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Fri, Feb 21, 2020 8:08 AM

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Photoshop v21.1: Pen tilt partially unresponsive since latest update

Although control is set to Pen Tilt in the Brush Settings for Angle Jitter, the angle of the brush tip remains constant.  It only changes when you make a stroke, yet stays at the same angle even if the pen tilts in a different direction during that stroke.

This issue comes up with the latest update of Photoshop (v21.1, Windows 10), on both a Cintiq 22HD & a Cintiq Pro 24" (Wacom driver 6.3.38-2).

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9 months ago

me too... back to 21.0.3

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9 months ago

Terence, do you have WinTab enabled on Windows 10?

Sr. Product Manager, Adobe Digital Imaging

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I don't think so.  Does it come with Windows 10 on a desktop PC?

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It's an override setting for Photoshop with text file placed with preferences. Doesn't sound like you've set that. In your Wacom driver, do you have Windows Ink disabled?

Sr. Product Manager, Adobe Digital Imaging

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Windows Ink is enabled.  If I disable it, I lose both pen tilt & pen pressure.

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Same here in v21.1 on Windows 10 :
The brush tip remains at the same angle when hoevering with the penand only  responds to tilt on initial touchdown (using Windows Ink). The brush tip remains at that same initial angle throughout the stroke, although the actual stroke laid down on the canvas  is responding to tilt.

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252 Points

9 months ago

This reply is not helpful, I just need to say how frustrating it has been since the most recent update of Photoshop 21.1 No live brush tip rotation preview. Adobe blames Wacom and Wacom blames Windows and no one seems willing to solve this.

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Well, given that this works with Photoshop 21.0.3 but not 21.1.x, while everything else stays the same, I'd say that it's most likely a bug on Adobe's side.

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9 months ago

I have to also throw my hat into this, this just cost me like an hour trying to fix before I realized it was an update, and this is a very important thing I need, I paid for pen that allows rotation I need to be able to utilize it

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Please see my response, I have put the patch/workaround information in there. It only works in previous versions of Photoshop, not the latest 21.1, though.

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9 months ago

I have just been online with Adobe and they have admitted that update 21.1 has "performance issues". Their technical team is working to get the problems fixed ASAP and provide a new update. In the mean time, they suggest we reinstall the previous version of Photoshop.

To solve brush preview and modifier popup issues, here are the settings to put in a txt file and paste into the User/AppData/Roaming/Adobe/Photoshop 2020 Settings folder:

# Use WinTab

UseSystemStylus 0

This tells Photoshop to NOT use windows ink. Make sure that Use Windows ink in Wacom pen settings is UNchecked. Launch Photoshop.

This gives a live preview of brush rotation/tilt as well as gets rid of the modifier key pop-ups. It will only work in Photoshop older than 21.1

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what should this txt file be named?  

this location: ?      C:\Users\"myusername"\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop 2020\Adobe Photoshop 2020 Settings

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PSUserConfig

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The problem with using Wintab is that it is severely broken in 21.1 and leads to false strokes run to the top left 0,0 point,
The Windows Ink issues are easier to live with :-(
Dave

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8 months ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Photoshop: Brush Cursor Angle controlled by Tilt is not updating in real time (Wi....

I have a brush controls the angle of the brush with Tilt. Prior to the latest update, i was able to hover my intuos pen and see the angle of the brush cursor update in real time. Now the cursor is stuck on 1 angle, it only updates after I put the pen down to make a mark.

Windows 10 + Intuos Pro

Also have windows ink enabled.

Is anyone else experiencing this problem?

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This is fixed in 21.1.2

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8 months ago

This also occurs with Wacom's Art Pen barrel rotation. Seems to me like the entire brush preview is broken in this release.

