the original default.

When adding the quilt warp feature the team removed the interior isolines from the 1x1 case because it became inconsistent and confusing as well as way too busy visually.

The solution is just use the default (don't make a grid) and you'll get the previous behavior. 
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dan richards

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Previously, the warp tool showed the "mesh" in a 3 x 3 grid so you could actively see what the warp was doing even if the smart object you were warping was a solid color....For my workflow the NOW MISSING mesh grid is extremely important, to know if the interior mesh lines were bent even though the exterior lines were straight. But now that it's gone, there's no telling what's going on with the mesh on the "inside" of the distortion...just the outer edges. The new "default" setting is what I need but with the blanket grid showing. (not the new option to choose the type of grid because that warps the individual grid lines separately). There isn't an option to show the mesh?
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Dan, I just jumped into 2020 (to hopefully avoid bugs with the initial roll-out) but I'm having the same problem. I do a lot of very precise label wraps on cylindrical surfaces and I relied on, as Jeffrey calls them, the interior isolines. My current work-around is overall quite inconvenient, but it works:

Any object intended for a Warp Transform is turned into a smart layer. Within that smart layer, I add my own 3x3 grid, or simple square grid. I do my transform as usual. Then I go back into the smart object and turn off my grid.

I had a lot of quibbles with the 2019 and earlier Warp tool and had always hoped for some simple changes to make my life wrapping labels easier. While the 2020 tool's new abilities are truly fantastic, it takes a step in the wrong way for my production work!
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I would go so far as to say that the CC 2020 Warp function »improvements« missed the point of the existing Feature Requests on improving Photoshop’s Warp fairly badly. 
That a point’s handles snap to 90 ̊ angles relative to each other at editing negates the whole improvement in my opinion and prolongs its inferiority compared to Illustrator’s Envelope Distort. 
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dan richards

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Bruce, I have had to fall back on the manual grid method as well on my Smart Object labels. It is now the only way to accurately work with the new Warp tool. The updated tool became completely inefficient at doing production label wrap work. Even with utilizing the grid, it takes a lot of minor tweeks back and forth on each side to eventually get everything where it should be.
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Christian

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yes that's right! The Default is like the previous behavior!

But anyway the new Warping is not working correctly!
It makes no sense if its get twisted if I pull down the Handle (like in the Example)...

This needs to be corrected!
With Shape-Layers its working correctly like it should!!!
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Jeffrey Tranberry, Sr. Product Manager, Digital Imaging

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As stated from engineer, this is by design with the new warp.
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Christian

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That could just be a joke???
It's make no Sense!!!
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Paul Davies

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This is what i posted in a separate stream and was directed here - to see exactly the same problem.
They have thrown out the standard warp and replaced it with trash. The warp tool needed a refresh, not a replacement.

Step 1. Retain original guides as standard (legacy)
Step 2. Add features like selecting multiple handles and or points to drag in unison.
Step 3. Add feature of more points to warp - but don't mess with the way they work, just add more of them.
Step 4. Do not lock the points so two have to work together. Add a modifier key to be able to move points separately as per pen tool.

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It's no good guys, for some reason they have just implemented teh warp tool from illustrator rather than improve the transform warp tool in photoshop. You will notice that you cannot adjust points on the outer edges without them spinning and warping areas you don't want to warp. They have added four bezier points instead of two which creates a warp in all directions instead of being able to control the shape as previous.
They have also gotten rid of the guide lines on the default mode which are essential to a standard warp - if you want guide, you get extra points which you didn't ask for.

I don't know how to make it appear as legacy mode, but I am using 2018 until they fix it.
Once again Adobe throws out the old, but this time implements old tech (illustrator warp) to solve a problem which has been clearly documented and plenty of forward thinking posts to give advice of what is useful for the people who actually use this program.

Thanks for nothing photoshop team, for getting my hopes up that you listened to anyone in the forums at all.

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YES! It's ridiculous to have changed the "default" to NOT have the interior guides, grid, mesh, to see how the object is being affected. Go ahead and add the other grid options, but the default needs to stay the same to be useful.
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If you have tried warping the edges, the problem there is unbelievable. They have four handles but you can't change the inside without warping the outside.
The only thing i wanted to change about the transform tool was the ability to move multiple handles at once to help with wrapping labels on bottles and keeping the horizontal and vertical movements consistent. But throwing the whole thing out is their fix apparently...
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»It's no good guys, for some reason they have just implemented teh warp tool from illustrator«
Actually the Envelope Distort in Illustrator allows for the angle of the handles to be changed manually, in Photoshop the handles appear to be fixed at 90.
Which would restrict the achievable editing effects terribly. 

Even worse: When inserting a new line the resulting angles may be at whatever value (and stay at that angle when moving the point), but once one drags one of the four handles they apparently snap to 90 ̊. 

Or have I just missed something?  
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Hi Christian,
We are able to reproduce the difference in behavior you described between Pixel and Vector layer. We're looking into it.
Thanks,
Meredith
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Christian

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ok, thank you so much! :-)

I'm using the Warp-Tool daily for my Work, and it finally becomes a dream come true if the tool works as expected as an addition to the old warp-Tool with more Columns and Rows :-)
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Any progress on this? Please, please, please, please bring back the old warp tool....please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ana Vogel

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After installing Catalina (temporary lapse of good judgement), my troubles got much worse. I thought that having subscription based software would be safe regarding compatibility issues, well, I was wrong. Long story short, I lost 2 days of work, had to wipe my system, downgrade to Mojave to even get my desktop computer to run properly, but the upside is that I re-installed Photoshop 2019 instead of 2020 and now I have my warp tool back. Hopefully they will fix all this soon. Suffice to say that I won't be upgrading to Catalina for a very loooooooooooong time.  
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Christian

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Any News on this Problem???
I can't use the Warping anymore, I have to use the older Photoshop!!! Please fix this finally!!!

The Warping is completely unusable!!!
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Ana Vogel

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Agreed! Any update on this? I am hesitant to install the 2020 version as I use the 2019 on a daily basis for work. Can you simply give the same warp functions to the basic warp and keep the additional features for those who like the new warp function? A win-win for all involved!
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damn i had just the same problem 2 days ago and i just abandoned the project.. wish i should have done a bit of research first. Photoshop does sometimes make me worry a bit.. Thanks for the solution though.. will be helpful for future projects :)
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