Lightroom: Please add a function to add image watermark 1:1 with no loss of quality and resolution

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exporting pictures with a PNG watermark to the exact ratio of 1:1 is impossible!

that mean loss of resolution and quality of the watermark

I believe this is a BASIC function.

Also the border distance trim for the image watermark, have too big steps...

thanks
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In what way are you using PNG Watermarks? Slideshow, Print, Web, Export? Are all of the images that your are preparing for export the same resolution? What do you mean that 1:1 is not possible? Is the watermark appearing larger or smaller than the original PNG file?
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hi Brett,
I'm using a PNG watermark exporting pictures, all at same resolution(1280px wide), I mean that I have to found the exact ratio to have the PNG superimposed at the exact 1:1 size of the watermark that is 405x58px, otherwise, I have found this ratio that related to the size pict and the PNG size match to 14.

Now the point is that in any case the watermark appear not in focus... It's like the resolution and quality of the watermark get loss, also if not a big loss, it's enough to make appear the watermark degraded... and not sharp.
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I see that the LR watermark is blurry compared to the PSE results. When I compare these two watermarks, I notice that the watermark is somewhat stretched horizontally in LR, but they seem the same vertically. What are your export settings in LR, can you provide a screen shot? Also include the settings from PSE.
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Yes exactly is that I mean, with LR I can't put the watermark in focus, it's blurry.

With PS I have simply added the PNG transparent watermark layer up to the image without modify anything, than saved with web save at hi quality JPG.

With LR I din't have done nothing of particular just modified the ration on 14 to obtain the size that go much close to the 1:1 ratio of the watermark up the picture, so to go close to the PSE result.
I attach the screen shot.
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OK, this seems to be an issue with resizing algorithms. I think we need some Lightroom QE folks to join in on this conversation. I notice that you have a Proportional setting of 14 for the sizing. I'm not sure what this means exactly, as it's not 14 percent of the original PNG size. It could be 14 percent of the current image area, which could explain the distortion, that it's resizing your PNG based on the image you are watermarking, not the PNG itself.
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Yes, I have the proportional setting to 14 because there are no other way to place the watermark at 1:1 ratio on the picture... and using 14 value as you can see it's very near to the result... but it's blurry and a little stretched

I believe a basic function like this should work properly... considering also that PSE doesn't add automatically the watermark in PNG but only some writings...

What exactly I need for my website galley is modify a group of picture on this criteria:

resize them with Long Side to 1280 (OK)
rename than in a new order (OK)
add watermark without loss of quality (FIX)

and with this lightroom bug at the moment I have to use 2 programs to do that...
if you want to give a look to the galleries gtevoluzione.it

thanks again
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Hi Brett!

How is proceeding?
Just to know if I have to contact directly from another form/forum to ask about that fix...

Please let me know

Gaetano
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I've passed a message on to the Lightroom team to look into this.
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Hi Brett,

I have updated to Lightroom 3.5...

very sad that the watermark fix was not implemented...
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Lightroom 3.6 - still that problem...
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seams that in a milion of features the basic one some times get lost 8|
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The problem is still actual
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This is a tricky situation, any change we implement could very adversely effect every customer that uses Lightroom. While it may fix the issue for some, it could cause problems from everyone else.
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I think that one additional checkbox "100%" in dialog Watermark Effects will not a problem.
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Absolutely the 100% no loss feature should be implemented... the workaround here down is good if all the pics are same size and only if all horizontal (or vertical)
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I do not see how "correctly" fixing a problem can be a tricky situation for other people who in my opinion are not seeing their img watermark displayed correctly? I came here because after 2 hours of trying everything possible in LR4 to get my logo attached to a simple export it comes out blurry 100% of the time. I am not back to working with a Template in Photoshop and manually loading each picture in and exporting them out.
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The problem is that if we fix it, it will change it for everyone that has ever used it. It will change the size as they currently have it. Many people are more concerned with something appearing correct than it being mathematically correct. If we change this now, then everyone who has ever used it will be effected, which is a lot. And they will be effected in what could be an unpredictable fashion.
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I don't think will be a so big problem to apply a new watermark preset for those who will have to change to the new settings and in any case have already exported these pic.
Left a blurry watermark affect a Pro program like LR?
Watermaking should be a Basic and perfect function!
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There is a partial workaround (at least in LR4, I'm not sure about 3.x). Assuming that your export dimensions are constant, you can place your sized watermark on a transparent background with a canvas size the same as your export dimensions. This can be saved as a PNG file to preserve transparency and in Watermark Effects, the option Size: Fit should be selected.
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Thank you! It's great solution.
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I like to use a larger PNG so it can be used for high res as well. SO strange that Adobe cannot write an algorithm to resize a PNG on export. This seems so basic and the problem exists even into the latest CC 2016. baffled.
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The problem is that the logo became blurry in curtain unpredictable situations
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This is still a problem in Lightroom 5..

To solve this, LR needs a new option for Size.. "Fixed"

My situation isn't covered by any of the above "workarounds".. My output files are different sizes (some landscape, some portrait, some really wide, ...) and the scaling options all work differently it seems..

I've been supplied with a 150x150 png, and I'm required to have a logo in the lower right 10 px in which is exactly 75x75.. This should be incredibly easy (and is in Aperture by the way) as it requires nothing fancy that's photo specific.

I can and will resize down to 75x75 for input.. right now I have to have the 150x to deal with the scaling in LR5 to get it close enough.. Client isn't happy, but is tech savvy enough to understand the problem is actually a LR limitation (his other photogs don't have as they're using Aperture)

The new "Fixed" option won't break anyone with existing settings.. and will make all of the people above happy.. Why fight adding this?
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I totally agree with fotoaddict. I'm also using LR5, and I have the same issue. For sites such as behance the width (or height) of a photo has to be fixed, while the height (or width) is flexible. However the size of the watermark is all over the place, and that just looks odd.

If I set it to fixed width and fixed height, and want to get fixed width (behance...) the size of the watermark when set to proportional (the other options aren't useful at all IMHO) is all over the place. Same thing when the height is fixed, just that this time the landscape photos are the ones that have bigger watermarks... the wider the photo is, the bigger the watermark.

The easiest way for me would be to define the height or width of the watermark for the export, and LR scales it accordingly. Having it 1:1 would be fine too, and at least it would lead to sharper watermarks.

I just tried Ed's workaround, it works for photos where the width (or height) has to stay constant. Still it would be nice to see the fixed feature in Lightroom. Makes things much easier.
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Totally agree.
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Can new options be programmed which command Lightroom to override previous fields from previous versions only if the new option is selected?

Being a 3rd option for 1:1 after Fit and Fill? Then, under Insert's Vertical, have a Pixels field with two boxes supporting + and - pixel coordinates based on Anchor selection?

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I want all my exported photos to have the same size watermark, even though my verticals are smaller than my horizontal photos. I want the option for photoshop to not resize the graphic watermark at all!
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I just started playing with watermarks in Lightroom today and was surprised that there's no way to have a watermark that's not resized. Like David, I want my watermark to be the same size even if the image size changes. The solution proposed by Kyle would be perfect.