Lightroom Classic: Add the possibility to disable full image preset preview

  • 108
  • Idea
  • Updated 7 months ago
  • Implemented
  • (Edited)
In the latest update, full image preview has been added when hovering presets.
While this is fantastic and really useful most of the time, when handling large files like stitched panoramas, my computer crawls to a stop as my 7700K is maxed out for each preset.
Could it be possible to disable that in the settings for such case ?
Thanks
Photo of T1r1

T1r1

  • 1 Post
  • 0 Reply Likes

Posted 12 months ago

  • 108
Photo of Rob Sylvan

Rob Sylvan, Champion

  • 15 Posts
  • 14 Reply Likes
I think that is a good idea.
Photo of Jure Ursic

Jure Ursic

  • 20 Posts
  • 9 Reply Likes
This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Lightroom Classic 7.3: Presets preview slowing down.

Hey there

Recently I update the Lightroom. And I have a massive issue with speed performance. Basically, you guys change in develop module presets preview. When I hover my mouse above presets its start loading preset preview straight away on the main editing picture.

Specification of my computer is MacBook Pro (15-inch, 2017), 3.1 GHz Intel Core i7, 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3. What I think is the latest from Apple.

I don't mind if this future is there for better-performing computers but if slowing down latest Apple laptop product then should be some options to shut down this future and only have the normal preview in the left top corner as in privius version.

If maybe someone knows where can be switch off this future I will really appreciate the help? I speak with one of the agents via online conversation from Adobe and he told me that I should return to an older version of Lightroom. But I like this colour profiles and all this jazz that they put together so I'm looking for a solution from the development team.

Best regards

Jure
Photo of Rick Spaulding

Rick Spaulding, Champion

  • 564 Posts
  • 231 Reply Likes
Great idea! I merged your post to this thread so your vote will get counted with the rest.
Photo of Corey Dregier

Corey Dregier

  • 1 Post
  • 1 Reply Like
I need there to be an off switch too! It's incredibly distracting :| 
Photo of Dan Webb

Dan Webb

  • 2 Posts
  • 1 Reply Like
The new feature is not disengaging once my mouse moves off a preset.  It leaves the main edit window with a FALSE image of a preset NOT selected.  To make things worse some random presets are enabling while trying to use a tool on the opposite side of the Develop module and not disabling.  This is causing the edit window to NOT represent the actual edits to an image.    For example my edit window will show a B/W image even though I am hovering over the image and exporting.  The thumbnail will be color and the exported image will be color but the view in the edit image will be STUCK to B/W.  I've also experienced the image suddenly change to a preset image when swapping to full screen "F" and back.  I would really love to have an option to turn this feature OFF.  Thank You
Photo of Cameron Braun

Cameron Braun

  • 17 Posts
  • 19 Reply Likes
This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Turn off Live Preview of presets in Lightroom Classic CC 7.3.

The new Live Preview of presets (when hovering over the preset) is great, and a feature that many have requested. Unfortunately it was released without an option to turn it off. It uses massive system resources to draw these live previews with every mouse over, and it's slowing things down.
Please just include a check box in the preferences dialog box to turn it off!
Photo of Rick Spaulding

Rick Spaulding, Champion

  • 564 Posts
  • 231 Reply Likes
Great idea! I merged your post to this thread so your vote will get counted with the rest.
Photo of Andy Hasak

Andy Hasak

  • 13 Posts
  • 8 Reply Likes
Definitely needs to be implemented.
Photo of Rick McNelly

Rick McNelly

  • 6 Posts
  • 5 Reply Likes
Please offer the ability to turn off preview on the main window when hovering over the preset name.  I'm using a top spec'd Late 2016 15" MacBook Pro Touch Bar w/Radeon Pro 455 GPU, and LrCCC quickly slows down as you scroll thru presets and it has to render the main screen for each one.  This is crazy.  The laptop gets hot quickly and the fans spin up.  Between this and the issue with the presets, I'm looking at downgrading to the previous version until Adobe fixes these problems.
Photo of Armin Staudt

Armin Staudt

  • 60 Posts
  • 28 Reply Likes
Yes please, just add a little button to disable this great feature
Photo of Rick Spaulding

Rick Spaulding, Champion

  • 564 Posts
  • 231 Reply Likes
Don't forget to click the "Vote" box at the top of the page! 
Photo of CryptoStreak

CryptoStreak

  • 3 Posts
  • 3 Reply Likes
This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Lightroom Classic - Allow preview of profiles and presets to be turned off..

