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Mon, Jun 23, 2014 3:10 PM

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Photoshop: Provide an HTML5 alternative to Configurator for CC 2014 and onwards

Now that Flash is gone from the most current version of Photoshop some users who used Configurator Panels to streamline their work processes seem to be surprised by this development or having problems with re-creating their former Flash Panels as html5 Panels with Eclipse.

There is no denying that
• the move had been announced,
• Configurator was a free goody and
• one should be able to emulate most of the Flash Panels’ functionality with Eclipse.
But as far as I’m concerned Configurator’s ease of use is sorely missing so far.

So it would seem to be much welcome if an application akin to Configurator for html5 Panel creation were developed and released for those users whose Photoshop customization needs go beyond Actions, Keyboard Shortcuts and Menus but who are lacking in html5 savvy.

Regards,
Pfaffenbichler

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152 Points

6 years ago

Agreed. I understand why Adobe moved on from Flash to HTML5 panels, but I don't understand why so many Configurator users are left in the rain. In my humble opinion, Configurator was a great solution for users who are not that code savvy but smart enough to build a few buttons that run JSX scripts etc... Why not have a Configurator 5.0 that can load all our old panels and export them as HTML5 panels? On Adobe Exchange I see heaps of Flash panels that were done with Configurator that will most likely just become obsolete otherwise... :'(

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»Why not have a Configurator 5.0 that can load all our old panels and export them as HTML5 panels?«
I certainly can’t judge how complex such an application would have to be (and consequently how much resources it would take to develop) but it would seem the most convenient solution for most Configurator users, me included.

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444 Points

6 years ago

I would agree that there need to be an easy way for non coders to produce panels like Configurator - Perhaps have Muse be able to generate the panels. I've been playing around with the new html extension panels, and I know that few non-coders would dare dive into that.

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126 Points

6 years ago

Configurator for me is not a luxury, its essential. If Adobe had given it more publicity (I found it on Adobe Labs purely by chance) its passing would be causing far more outrage than it is now. If they were to produce an Html version and promote it, I know it would be incredibly popular.

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190 Points

6 years ago

Yes. Please provide a Configurator alternative. Until there is one I will not be using CC 2014.

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152 Points

6 years ago

I for one did not see the announcement of Adobe moving on from flash panels. Doesn't matter, what's done is done. I don't think Adobe knew how many of us used Configurator to build our own panels. They aren't something that is easy to share as most are for individual users. For example, many of my panels are for selecting Tool presets.

Having some other option than trying to figure out coding and Extention Builder would save many us a lot of headache and also something that I would promote the use of. I've already converted several people to using configurator and setting up their own custom panels.

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122 Points

6 years ago

I strongly agree. I love to use Configurator and I'd like to use it in the future, too. I can't go back to a life without Configurator.

I guess many people feels the same, and for most of them, Extention Builder is too difficult. Photoshop users are not programmers, but they still needs their own personalized panels.

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6 years ago

Thank you all for the feedback.

Please also hit the »+1« button if you haven’t already, a large number would probably help anybody at Adobe who agrees argue the case when it comes to allocating resources.

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122 Points

6 years ago

Yes we build our workflow on configurator and we really need it to work every day.

another post about the subject here for those at adobe that doubt that configurator is usefull

https://forums.adobe.com/thread/12988...
this topic has allready more than 3500 views!!!

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1.9K Points

6 years ago

A simple way to build a panel that would run actions would be incredibly helpful!

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152 Points

6 years ago

Hey everyone, with a little help from Tom Ruark I was able to convert my popular DODGE AND BURN extension into an HTML5 panel that now works in both CC and CC 2014. It is a simple four button thingy that runs a script (which I converted from my saved actions) for each button. Feel free to look at the source code and copy whatever you need to get your own extensions running. Not sure how much it helps, but certainly worth a shot. :)

You can download my extension from Adobe Exchange here: http://creative.adobe.com/addons/prod...
Click on "Where to find it" and choose "Download / Install your Add-on another way" to get a manual download for the ZXP file. Once downloaded, rename the ZXP to ZIP and you can unpack the sources and assets. The manifest file in the csxs folder will show you how your manifest needs to look to support CC 2014. The index.html in the main folder is the actual panel, i.e. its layout and look; while the scripts you want to use need to go into host/Photoshop.jsx.

Once you have everything for your panel in place, you need to package and sign it again. For that you will need the "CC Extensions Signing Toolkit" which you can get from Adobe Labs here: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/exten... (At the bottom of the page.)
This is a command line tool and the command you need to run to pack and sign your extension is as follows:

ccextensionswin64.exe -sign PathToTheFolderYouWantToPack com.yourname.yourextensionname.zxp certificate.p12 YourCertificatePassword -tsa https://timestamp.geotrust.com/tsa

For "ccextensionswin64.exe" of course use whatever version of the file you are using - my example is the 64-Bit Windows version.

