Photoshop/Lightroom: Easily to find and easy to search user manual

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I have a really novel idea for Adobe and their products - INCLUDE A MANUAL!!! Yes, I know, you have a "Help" menu in each program. I needed to do a keyword search of my database using Boolean algebra, using a combination of keywords. It had been a while since I had to use "AND" and "OR" statements in LR so I went to the "Help" menu in Lightroom CC Classic and typed in the search field, "Search Keywords in Lightroom". Seems like a reasonable request, as keywords are searchable (and presumably is the main reason why keywords are available in any database). The result I got back? "We're sorry, the query you entered has no results. Please try a different search." Say again?? This has happened on more than one occasion. Folks at Adobe, you'd save people a lot of time if you'd only include manuals on something other than how to access the Help forums and how to buy or install a product. A manual is a basic feature of any program, and I'm sorry, but the included Help menu seems to have little use for anything more than learning that you need to go buy one of Adobe's books to really get assistance for what should be a simple task. A product-specific, up to date manual that isn't simply a search one can do on Bing or Google, in my mind, shouldn't even be something we need to ask for. I've searched for things in LR's and PS' online help menu that have returned results from 8 years ago, not exactly relevant today! I know there are videos available, but sitting through several 10's of minutes of videos to find something like, "...use a "!" in front of a keyword to prevent results coming back that have that keyword in them..." simply isn't effective when on a tight deadline. Thank you.

Glenn
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Ellen Wallace

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Yes yes yes! An excellent suggestion. Tutorials especially if they already have don’t do the same thing as a manual you can “leave through“ quickly .
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Roelof Moorlag

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Did you find this (292 page) pdf manual?
https://helpx.adobe.com/pdf/lightroom_reference.pdf
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Bingo! Thank you Roelof Moorlag. I guess this is an example of why I persist with  the relentless stream of emails that's generated here. Every now-and-again a gem like this appears. Thanks again.
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Roelof Moorlag thank you - I had not. And when I simply replace "lightroom" with photoshop I came up with that manual, which is what I've looked and not found. Very helpful.
Might be an idea for Adobe's search to link to these when people put in "manual" as a search time.

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Yes, it's not easy to find these manuals. I had the link to this manual saved localy but i knew there must be a page with PDF manuals, also localized versions, off all Adobe products but i could not find it. Robert Somrack however posted it a few minutes ago.
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Thanks for this Roelof. No, I didn't see this manual - appreciate you finding it for me. However, the one I'm looking at doesn't have a Page 292 in it. It goes to Page 287 and stops there. I did look through it to find out how to carry out full keyword searches, but it only tells you about the filter strip across the top. So far I'm not seeing anything about actual search terms. There is an embedded video with it that I've not looked at yet, but that refers back to my comment about not having time to wade through a tonne of videos to find one item. However I will check it out when I have time. Appreciate you pointing the manual my way though. 

Glenn
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there is a NEWER one here.   you can also  get one for Photoshop and other products

https://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/global/offline-help.html
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Roelof Moorlag

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Thanks Robert
I knew about this page but i could not find it
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Ellen Wallace

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Yes, thank you, very helpful.
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Adobe and Google don't make make it easy to find.  I had a link to it saved.
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For all of these, you should be able to do a Google search on "<product name> manual pdf" and it's always the first (or maybe second) hit.  I just tried it for Photoshop, Lightroom, Acrobat, and Illustrator...

And, you do want the document to be a "living," non-static thing, so it reflects the latest updates and dot-releases.
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Yes, true, although I did try that but didn't get the search terms exactly as you describe above, and so my results were not the same. I also agree that you want the manuals to be dynamic. However, that all said, does it not make more sense for us to look for the manual/help from within the program that it is written for as opposed to relying on a third party search engine? That was my original point really. I can actually go to various places (Kelby, Lynda, YouTube, etc.) and get this information eventually, but frankly my first place to go was the Help Menu for the program that I'm using. Admittedly, if I'm looking for something really off the wall, then yes, it might take someone with experience in the specific area of that program, but doing a search for keywording within Lightroom, then having it return a "No Results Found..." is rather bizarre. Anyway, I appreciate you making note of this here, but my "Idea" label to this still stands, at least in terms of making the link that Robert offered up the primary/default finding for any help item. Thanks for putting this forward.

Glenn
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In Google for me if I type “Lightroom manual pdf” it brings up the OLD dated one. Maybe eventually after scrolling it would get the new one.
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Same here, if I put in Photoshop manual pdf. I guess I would just like it to be a more obvious option within the programs. Thanks to everyone for the help.
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Wow, thanks!!!! I bookmarked this page. This is a HUGE help, and this version does contain info on advanced searches. OK, so I need to amend my earlier comments (somewhat reluctantly though) and acknowledge that Adobe does provide manuals for specific versions of their software, and they seem pretty thorough. Now, let me add this - please make these a default item that always comes up at the top of the list of available resources when you click on any of the software's Help menu. These resources are great and would save 2 things - a lot of time, and yet another trip to the doctor to get yet a new blood pressure medication subscription (GRIN). 

Robert and Roelof, thank you for your assistance with this. You guys really helped a lot with this - much appreciated.

Glenn
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"And, you do want the document to be a "living," non-static thing, so it reflects the latest updates and dot-releases."

One reason many of us clamored for the PDF manuals to be restored is that Adobe's Help search is so abysmally bad when searching for anything but the most common FAQs.   For example, try searching for "expand stacks" in the online Help at https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/user-guide.html. You get "We're sorry, the query you entered has no results."   With other queries, you get results for other products (e.g Photoshop Elements), results larded with videos for beginners, results not relevant to the search terms, etc etc etc.  Expert users often resort to using Google with "site:helpx.adobe.com" as the last search term.

Information that you can actually find, but that might be somewhat out of date, is infinitely more useful than information you can never find.
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