Lightroom 7.3 update / overlaying presets over selected image rather than navigation window is terrible, and theres no way to turn/toggle this new development off. Slows down workflow and is immensely irritating. - Forced to revert to LR 7.2

Solution - DEVELOP toggle ON/OFF for this function.
Photo of ootophoto

ootophoto

  • 5 Posts
  • 5 Reply Likes
I agree, there needs to be a disable switch for this. Besides bogging down my system and Lightroom, it confuses me into thinking I've already applied the preset which can seriously mess up my pro work flow on weddings.
Photo of jbedford

jbedford

  • 138 Posts
  • 31 Reply Likes
I wonder sometimes if these 'improvements' are implemented for their user base or simply made for Adobe's investors to feel like apps are constantly 'improving'...

As a power LR user, I feel the dehaze slider should have always been located beside the clarity slider. Adding Adobe profiles above other panels is imposing, and preview rollovers (the ones being addressed in this thread) are frivolous. Not much of an update if you ask me (which no one did :). 
Photo of Michał Chojnacki

Michał Chojnacki

  • 1 Post
  • 3 Reply Likes
We definitely need and option to turn off preview! My workflow was cut in half because of how slow it makes my mac...
Photo of Dallas  Dahms

Dallas Dahms

  • 9 Posts
  • 23 Reply Likes
200% need to switch this off! When I am running through my normal presets on jobs the machine is battling to keep up and also I can't keep track of what I have already applied when I accidentally hover over a preset I don't want to use. It's messing up my workflow badly. 
Photo of Jonathan Jones

Jonathan Jones

  • 2 Posts
  • 4 Reply Likes
Completely agree - I have a bunch of presets that I want available but rarely use, and now when I scroll up and down the list my computer wastes time and CPU effort trying to preview all.  Because the scroll bar is on the left, the only way to avoid this is to very carefully navigate the mouse up and around the preset list then scroll, which is much much slower than being able to roll the scroll wheel on the mouse.  I understand that some people may find this preview behaviour invaluable, but I for one don't! Please add an option to enable / disable so we can choose.
Photo of Dallas  Dahms

Dallas Dahms

  • 9 Posts
  • 23 Reply Likes
When will this get sorted out? It shouldn't be an "idea", it should be an urgent Adobe to do NOW item since it is affecting production for countless numbers of photographers who unwittingly installed the update.

I am actually slack-jawed that they could release something so poorly implemented. 
Photo of jbedford

jbedford

  • 138 Posts
  • 31 Reply Likes
I agree, Dallas. I can’t believe the devs didn’t give the option to turn the option off. From the getgo, I was like “huh. A new feature. If it worked I ‘might’ use it but it doesn’t so where’s the off button? Oh they didn’t include one”. Unbelievable.

I’ve rolled back to 7.2 until this can get sorted.
(Edited)
Photo of Cameron Braun

Cameron Braun

  • 17 Posts
  • 19 Reply Likes
I agree, this needs to be a “fix the major bug ASAP” type of patch... but in the mean time I just downgraded to 7.2 and things are working fine. Just wait for Adobe to get things sorted before updating, similar to when a new OS version is released.
Photo of CryptoStreak

CryptoStreak

  • 3 Posts
  • 3 Reply Likes
I've also downgraded back to 7.2. smh
Photo of Kris Kuzniar

Kris Kuzniar

  • 1 Post
  • 3 Reply Likes
This is nonsense. It's a major bug. This "update" is not even an update but some kind of joke. Preset list messed up, some memory hungry previews. The worst "update" ever.
Photo of Richard Budde

Richard Budde

  • 8 Posts
  • 9 Reply Likes
This is not an error that happens under some weird set of circumstances that slipped through the cracks in testing. The person doing the programming on this feature got feedback on their screen during each and every iteration of the programming process. So too the QC folks. The results were in plain sight... not masked by the complexity of the program.

