A Quote/Licensing Module in Lightroom

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Can we please have a Quote/Licensing Module in Lightroom?

Since it is software dedicated to photographers it would make perfect sense to add that in it, so we are able to create Quotes/Estimates and specify Licensing right from Lightroom.
You could partner with Blinkbid or FotoQuote to integrate a version within Lightroom.

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What do you envision the integration of LR and BB or FQ allow you to do easier?

LR elementary unit is a photo so what additional information or what additional actions would be associated with a photo in LR that would allow it integrate with a quote or licensing application and if there was licensing module in LR--an additional menu item along the top like Develop and Book and Print, what would you do in that module that had to do with individual photos in LR?

For example would you be able to sort the thumbnails of photos by bid amount or filter by whether there were any bids or not, and/or be able to specify the licensing type in the metadata, are you just wanting a way to select a group of photos in LR and tell these systems that these are ones you want people to know about--more of a publish service situation?

It might make more sense to ask these quote or licensing agencies to write a plug-in or create a publish-service API that integrates LR with their services.

I mean where is the greater competitive tension and potential for gain, among the photo-editing companies or among the licensing-quote service companies? Is Adobe going to gain more market share by integrating such a service, or are the services going to gain more market share by integrating themselves into a popular photo-editor?
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Hi Steve,

Thanks for replying.

I did email Blinkbid regarding making a plug-in for LR. Waiting to hear back.

"What do you envision the integration of LR and BB or FQ allow you to do easier? "
Basically, It would be nice if there was another module on top that read: "Quote", and inside of it we would have on the left side various types of assignments from portraits to weddings, to editorial, advertising etc etc etc, and we'd have an option to choose our state/country for tax purposes, and we would be able to put together a quote that can be emailed, or printed for a client before a photo shoot. Have LR like a "one stop shop" for all photographic needs rather than bounce from app to app.

Also in that Quote module it would super nice if there was also a way to integrate a terms & conditions editable form to we can create based on the state laws in which we will have the photo shoot, and a license to specify what type of usage said photos would have.
Also if we could have a tracking code put into our images sort of like Digimark to track our images straight from LR would be so awesome, there are no better words. Basically simply our workflow. Lightroom is really a perfect app to do so with.

I don't like to use Excel, or other software of that sort for creating quotes and invoices, sometimes these other software apps don't match our markets, they give a rate that will never work in Tampa for example, so for me as a photographer sometimes it is really hard to determine pricing; having this in LR already integrated would make my work flow much better, like for example if someone calls me and asks me "how much for whatever project", I can go the quote module and put it together within a few clicks rather than go around three other apps to figure it out. I have LR open non stop, so this would make my life, and others life a lot easier. I asked around a few other people and they too thought this would be a great idea.

It would compliment the software really nice, now that it has the book module too which comes in very handy when shooting a wedding for example. I don't have to hop somewhere else to make a book.

I think it would be really appreciate it by photographers. It would also help those new to photography who have an issue underpricing, or overpricing assignments and who might not be familiar with "how to price" certain assignments, so having it right there, built in, would solve that problem really quick. It would definitely have a step up over Aperture. I have Aperture too, but I haven't used it in more than two years. I've had LR from version one, now at 5, and with a few exceptions that I go to Photoshop for, LR is always open.

Thank you,
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Lightroom does not currently have a Account-Receivable module just because Photography studios need a A/R system. I am still having a hard time understanding what thee services you describe have to do with individual photos as a fundamental building block. How often would you drag-and-drop a photo from the thumbnail strip onto something in the Quote module or right-click on a photo and choose an action relative to the Quote module.

Filenames can be used as unique IDs for internal tracking purposes. If you are asking for a digital-watermarking system, that could be handled by a plug-in during export.

Do you current own and use either the BlinkBid or FotoQuote applications? Do you find these more-than-satisfactory for your needs? Which is your favorite or do each have their own strengths.

How much should everyone pay for a LR that does these functions? Are you expecting to get them for no more than the current LR upgrade price, or would LR double or triple in price for everyone?

The most I could see LR doing is having a few extra metadata fields and a connector into an existing Quote application--which might easily be handled by a plug-in or publish service, again something the Quote people would be in charge of doing, not Adobe.
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This could be "Lightroom Extended" if you will, and $299/$399 bought new, and whatever the difference would be to upgrade to it from LR5 would be more than fair IMO. A market research survey would probably warrant a better result regarding the price. If it had Digimark type tracking then even $499. Its hard to put a price for the convenience of not hopping from app to app to get something simple done you know? I paid $79 for my upgrade from LR4, so if I had these extra functions I would most likely spent $150/$179? for the upgrade. Whatever % you guys usually use for upgrades.

The Quote module would be separate; meaning it won't have photos imported in it. It would be its own module that one can click on and get all this other stuff squared up, and then go back to their editing. I happen to work sometimes on thousands of RAW files and someone calls and interrupts me, and I have to stop what I am doing and start a whole 30+ minute trek to make a quote, so if I could just switch modules, click, click, print/email/done it would be awesome. For me "convenience" rules. Think of it like Camera RAW is now a Filter in PSCC. No more back and forth.

I had FotoQuote a few years ago, but I think BlinkBid is better, more current if you will. I like it better.

Right:
"Lightroom does not currently have a Account-Receivable module just because Photography studios need a A/R system"....
...But this won't necessarily be for a JC Penney type studio; I don't even know if they are using LR now....this would be perfect for portrait photographers, head shot photographers, wedding, editorial, advertising, food photographers, basically independent photographers, sole proprietors, or LLC's.

Lots of people these days buy a camera, and poof, they start advertising themselves as "photographers", and unfortunately they have no clue about everything that goes into being in "business" as a photographer, so they start out throwing ridiculous pricing either too high, or too low that disband us as a group, and also confuse our clients who now go: "but X did it for $10"?....having a pricing guide embedded in a photo processing application can have a lot of benefits for us since we can't set prices because each city has its own market and places a different value on our product=photographs.

I am not sure, aside from sending an email, what the path would be to have BlinkBid create a plug in for LR. I know for a fact that if all these features I mentioned were inside LR I would have no problem paying $499 for it. I love this program, I think it is absolutely perfect for us, and since it has organizing features and so forth, adding these extras would make it unbeatable for a long time to come.