Lightroom Classic: Add the possibility to disable full image preset preview

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In the latest update, full image preview has been added when hovering presets.
While this is fantastic and really useful most of the time, when handling large files like stitched panoramas, my computer crawls to a stop as my 7700K is maxed out for each preset.
Could it be possible to disable that in the settings for such case ?
Thanks
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Richard Budde

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This is not an error that happens under some weird set of circumstances that slipped through the cracks in testing. The person doing the programming on this feature got feedback on their screen during each and every iteration of the programming process. So too the QC folks. The results were in plain sight... not masked by the complexity of the program.

This is a glaring example that Adobe has MAJOR issues with how they go about the process of development and for sure QC. If someone in Adobe wrote a specification for the programmer as to how this feature should work, with all of the recent emphasis to improve the speed, it seems STUPID that the spec did not address speed in some manner. 

If the programmer did not raise a flag during programming to the spec writers, also STUPID.

If the QC folks did not test it out on a broad spectrum of computers (which I highly suspect from other releases they don't) and say "hey guys this ain't gonna fly with the customers" this is also very STUPID.

I guess the real QC folks (we users) did object!

You had at least two chances (programmer and QC steps) at not letting this one out the door before it was ready for users. But you blew it. When oh when will Abode learn from their mistakes of the past? Remember the definition of stupid... doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Adobe: your "process" needs serious work.
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doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
This is actually the definition of insanity, nonetheless true to this cause.
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Gotta agree on the majority sentiment in here that producing a preview on simple mouseover is less than mature design. Adobe must be coding on some very fast machines to not notice this problem. I want to move the mouse around without having it activate things just by hover. It is not so hard to click on an item you want to preview, and double-click to actually apply it.

Perhaps the designer would rather be making a GAME. Please don't do that here.
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Please, please please add this ASAP. Lightroom slows to a crawl as I am selecting my presets, and then inevitably a preset that I've hovered over gets "stuck," OR I will click the preset and it doesnt actually change the settings but it LOOKS like it changed the settings because the preset is stuck on there. So then after I think Ive edited it, I am about to export and find that some of my files aren't edited. Is there any way I can downgrade to the previous version of Lightroom Classic? I only installed this version because I installed a new SSD drive and did a clean install of everything. Everything is faster now EXCEPT Lightroom Classic due to this preset resource hogging issue and its just killing me.
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Is there any way I can downgrade to the previous version of Lightroom Classic?
In Creative Cloud app click the down-arrow next to Lightroom Classic CC and select 'Other Versions' then 7.2.
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ootophoto

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Thank you for that, I am downgrading today! It's the only way I can get any work done.
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Jack Thorpe

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Can't do 7.2 because it doesn't recognize RAW from the Sony A7-III
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Hystrung

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I am currently rolling back to v7.2 because of this issue.  I cannot stand to have presets previewing on the large image (in addition to the small navigator window) as the mouse hovers over the preset name and also, my new laptop is sluggish.  Sigh, I lost a lot of time yesterday and today trying to work on a few client's photos.
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Dallas Dahms

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A good way of implementing this new "preview over hover" feature (if you don't want to have to switch it on in preferences) would be to have it only activate while hovering and holding down a keyboard button like CMD or ALT. That would be efficient. 
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Another frustrated user with a request that this be added to a checkbox. I was happy enough with the small preview in the navigator.
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absolutley agree!!! 

I have a monster PC, but over 200 personal presets... slooooooowwww
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it's ridiculous how slow it is. Even I notice some problems when I try to crop an image always I get for a half of second previous one that I crop on the main image. Not sure why but this last update was a big mistake. 

Please, this need to be fixed as soon as possible as paying monthly for this kind of development team is not looking good for future reference.

Regards

Jure
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We are currently looking into options that will satisfy both users who need to preview preset application in Loupe view, and those who need to disable it. The existing feature request has been around quite a while to turn this on but it is obvious further tweaking of the implementation is needed. 

To flesh this out a bit: We have a size-able group of users who like this new behavior as well as a large group for whom this is a workflow disruption. How would you prefer to see the disabling of this new behavior? 

Off by default and on by a preference setting?
The reverse (On by default and turned off by a preference setting?)
A non-preference way of activating/deactivating (button, keystroke, etc)?
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Well said Richard !
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I’m fine with on-by-default, as long as we can turn it off. A simple check box in preferences would be fine.

That said, I really like the idea of having an icon toggle at the top of the preset list next to the plus symbol. I’m sure it would be nice to use this occasionally, and a toggle would make that easy.
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Off by default, otherwise new subscribers won't understand why their laptops are so slow, or spin the fans up due to the heat.
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Please NOT an option in settings. Would be able to activate/deactivate this feature by a toggle/button (above the presets for example) or activating it by a keystroke. Think this way, all people would be happier than going always into the setting dialog
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This feature SUCKS... PLEASE turn it off or give us the option, ASAP.  My workflow along with others has come to a screeching halt.  
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Jonathan Jones

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Speaking only for myself, I would prefer off by default but I understand this may be a highly requested feature for others (those with super high powered computers and few presets, perhaps), so on by default is fine as long as it can be disabled if desired!
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I'm also in the Off by default camp. As mentioned in a previous post it would be nice if you could activate the full size preview only by holding down a button (like CMD or ALT) while hovering over the preset. 