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This is also fixed in 21.1.2

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8 months ago

I can confirm this. It makes the rotation feature of the Art Pen really difficult to use. It's unfortunate that this hasn't been addressed in the newest version yet, I guess I'll keep staying on 21.0.3 for a while :/

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barrel rotation with the Art Pen should be fixed in 21.1.2.  If it's not, please let me know.  Thanks

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8 months ago

Version 21.1.2 lists pen tilt as a "fixed issue". It is not fixed :-(

There is a slight improvement in that the cursor does respond before touchdown so the initial tilt can be seen before starting a stroke.
However, just as with 21.1.1 the actual brush stroke laid down on the canvas does respond to tilt but the brush cursor remains at the same angle throughout the stroke.

Dave

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Hi David.  I'm not seeing the cursor update during painting either in earlier versions 19.x and 20.x.  I'm not sure live cursor update while painting has ever worked.  Is there a previous version where this worked for you?  There was a bug in 21.1.1 where the cursor and tilt for DTip brushes broke - that is what we fixed.  

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8 months ago

This is very disheartening. I have spent hours online with Adobe about this over the years. If they can't fix it, it means I will be stuck using an older version forever.

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8 months ago

This latest PS update did not fix anything, recommend an easy to use screen/video capture program to help explain this -  will have to roll back to 21 0 3. 
Hand tool - click drag and let go, the screen jumps back to where you started, mouse and tablet, using hand tool or holding down spacebar to temporary use.
Change to brush tool - click (mouse or tablet) and all the previous movements you made with the hand tool are drawn as one crazy brush movement.
It seems any tool you use next plays out those erroneous hand tool movements.

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YES please, any video you can provide to illustrate the issues you are seeing is extremely helpful for us to understand, reproduce and fix the issues.  I'm not seeing issue with Space modifier key while painting.  More info on your system setup would be helpful in addition to a video.  Thank you!

There are known issues with WinTab as of v.21.1.

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Had a chance to try again with latest Ps - 21.1.2 and have a small video.  It seems to happen about 20 mins into an edit session.  Use the hand tool to drag around or zoom in/out - it appears to work, but when you release the image snaps off work area.  Also I have wacom settings enabling ue win lnk - then the pen rotation and other pen actions work.  but when use first touch pen to tablet, a circle glows up on screen causing a lag.  

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288 Points

7 months ago

The tilt issue is somewhat resolved. But something else broke. Just take a hard round brush, turn off all transfer and shape dynamics and start writing sentences. You will see that it will make random connections between different strokes. It's getting worse lol.

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Are you using WinTab?  (PSUserConfig.txt in your Prefs folder)

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82 Points

7 months ago

Someone mentioned seeing a circle when touching pen to tablet. This could be due to the "Press and Hold to Right-Click" feature of Windows Ink.  I was able to disable this annoying feature without disabling Windows Ink (and loosing Pen Rotation) by editing the following Registry key:

Using Regedit, go to the following location:
Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Wisp\Pen\SysEventParameters

Change the value of HoldMode from 1 to 3.

Same deal for a touch surface, go to:
Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Wisp\Touch

Change the value of TouchMode_hold from 1 to 3.

This eliminates the circle, and the lag as well.

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70 Points

7 months ago

Hi all, I have been having the same issue with the live updating of the brush tip when using the rotate feature of the Wacom Art pen, I recently upgraded to recent version of PS and noticed my brush no longer showed the cursor rotation as it did in previous versions ( the brush did rotate but the cursor stayed in the default static position )

Before in previous version of PS, you had to enable brush Pose and then Brush projection in Shape dynamics to see the brush update live as you rotated your pen.

After some playing about trying to figure it out, I discovered this...

It seems in this version of PS rotation using the Wacom Art Pen is controlled by Angle Jitter - Rotation in the brush Dynamics section of your brush settings.

Set the angle jitter to Rotation, and enabling Brush pose with Override Tilt X and Tilt Y enabled. Set rotation in Brush pose to 360

Your brush cursor will now rotate live when you rotate the Wacom art pen.

Hope this helps others who have been struggling with this issue as well

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60 Points

2 months ago

I am also having this issue on my surface pro. the tilt changes when i first press down and updates as I draw but the preview before and after is static. The solution above did not work for me.