If you don't have a p12 certificate yet, you can create your own with the Adobe Exchange Packager which you can get here: http://www.adobeexchange.com/resources Make sure to set the path to your JAVA installation correctly before trying to create a certificate or it will fail.

If you have actions saved that you would like to put on a button of your extension panel, you will need to convert them into JSX (that is ExtendScript, the Photoshop-Version of JavaScript). You can use xTools for that. It's a bunch of very nice Scripts for Photoshop that you can run using "File > Scripts > Browse..." command. The one you need is called "ActionFileToJavascript" - it will let you open a saved .atn actions file and convert whatever your action is doing into JSX code. :) You can get xTools here: http://ps-scripts.sourceforge.net/xto...

So, that's about it. I know this is WAAAY more complicated than the ease of use we had with Configurator, but maybe for some of you who are desperately searching for a way to get their stuff to work again, it might just be the info you need to get you going. Hopefully there some day there will be a Configurator 5, who knows... By the way, if any of you are actually using my Dodge and Burn extension, I would be very happy to get a rating/review from you over at Adobe Exchange. :)

With best wishes from Cologne, Germany
André

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It won't let me unzip your file. What I was wanting to see is your javascript coding. I'm trying to build a panel to select specific brush presets but I don't know javascript. If I can get the js coding then I'll be able to finish my panel. I've asked for help numerous times but so far no luck.

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6 years ago

Again: Thanks for the feedback.

15 »pluses« in one week is probably not terribly impressive for Photoshop in general.
But judging from the feedback over at
https://forums.adobe.com/thread/12988...
it seems someone at Adobe is already looking into the issue and hopefully it will be deemed worth the effort.

Existing alternatives are also mentioned in that thread, so maybe it can be helpful to people who had not noticed it before.

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60 Points

6 years ago

Trovo vergognoso che adobe abbia lasciato tutti noi con il culo per terra
poteva fare un ibrido prima che i pannelli html prendessero piede nella progettazzione
io dopo il mese di prova lascio questa piattaforma
buona fortuna
Adobe non e' piu' nelle mie priorita'.

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6 years ago

Thanks to all the people who have »+1«-ed the thread in the meantime.

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6 years ago

Why does an App with the worst user interface in the world not have a built in native tool to allow users drag and drop tools, menu items and actions to a custom panel.

(I am not interested in flash v html debates).

A custom panel should be native to the app.

While some tools are available via a click button, 75% of the tools are hidden behind other tools, requiring knowledge of the hidden tools and extra clicks to use. Most commands are buried deep inside multi-layer menus. These can be accessed thru a combination of complex keyboard short cuts. This is a real crock when I need to keep a stylus in one hand and use my other hand to enter the complex shortcuts. Creative Suite users deserve a decent user interface. I could list a range of small, medium and large products which have had this capability for the last 20 years.

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Matthew, I would be interested to know what apps have this feature to drag and drop tools. It sounds very interesting, and if we can list some examples for Adobe to look at, maybe we can get some changes. I agree with you about commands being buried. I was just talking to someone about this in regard to Microsoft products, and how their UI's are getting worse with each upgrade. There was a demo at Adobe Max at the Sneak Peeks by Zorana Gee regarding an HTML overlay for PS, so it looks like Adobe is looking at this issue, and now is the time put put our two cents down as to what we would really like and give concrete examples.

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If you go back 20 years, Microsoft had this feature as standard. It got lost a little bit with the Ribbon, which I dislike still, but would dearly love to have the ability to configure my own ribbon (and tabs) within the whole Creative suite, even similar to the current Microsoft Office suite version.

I also remember configuring panels for various versions of AutoCAD. I do not have a current licence for Autocad so cannot easily check current versions.

I use a small program called Xplorer2, which allows me customise the toolbar.

I have rebuilt my Windows machine recently and have really only installed Microsoft and Adobe apps. I will try to recall other apps and post here.

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Corel Painter has had this feature for many years. You open a panel and drag whatever brushes, tools you want into the panel.

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Nice examples, thanks! Keep the coming and any other features you'd like to see, as Adobe does look at these forums for input.

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Various TurboCad programs provide the options to create tool panels, custom menus, etc and have done so for years and years.

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5 years ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Will there be a Configurator compatible with Photoshop CC 2014?.

I used to find it damn handy, until it started not-quite-working with CC, and now it's dead and buried with CC 2014. Will there be a replacement? If not, what are my alternatives?

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»what are my alternatives?«
html5 Panels are the alternative.

Personally I have not been able to get comfortable with that so far, but Adobe has provided some instructional material
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/creatives...
and Davide Barranca’s series of postings on the issue looks quite interesting
http://www.davidebarranca.com/categor...