While this is fantastic and really useful most of the time, when handling large files like stitched panoramas, my computer crawls to a stop as my 7700K is maxed out for each preset.
Could it be possible to disable that in the settings for such case ?
Thanks
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Also, and obviously, holding down the Alt/Option key for temporary fullsize preview would be useful. And I guess a switch for people who want it on all the time. Sure. But don't be messing with my image just because I moved the mouse.
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Short description: before and after. Before latest LR update presets previews was only in small navigator window. After latest update presets previews are also showing in big main develop window and this making one problem.
In general I like new update of
Lightroom Classic. Idea that when I put mouse over preset name I see not
only small but also big preview is good.
But generating big
preview for my big monitor takes too much time. I want to scroll mouse
over lots of presets and see fast previews. But right now I put mouse
and wait, then move and wait, and again. Finally I want to turn off this
big previews, I'm happy enough with fast previews in navigator, but I
can't do this.
Please make some checkbox in settings to turn it off. Or
make big previews faster generation. For example with some increasing
resolution algorithm. Like low details and very fast at first time, but
if mouse is staying at this preset then more resolution and more
detailed preview generation.
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And one special creative idea for presets. :)
I know that many photographers has lots of presets like several hundred. Sorting and previewing is still a problem. I want to ask Adobe to make some algorithm and tool finding similar presets. Like author entering some delta value and algorithm trying to find similar presets. Then delete or put in one group of similar presets.
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Not in settings, Stanislav. The ON/OFF button must be directly accessible during the browsing operations. For example, as you described, one may want to do a quick browsing through a lot of preset folders (groups ?) with full live preview disabled and then activate it when selecting a preset in a specific group.
I think the best place for this button is in the toolbar under the viewing area, along with the other tools.
NB : There's another related problem with preset previewing that I commented elsewhere. I just noticed something that I consider as a bug : when hovering the presets, I observed that some of them had absolutely no effect. Very strange. Until I understood that if the settings modified by the preset are located in a development panel that is disabled (switch button set to Off), the live preview doesn't take these settings into account.
This is questionable. The live preview should show the full effect of the preset by temporarily re-enabling the setting panels that are switched off. Otherwise, this doesn't make much sense.
In other words, new feature not tested by someone using LR for real work.
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Have you posted this as a separate bug report? Adobe almost certainly won't see or act on it unless it's a separate bug report.
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https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/lr-7-3-1-often-not-updating-rendering-in-full...
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I've been waiting desperately for a fix to the point of NOT bothering to process images until a solution is in place. That's not fair when I'm paying monthly for a service that I can't reasonably use. As for the reverting to a previous version? That was not an option on my laptop that is still running Windows 7 and will NOT support windows 10 despite all of Microsoft's promises as well. (Runs for about 1 month then always gets the blue screen every time I've installed Windows 10). I Purchased new laptops on 3 separate occasions (all Windows 10) just to find they could not run Adobe LR without painful lags and finally resold or returned them. Each machine I tried had an i5 or i7 processor and at least 16Gb RAM. The performance was worse than on my current Toshiba Satellite P855 windows 7 i5 with 8Gb. The performance to run LR just sucks on windows 10 vs 7. And the three new laptops were $1,200 to $1,500 brand new Dell and Lenovo machines. Why would performance be worse on several new Windows 10 machines than on an old Windows 7 machine anyway?
Windows 7 meets the system requirements per the Adobe website (may 24th 2018 specs.) however Creative Cloud will not revert back a version unless Windows 10 is being used? Why is that?
Adobe should be investing more time into efficiency to run on middle ware machines than bells and whistles that decrease performance and efficiency.
I am really so tempted to scrap all future use of Adobe products and move onto something more reliable.
Adobe LR should NOT take so many resources that a new laptop with a new processor and 16Gb of ram can not run efficiently.
If cutting edge machines are what Adobe is interested in targeting, maybe they should create a LR Premium line and stop KILLING an crippling a huge portion of their customer base!
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https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2473568?start=27&tstart=27
I tried it on my Late 2016 loaded 15" MacBook Pro Touch Bar and it did stop the preset preview on the main window. However scrolling through presets is almost just as bad, very sluggish and jerky as the small upper left window renders the preset preview.
This never occurred on 7.2, but I think the older version allowed you to scroll fast and it would not render until you slowed down. The fix above seemed to force it to render every preset no matter how fast you scrolled through the list.
So the problem is more than just rendering the preview in the main window.
I've again reverted back to 7.2
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The new feature where Lightroom previews presets on your photo when you hover over them is driving me crazy! Its extremely annoying and slows down the app and my editing workflow when this happens as I'm trying to scroll to the preset I want. Please add an option to disable this for people who don't want it!
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Damn I hate this live preview stuff. Same thing with Illustrator reacting to every typed number in type size for example. Changing type size from 10 to 11 you never see the actual change from 10 to 11, only sizes 10->1->11.
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The solution to the preview problem has been posted on the Adobe forums and it works, but now I simply cannot upgrade any of my apps because apparently my internet connection can no longer communicate with their servers to download the updates. Updates get to 3% and then just die. They (Adobe support) literally told me to change my ISP in order to update Lightroom. Can you believe that?
