"Include on export" being unchecked is not being honoured in LightRoom 2015.4

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All my keywords are being exported throughout the KW hierarchy, despite many having the "Include on export" option unticked.  This functionality worked fine until I recently upgraded to this new version of LR.


**Master Keywords  (include on export UNCHECKED)
  *arts (include on export UNCHECKED)

will export "**Master Keywords, *arts, dance".  Previously it only exported "dance", which is what I want.

Lightroom version: CC 2015.4 [ 1060496 ]License: Creative Cloud
Operating system: Windows 10
Version: 10.0
Application architecture: x64
System architecture: x64
Logical processor count: 8
Processor speed: 3.5 GHz
Built-in memory: 32471.6 MB
Real memory available to Lightroom: 32471.6 MB
Real memory used by Lightroom: 1416.9 MB (4.3%)
Virtual memory used by Lightroom: 1394.4 MB
Memory cache size: 1406.5 MB
Maximum thread count used by Camera Raw: 8
Camera Raw SIMD optimization: SSE2,AVX,AVX2
System DPI setting: 96 DPI
Desktop composition enabled: Yes
Displays: 1) 1680x1050, 2) 1280x1024
Input types: Multitouch: No, Integrated touch: No, Integrated pen: No, External touch: No, External pen: No, Keyboard: No

Graphics Processor Info: 
GeForce GT 740/PCIe/SSE2

Check OpenGL support: Passed
Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
Version: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 358.50
Renderer: GeForce GT 740/PCIe/SSE2
LanguageVersion: 3.30 NVIDIA via Cg compiler

Application folder: C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Lightroom
Library Path: S:\Pictures\Lightroom Catalog\All Photos.lrcat
Settings Folder: C:\Users\Stephen\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Lightroom

Installed Plugins: 
1) Canon Tether Plugin
2) Facebook
3) Flickr
4) Leica Tether Plugin
5) Nikon Tether Plugin
6) SmugMug

Config.lua flags: None

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Video Memory : 0
AudioDeviceIOBlockSize: 1024
AudioDeviceName: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
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I'm not able to replicate this with CC 2015.4 / Windows 10 or OS X 10.11.2. 

Are you exporting to disk or to a publish service (which one, via which plugin)?
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I'm exporting to disk (but the same problem occurs when exporting to plugins). The 'hidden' keywords show up in the "Will Export" box when they shouldn't, so I don't think it's an export problem.

FWIW, I've got around 27,000 keywords :-) I'm a long-time, heavy user of LR and this has worked fine for many generations and upgrades of LR.  I do seem to remember a similar problem back in the days of LR1 or 2.  I raised a similar support query, and it was fixed in the next upgrade.
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What tool or service are you using to check for the presence of keywords in the exported files?
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It appears this problem is specific to your configuration or catalog, not a general problem with Include On Export. Unfortunately, based on past experience, that means it is much less likely that Adobe will take a look at it unless there is an easy way to reproduce the problem. 

Here are a couple of things to try to narrow down the issue. These may indicate whether or not your catalog's keyword structure is corrupted and may suggest possible workarounds:

- In the main catalog, edit "**Master Keywords" and "*arts".  Check the Include On Export attributes.  Exit LR.  Start LR, edit the two keywords, and uncheck the Include On Export attributes.  Do those keywords continue to get exported?

- Take a sample photo and assign it exactly one keyword, "dance". Edit the keyword "dance" and uncheck the attribute Export Containing Keywords.   Export the photo. Do the containing keywords ("** Master Keywords" and "*arts") still get exported?

- Select a sample photo and do File > Export As Catalog, with Export Negative Files unchecked. Open the sample catalog and export the photo.  Does the exported photo contain the parent keywords?
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Noticed some similar stuff recently:
* I've exported some images with added person tags (the option to ignore persons on export was activated)
* I then checked the meta information because of another issue
* And I still found some person keywords on some images (didn't notice a pattern, though)

I then checked "Export Lightroom Hierarchie" (or whatever it is called) and suddenly all persons have been correctly removed.

But to be honest, I didn't further investigate then...