Lightroom Classic 7.3: "Black & White Mix" missing from copy settings and synchronize settings dialogs

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It is not possible to copy nor synchronize Black & White Mix settings, as the option is missing from the dialog. (While creating new preset, Black & White Mix option is present.) Even if "Check All" button is pressed while copying or synchronizing settings, Black & White Mix is not copied/synchronized.
Version: Lightroom Classic CC 7.3
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john beardsworth

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This is clearly a bug, probably introduced by the new Adobe Monochrome profile.

There's a similar problem with the Previous button which doesn't apply slider values.
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Paul Grant

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It seems in Adobe's quest to add presets they have forgotten that photography professionals depend on these tools on a daily basis.    I am generally pretty good at finding work arounds to get my work done.   Seems lately in Adobe's rush to introduce new features they are missing a big step in delivering a quality product.  Since the Name Change to Lightroom Classic CC each iteration seems to have more bugs than were fixed in the previous version.   Somehow I expected Adobe to tread lightly and be a bit more cautious  with Lightroom Classic CC.   I guess I was wrong.     Not being able to sync the b/w mix is a real issue for me.
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john beardsworth

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Not being able to sync the b/w mix is a real issue for me.
And for me too. A workaround is to create a new preset.
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Chris Allsop

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How did you do this? I tried making a new preset with just the process version and BW mix selected but it doesn't have any effect when I apply the preset.
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Andrey A

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Experiencing the same problem. I cannot seem to find the link to the "submit bug report" form for Lightroom Classic CC. What's the procedure to notify Adobe of the bug?
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Thanks for reporting this one. We are working on it.
Keep up the good work !
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Laura Kent

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How long do you think it'll be until it's fixed?  The suggested workaround by creating presets isn't going to work for the amount of B&W mixes I'm updating throughout my catalog.  
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One more question. What is the expected behavior of the black & white mix when a B&W profile is selected?  When I select a B&W profile, it appears to set the B&W mix to an auto setting that varies between images.  If I double click on "Black & White Mix" to reset it to all zeros, and then select any B&W profile, the B&W mix is no longer affected for that image.  However, syncing the B&W profile ALWAYS results in syncing the B&W auto mix, whether or not it was zeroed out or had settings that were NOT auto.  It seems to me that the purpose of a profile is to gain an effect, but still have zeroed out develop settings throughout the panel.  Which is why I am not sure that this is the expected behavior of the BW profile... 

Since it is not made clear that the B&W profiles are related to the B&W mix settings (at least currently), it is most likely misleading people who are intending ONLY to sync the Profile as their B&W mix settings will be affected as well, perhaps unknowingly.  Not only that, it is not immediately apparent that a B&W profile is an "AUTO" setting, so that after syncing every image has different B&W mix setting, regardless of whether the initial image had the B&W mix settings zeroed out or not.  I would expect Monochrome to have an auto B&W mix, but not the other profiles.  Syncing using AUTO settings is always a touchy thing, and I generally prefer to sync exact numbers for similar exposures/settings.  If I were syncing a B&W mix, I would sync it exact, NOT the auto B&W mix settings.  If I were syncing a profile, I would expect every setting to be exactly the same as the first selected image, because I did not know anything was on auto.  
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If trying to sync a BW profile to an image that had the Black & White Mix intentionally zeroed out, the B&W mix won't even sync the Auto settings.  

There doesn't appear to be a way to get back the auto B&W mix settings once they were intentionally zeroed out/reset.  UGGG
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Martin Haburaj

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really adobe?
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Mattis

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I been in contact with adobe on the Paste from Previous/sync bug...Gave them full access to my mac, no help there. They said they were going to call back after i sent them two monocrome test images to work with, they never did call back.  This is serious messing up my workflow and slowing me down. 
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Martin Haburaj

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Luckly it was easy to go back to ver. 7.2
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Chris Allsop

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Really? How did you do that? I desperately need to apply BW to a big stack of photos!
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Liset Terpstra

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Laura Kent

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 I still can't sync the freaking BW Mixes. Somebody fix this!!!  Nothing is working right.  
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Laura Kent

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A few hours later, and the new update fixed it!  YAY!