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1. Launch Lightroom Classic CC
2. Choose Edit > Preferences.
3. In the Preferences dialog, go the Presets tab.
4. In the Presets tab, click the Show Lightroom Presets Folder button. The root preset folder opens in the File Explorer.
5. In the File Explorer, navigate into the Lightroom folder.
6. Go to the link https://adobe.ly/2He219B and download the config.lua file. Copy the downloaded config.lua file into the Lightroom folder mentioned in the previous step.
7. Relaunch Lightroom Classic CC.
The System Info dialog (Help > System Info) should display the config.lua flags entry as shown below, indicating that Lightroom Classic CC is now disabling the live preset preview in the loupe view:
Config.lua-Flags:
Develop.disableLoupePresetPreview = true
I can confirm that this worked for me. I have now also solved my connectivity issue (something 4 of the Adobe support staff over 4 remote sessions lasting an hour each time weren't able to do). The fix? Reboot my router...
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1. Launch Lightroom Classic CC
2, Chose (top menu) Lightroom>Preferences
3. In Preferences go to Presets tab
4. In Presets click on Show Lightroom Presets Folder button. Open as a new windows
5. In that window click on the Lightroom folder (not the Lightroom CC folder).
6. Go to the link https://adobe.ly/2He219B and download the config.lua file.
7. Go to the download folder and drag the config.lua file into Lightroom folder in step above.
8. Relaunch Lightroom Classic CC.
The System Info dialog (Help > System Info) should display the config.lua flags entry as shown below, indicating that Lightroom Classic CC is now disabling the live preset preview in the loupe view:
Config.lua-Flags:
Develop.disableLoupePresetPreview = true
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I see a couple of users have posted a workaround involving the use of a 'config.lua' file to temporarily disable the current preset preview behavior.
Please do not consider this a permanent fix for this issue. This was a temporary rough workaround for test purposes only. Use of a config.lua file to modify behavior can have unintended results and may cause issues with future installations.
For those of you who've contacted me via email regarding special access to a preliminary update for a permanent resolution of the issue, we expect to have that available for you to review shortly.
Thank you for your patience.
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Even if my laptop could perform the render instantaneously, I don't want my main image switching its presentation without my intentionally choosing it. Looking forward to Adobe correcting the unintended consequence of a mouse movement.
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May we expect that the removal of the .lua will not cripple the preliminary update when it becomes available?
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We look forward to your feedback in the test area on the changes.
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I am a motorsport photographer and the preview feature has put me to a stop when I have to fast edit images for news sites etc. I think it is a great feature, but I would really like to be able to turn it on and off - depending on where I am in my workflow.
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Preferable (and in my mind the only logic place) - since it is something which changes the general behaviour - in the preferences. There where I as a user can find all the other general behaviours to influence the general behaviour of LR and computer related tweaks as smart preview use, parallel preview rendering, preview sizes, etc.
(Up to now this is one of the things i really love using LR - one place, where i can set my preferences and no need to search like hell all over the place)
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I see full screen previews jumping on my screen when the mouse was hovering over them 1,2 seconds ago. The gpu is turned off.
I'm running my catalogues from 2GB/s pcie flash drives on a quad i7 / 32GB iMac with smart previews. I use a catalogue per project to spread risk and will backup them every 10 minutes because of catalogue corruption which i never had before 7.3. It's like Adobe tries to make this worser with every update for sport or something.
I cancelled my subscription and exploring alternatives, because i refuse to pay 1 cent for stuff that shouldn't be a release version in the first place.
Just hit cancel, you can use it anyway untill your renewal date. Just let the Adobe descision makers know how you feel.
It's obvious that the development resources of Classic are not what professional users deserve.
You want me as a customer next year Adobe? Fix your products or make it free of charge so i can't complain.
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It does slow down my process, because every time I hover my mouse over the left preset panel it changes the image or images when batch editing. And sometimes it leaves the preview showing even though the preset hasn't been selected. This causes me to have to go back over the left preset menu with my mouse to reset it, and I have to perfectly and slowly move my mouse to the right as not to preview a different preset I've created. Please take the preset preview away. I made my presets, I know what they look like, I don't need my hand held when selecting them.
I don't want LR thinking, hogging up resources, or doing anything other than what I dictate it to do with an actual click of my mouse.
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Adobe are going to be sorry if they continue to stab giant holes in a product customers have trusted for years. There is no way I will ever consider using Photoshop / Bridge as an alternative. Using Photoshop is like visiting a software Jurassic Park in my opinion. If Lightroom continues to deteriorate like this I will find something outside of the Adobe ecosystem to use.
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Semantics aside, version 7.2 is working just fine for me.
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FILE > PREFERENCES > PERFORMANCE - Untick box "Enable hover previews of presets in Loupe"
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Why did you actually ask ? The result is the opposite of the expressed wishes. This choice doesn't make sense.
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And for those looking, the option is not in Preset or Interface... it's in Performance?
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Oh wait, i think i see now... they only disabled hover-previews for Presets and not Profiles? Are you kidding me?
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https://imgur.com/tb64PC8
Its nice to have on when trying to find a preset that works with the image, but after that its annoying as h*** to bring the cursor to the left screen seeing the image gets another preset slapped on unintentional... and worst part is that most of the time it doesnt go away after the corsor leaves the preset.
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