This is a glaring example that Adobe has MAJOR issues with how they go about the process of development and for sure QC. If someone in Adobe wrote a specification for the programmer as to how this feature should work, with all of the recent emphasis to improve the speed, it seems STUPID that the spec did not address speed in some manner. 

If the programmer did not raise a flag during programming to the spec writers, also STUPID.

If the QC folks did not test it out on a broad spectrum of computers (which I highly suspect from other releases they don't) and say "hey guys this ain't gonna fly with the customers" this is also very STUPID.

I guess the real QC folks (we users) did object!

You had at least two chances (programmer and QC steps) at not letting this one out the door before it was ready for users. But you blew it. When oh when will Abode learn from their mistakes of the past? Remember the definition of stupid... doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Adobe: your "process" needs serious work.
Photo of Mandos

Mandos

  • 2 Posts
  • 1 Reply Like
doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
This is actually the definition of insanity, nonetheless true to this cause.
(Edited)
Photo of Rikk Flohr

Rikk Flohr, Official Rep

  • 5023 Posts
  • 1025 Reply Likes
Official Response
We are currently looking into options that will satisfy both users who need to preview preset application in Loupe view, and those who need to disable it. The existing feature request has been around quite a while to turn this on but it is obvious further tweaking of the implementation is needed. 

To flesh this out a bit: We have a size-able group of users who like this new behavior as well as a large group for whom this is a workflow disruption. How would you prefer to see the disabling of this new behavior? 

Off by default and on by a preference setting?
The reverse (On by default and turned off by a preference setting?)
A non-preference way of activating/deactivating (button, keystroke, etc)?
Photo of Andy Astbury

Andy Astbury

  • 12 Posts
  • 14 Reply Likes
Well said Richard !
Photo of Cameron Braun

Cameron Braun

  • 17 Posts
  • 19 Reply Likes
I’m fine with on-by-default, as long as we can turn it off. A simple check box in preferences would be fine.

That said, I really like the idea of having an icon toggle at the top of the preset list next to the plus symbol. I’m sure it would be nice to use this occasionally, and a toggle would make that easy.
Photo of Rick McNelly

Rick McNelly

  • 6 Posts
  • 5 Reply Likes
Off by default, otherwise new subscribers won't understand why their laptops are so slow, or spin the fans up due to the heat.
Photo of Renato Richina

Renato Richina

  • 15 Posts
  • 2 Reply Likes
Please NOT an option in settings. Would be able to activate/deactivate this feature by a toggle/button (above the presets for example) or activating it by a keystroke. Think this way, all people would be happier than going always into the setting dialog
Photo of Jack Thorpe

Jack Thorpe

  • 4 Posts
  • 2 Reply Likes
This feature SUCKS... PLEASE turn it off or give us the option, ASAP.  My workflow along with others has come to a screeching halt.  
Photo of Andy Astbury

Andy Astbury

  • 12 Posts
  • 14 Reply Likes
Rikk

I'd say OFF by default, but I'm really so desperate for this to happen that I'd vote for a 'which ever is quicker for the dev team to roll out' option.
Photo of Armin Staudt

Armin Staudt

  • 60 Posts
  • 28 Reply Likes
just create an eye-symbol next to the plus-symbol in presetpanel to activate or deactivate the big preview
Photo of Rikk Flohr

Rikk Flohr, Official Rep

  • 5023 Posts
  • 1025 Reply Likes
Official Response
Thanks for the input, if there are some in this group that are hit particularly hard by the current behavior and would like to be part of a small limited-time test group to look at proposed behavior changes, send me a message with your Adobe ID to f l o h r at adobe.com. (but remove the spaces)
Photo of Ruggero Lauria

Ruggero Lauria

  • 2 Posts
  • 0 Reply Likes
I also saw a big general slowdown after this update, not so one thing is due. But now it is really unmanageable even just to apply a preset.
Photo of Dallas  Dahms

Dallas Dahms

  • 9 Posts
  • 23 Reply Likes
Here's the fix for this problem that was posted on the Adobe forums by F. McLion: 

1. Launch Lightroom Classic CC

2. Choose Edit > Preferences.

3. In the Preferences dialog, go the Presets tab.

4. In the Presets tab, click the Show Lightroom Presets Folder button. The root preset folder opens in the File Explorer.

