Photoshop: Add "clear" button for eyedropper tool.

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The color sampler tool has a "clear" button to clear all the sample points. Please add the same feature to the regular eyedropper tool.

Thanks!

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Paul Zahorosky

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Chris Cox

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The eyedropper tool doesn't have anything to clear - so it does not need such a button.
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Paul Zahorosky

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Um, the eyedropper tool has sample points just like the color sampler tool.



So, yes, it does need a clear button.

It may be color sample points generated, but it is done so using the standard eyedropper and not necessarily the color sampler. The main problem is I can't get to the "clear" option from one keyboard short. It's either a long-click or multiple keyboard shortcuts to get to the color sampler and then the "clear" button. This is why I think the standard eyedropper tool needs the same "clear" button. I can't think of any reason why the "clear" button shouldn't bee on the standard eyedropper tool.
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Again, you can create the sampler points with many tools. But the sampler points belong to the color sampler tool. Adding commands for color samplers to other tools just because you can sometimes do something with the sampler points in that other tool makes no sense. It's about like asking for a fish finder to be added to your truck, just because the truck can tow a boat on a trailer.

So, if it's ok with you, why don't we change the request to "a menu item to clear color samplers so it can have a keyboard shortcut and be played from actions"?
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Paul Zahorosky

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Could you please enlighten me as to which tools other than the eyedropper and color sampler can be used to create color sample points? I cannot find any option in PS or documentation to support this. You are correct that the sample points are visible when using some other tools, but I don't see any way to add, edit, or erase these points with any tool other than the eyedropper or color sampler.

Your "fish finder" analogy is totally off-base and unnecessary.

If a menu item is easier to implement than a button, I suppose that would work as the Configurator and Keyboard Shortcuts should be able to find that option. I do, however, stick with my original suggestion that a native "clear" button in the eyedropper options would be ideal.

Thanks.
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I'm trying to find a simple way to explain why your button request is really off base, and my analogy is pretty spot-on.

Adding a button to places where it doesn't belong is not a good idea. But we could add a menu item somewhere to clear the sampler points. If you want to stick with the original button request, then we can just mark this as "not a chance" and end the discussion.
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Paul Zahorosky

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Chris,

Your analogy more closely resembles "I want a 'clear' button for one tiny tool within one minuscule program, so let's put a big red button next to the power button on the laptop to achieve this". So, no, it doesn't relate to my concern at all.

Is this seriously how you handle legitimate suggestions? Let me break this down to you in simple terms:

- There are two places to create sample points.
1. Color Sample Tool
2. Eyedropper Tool

- There is one single place with a 1-click button to clear those points.
1. Color Sample Tool

The one single place with the 1-click clear button is nested in the slightly-harder-to-get-to tool.

Perhaps we should mark this as "Adobe doesn't get it" instead? That would be a rubber stamp that would we well worn down by now.
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Again, your suggestion for a button in the eyedropper tool does not make sense. I have tried to explain that repeatedly. We understand the request, but you don't seem to understand that your request does not make sense.

You seem to be trying to accomplish a goal of making it easier to clear the samplers. But your initial suggestion of how to achieve that goal was not useful. If you wish to have a menu item, then we can see about doing that. But demanding a "solution" that doesn't make sense is not helping your case.
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Paul Zahorosky

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Unless someone more useful want's to jump in on this, I'm considering this topic closed.
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Wow. Chris you seem to be misunderstanding Paul. His suggestion does make sense.

So Paul, the CLEAR button in the color sample tool does indeed remove all sample points in the file, regardless of whether they were created using the eyedropper or the color sampler tool. So that solves it. But it does seem inconsistent that the CLEAR button only exists in the color sampler tool mode.

Actually, the color sampler tool seems useless at this point. The eyedropper tool covers all the functionality that's needed.
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Sef

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Chris, are you serious? Your responses make me want to sad face :(
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Again, the request does not make sense.

The color sampler tool is not the eyedropper tool - and you are talking about adding something that belongs with the color sampler to the eyedropper tool.

If you own a car and a boat - do you put an anchor and outboard motor on the car, too?
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Not unless you have a boat car. Only then would it make sense.

But Chris you do acknowledge in both color sampler mode and eyedropper mode, one is able to drop sample points and also delete them right? Therefore it just seems inconsistent that there isn't a button to clear in both tools. I totally understand we're now debating minutiae, but I think that Paul's frustration was that you outright pwned his suggestion when it does make perfect sense.
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No, it seems consistent that the color sampler tool owns the color samplers - so it has the option to remove the color samplers.