Also, I can't be 100% certain now as I have reverted back to 7.2 but am I correct in remembering that the preset preview was being shown as the first step in modifying a RAW file and not taking into account any previous changes? If that is the case (and I'm sure it was) then that's problematic in its own right. I'm sure many of us apply presets sequentially so if you are looking at a preview of a preset that doesn't take into account any previous modifications then it's pretty pointless as a feature. 
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Off by default. Also at this point, it would nice to know when this is fixed as most will be using 7.2 until it is. 
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Yes great idea, to have an option, personally it would be better to use while holding a key down rather just off or on.

We must be one of the few that don't have problems with this, have a 200k  library of images many  and lots of presets loaded, the only problem come across so far thats affected our work flow was the crop tool showing the previous image turning off the Graphic processor has sorted this until you get a fix.  

Info if it helps running an older  Mac Pro 3.2 Quad-core Xeon 24GB Mem L/R is running on an SSD drive, graphics ATI Radeon HD 5770 with a mega 1024mb    OS High Sierra
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Rikk

I'd say OFF by default, but I'm really so desperate for this to happen that I'd vote for a 'which ever is quicker for the dev team to roll out' option.
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Rikk I prefer with a key held down. This allows users who have the slow preset preview issue to navigate to a specific preset and then hold down a key to preview it. A small delay reviewing specific presets should be more tolerable.
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just create an eye-symbol next to the plus-symbol in presetpanel to activate or deactivate the big preview
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Dallas Dahms

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Are we allowed to ask "when" the change will be implemented? There were some nice changes in 7.3 that I would like to begin using, but not at the expense of efficiency to my existing workflow. 
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You are allowed to ask it, but you won't get an answer. Adobe never talks about future developments, so as always: people who know can't tell you, people who don't know will only speculate.
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Im amazed but not surprised this has been implemented without a disable button.. Adobe have recently gone 2 steps forward with well overdue speed and performance increases but now with this preset preview gone back a step.. every time my mouse accidentally hovers over a preset whilst editing I have to wait while it un-previews.. please dear god give us a disable button.. Even though I would almost never use this function I would occasionally but for every day use this must be disabled. I do funnily enough believe it should be on by default so users get to experience the function but please make the disable button glaringly obvious. I do have a caveat however.. only make it on by default IF and only IF, when you disable it, it is disabled for all future catalogues. I create new catalogues for each shoot every time and this would drive me nuts having to go into settings to disable for every shoot.. so on second thoughts, perhaps it should be disabled by default
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Thanks for the input, if there are some in this group that are hit particularly hard by the current behavior and would like to be part of a small limited-time test group to look at proposed behavior changes, send me a message with your Adobe ID to f l o h r at adobe.com. (but remove the spaces)
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I also saw a big general slowdown after this update, not so one thing is due. But now it is really unmanageable even just to apply a preset.
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I'll tell you something else now too.. even when you do actually want to apply a preset, there is now a lag waiting for the preset to render.. please turn back the clock and rethink this one
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I can see the action of the preset in the Navigator window in the upper left. That's enough to get the idea before replying. At the the very least provide an off switch and at the most just go back to the previous version!
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My thoughts EXACTLY!
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Hi,

I vote for an ON/OFF button that should be quickly accessible all the time. It's not only a problem with those users who want this feature on and those who don't like it. At some moments, e.g. when browsing through a large set  of presets, I don't want the live preview to be enabled. This makes the screen flashing. Once I have eventually landed in the right preset folder (or group ?), having this feature enabled will be useful.

A good location would be in the Presets panel title bar. However, this assumes that it is always visible. Which in turn assumes that scrolling occurs in the Presets panel only and not in the whole left tab. Otherwise, the panel title bar quickly disappears.

Another good choice would be the toolbar under the viewing area, beside the viewing and attribute options.
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Strange... On the desktop, AMD 8 Core, 16GB + Nvidia 1080, previews lag for almost 2 seconds. On the old much hammered laptop from waay back in 2012, quad i5, 8GB, intel gfx (unsupported for lightroom) the previews are silky smooth and virtually instant. Compiled and optimised for intel chips / intel only features used per chance?
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IIRC, when Adobe released first improved 7.x version they said that they worked with Intel on optimizing multi-threading in LR. There's also Intel Thread Building Blocks  (TBB) library dll in the main LR folder. So yeah, it looks like it may better optimized for Intel, which is sad, considering how good Ryzen/Threadripper platforms are. This is the last thing that keeps me from upgrading current i7-3770 setup to the new Ryzen 2000 platform instead of Intel's last-gen offering.
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I prefer off by default, using the small window to preview presets as it was before.  That method was manageable.  If you set it to "on by default", you will certainly alienate any new subscribers who use laptops.
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I like this new option IF.... my older Imac could keep up but it can't. So until I upgrade my work station I would like to turn this off. We should definitely have the option to disable it.