5. In the File Explorer, navigate into the Lightroom folder.

6. Go to the link https://adobe.ly/2He219B and download the config.lua file. Copy the downloaded config.lua file into the Lightroom folder mentioned in the previous step. 

7. Relaunch Lightroom Classic CC.

The System Info dialog (Help > System Info) should display the config.lua flags entry as shown below, indicating that Lightroom Classic CC is now disabling the live preset preview in the loupe view:

Config.lua-Flags:
Develop.disableLoupePresetPreview = true


I can confirm that this worked for me. I have now also solved my connectivity issue (something 4 of the Adobe support staff over 4 remote sessions lasting an hour each time weren't able to do). The fix? Reboot my router...

Photo of Jay Knickerbocker

Jay Knickerbocker

  • 1 Post
  • 3 Reply Likes
This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Remove Preset Preview in LR.

It does slow down my process, because every time I hover my mouse over the left preset panel it changes the image or images when batch editing.  And sometimes it leaves the preview showing even though the preset hasn't been selected.  This causes me to have to go back over the left preset menu with my mouse to reset it, and I have to perfectly and slowly move my mouse to the right as not to preview a different preset I've created.  Please take the preset preview away.  I made my presets, I know what they look like, I don't need my hand held when selecting them.

 

I don't want LR thinking, hogging up resources, or doing anything other than what I dictate it to do with an actual click of my mouse.
Photo of Rikk Flohr

Rikk Flohr, Official Rep

  • 5023 Posts
  • 1025 Reply Likes
Official Response
Lightroom Classic CC 7.4, released today, now allows you disable this feature in the Preferences.  Download it and flip the switch!
Photo of Todd Shaner

Todd Shaner, Champion

  • 1269 Posts
  • 422 Reply Likes
Hover over Profiles has never worked correctly on my Windows 7 system. The first one or two profile previews display and then it no longer provides a preview. Running the cursor up and down the profiles eventually restores the preview, but again only for one or two profiles. Anyone else seeing this behavior? I reported this during Prerelease testing, but Adobe Engineering couldn't duplicate the issue.
Photo of Simon Chen

Simon Chen, Principal Computer Scientist

  • 1551 Posts
  • 502 Reply Likes
When the Profile browser is shown, you can press down the Option/Alt modifier key to temporarily turn off the profile preview in the loupe. This allows you to do a quick before/after comparison without moving the mouse.
Photo of eartho

eartho, Champion

  • 1029 Posts
  • 301 Reply Likes
Right on. Thank you Simon!
Photo of Marius Volden

Marius Volden

  • 3 Posts
  • 0 Reply Likes
I think this should be a thing, or making the loupepreview available while holding down shift\ctrl\alt\ctrl+alt\ctrl+shift\whatever.

https://imgur.com/tb64PC8

Its nice to have on when trying to find a preset that works with the image, but after that its annoying as h*** to bring the cursor to the left screen seeing the image gets another preset slapped on unintentional... and worst part is that most of the time it doesnt go away after the corsor leaves the preset.
(Edited)
Photo of Rick McNelly

Rick McNelly

  • 6 Posts
  • 5 Reply Likes
I just downloaded the latest version released today and disabled the hover preview in preferences.  This solved the problem but the Navigator pane preview is much slower than 7.2.  VERY laggy to scroll through Presets watching the preview in the smaller Navigator window.  This is on a late 2016 15" MacBook Pro 2.7GHz i7, w/Radeon Pro 455 and 16GB RAM.