Adding the same option to a tool that doesn't own the samplers, and isn't directly related, makes zero sense.

Again, the suggestion really does not make sense.
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Sef

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The eyedropper tool can both make and remove samplers. That seems pretty directly related to me.
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Just in case anyone wants this simple little action, here is a Dropbox link to the ATN file:

pzActions.atn via Dropbox

It also has a simple centering button as well. Just drop it in your Presets folder if you don't have any saved action files already or just load the actions separately.
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Haha.

Cool thanks man.
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Chris, I think perhaps Paul is asking you to see this from a usage perspective rather than a structural, builders perspective. For you the sample points are part of the colour sampler because that's how you built it, which is fine. Your interface however communicates otherwise - the eyedropper tool, from a user's point of view, allows you to create items that are left on the canvas, in the way sometimes, and offers no way to clear them.

The internal logic of the tool's construction aside, you miss the simple and obvious incongruity discovered by the user from the tools day to day use: you've allowed the tool a shortcut to the creation of samplers and you're absolutely and arbitrarily averse to allowing it a shortcut to to clear them. That's all the clear button would be, a handy and, for the user, logical shortcut that removes an imbalance/dissonance that exists in the regular use of your tool.

I'm also honestly shocked at the dismissive treatment of the requester.
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Wow, this thread was frustrating to read. I came here trying to figure out and ask the same thing - why can I not clear it from eyedropper?? Perhaps Adobe needs to really listen to their users instead of being stuck in a code cloud. Just because you built it that way, doesn't mean it always makes the most sense. Your clients are the ones you look to for suggestions on tweaking it to make it perfect. Dismissiveness at its best on this thread. :-(

To Paul and the others, thank you for trying and the additional action. YOU were helpful to me today for the same original reason Paul posted.
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If you want to assign a keyboard shortcut for "Clear All" color samplers, download this script: http://adobe.ly/1CdtXjv

1. Install it in Applications>Adobe Photoshop CC 2014>Presets>Scripts
2. Restart Photoshop
3. The script will appear under File>Scripts>
4. Edit>Keyboard Shortcuts... and add whatever keyboard shortcut for the script you'd like
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Same problem here. I had created multiple Color Sampler points and had no idea how to remove them. I've never used the Color Sampler Tool, hence how could I guess that to clear all the points created by the Eyedropper Tool I had to switch to Color Sampler Tool and then use the 'clear all' button? It makes absolutely no sense, from a user's point of view.
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Again, we can think about adding a menu item to clear the color samplers, but adding a command to a tool that doesn't own the samplers does not maker sense (kind of like putting NASA in charge of drivers licenses).
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Chris... you and your analogies.
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I used the Eyedropper Tool, and accidentally used the shift key a couple of times (a habit from Illustrator). All of the sudden I had a couple of some measuring points that I didn’t know what were for, AND I couldn’t get rid of them.
The only logical solution was to find the ‘clear all’ button, which unfortunately I could not locate anywhere.
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Hello.

I read the thread and the comments from Chris and Jeffrey.

This morning on a heavy loaded image where it was a PITA to see the color samples see here:
I though I remembered a way to remove the samples at once.

I didn't find it in the menus, I didn't find it in the information panel's dropdown, I didn't find it by right clicking on a sample in this panel.

So I frustratedly found and alt-shift-clicked each sample (I was even starting to regret that we have now 10 vs 4 before). Then I digged to find this thread.

If I may :

- I can understand you don't want anything next to the eyedropper tool.
- I discovered the color sampler tool (I never noticed it in (almost) 25 years of Photoshop) this morning.
- I'd appreciate the clear option to be present in the dropdown menu of the info panel
- I'd appreciate a "clear that sample" directly on a right/ctrl clic on a color sample value in the panel.
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I knew there was a way to get rid of them I just couldn't remember the exact keystroke to do it. I've been play around for days now and I never think of the easiest thing first. If you hold alt+shift down on a PC, while hovering over a color sampler icon on your image, it will change the icon to a pair of scissors. Left click while still holding down the alt+shift keys and it will remove the color sample icons from your image. I hope I typed that where it will make sense. If someone wants to try this on a Mac, I'm assuming it would be option+shift, please feel free to and report back here. I hope this helps. Take care all... Also holding the shift or cmd (mac)/ctrl (pc) key will allow you to move the color samples around, just noticed that...