kzirkel's profile

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270 Points

Wed, Mar 30, 2011 3:02 PM

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Photoshop pricing structure is too high

The price of Photoshop standalone is too high, and the pricing structure for the suites is too complicated.

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328 Points

9 y ago

Wow, $699.00 for a piece of software. That is highway robbery. The disc should be scratch proof.

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132 Points

8 y ago

the price of a Photoshop licence in completely reasonable for a graphics company. But photoshop is completely ubiquitous for non professional hobbyists playing around with their vacation photos or creating silly images to post on facebook. These users want all the functionality of the full version of Photoshop, but it's unreasonable to expect them to pay the full price of a professional licence. That is more money than a new computer costs these days. the creative cloud doesn't really help since an ongoing membership still ends up being very expensive and is overkill for occasional sporadic use.n The pricing of the educational licence seems appropriate for these users, and is in spirit more appropriate for the non-professional creative hobbyist, but that licence is only available if you are enrolled in an accredited school.

It seems to me Adobe is missing a huge potential segment of the market. So many people would buy Photoshop and other creative tools for casual home use if they could afford it. Instead probably a lot of people just download cracked copies.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
why is there no cheaper licence for non-professional users of the creative suite tools?.

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364 Points

8 y ago

Over $300 annually? That's way too high for casual users. I'd consider a 10th of that as a reasonable fee. I'm a Lightroom owner and I'd consider spending some money to be able to use Photoshop when I occasionally need to. But over $300 annually for the CS suite is ridiculous. I'm sure you're covering the high end of the market well, but there's a lot of casual users who you're missing with this price structure.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
The monthly fee is way too high for casual users.

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32.2K Points

You can rent Photoshop for just a month if you like. The per month price is higher if you do it for just one month than if you do it for a whole year, but in the end you are only renting it when you need it.

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286 Points

These product are not catered to casual users. There is a reason that Adobe products such as Premiere Pro and After Effects are used on major motion pictures. It's because Adobe products are made for professionals or at least people who are aspiring to be professionals. By no means am I saying that casual users shouldn't use these products, but let's be realistic here.

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648 Points

Renting for a month does not really help. I use Lightroom (still version 6) maybe 20 times per year, mainly after vacations or weekend trips, parties or certain other events. This happens across the year. 

If Adobe wants the money of casual users, they'd either need to return to the purchase model or they woul have to offer tariffs that go per session / hour or the likes. E.g. a tariff of 5 € per months for up to 10 hours of usage, then increasing prices for other packages with more usage time.

Currently there's just one price for anyone, whether he is a pro spending all day on it or just a hobbyist who wants to organize and edit their family photos here and then.

For pros it's rather cheap, I belive Adobe could even charge much more. For casual hobbyists it's too expensive.

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432 Points

I feel your pain; I have the same problem with Illustrator which I use just now and again. However there are plenty of alternatives to both Illutrator and LR/PS for casual hobbyists. If - as is your right - you choose to use pro tools for a casual hobby, you can’t expect the vendor to subsidise this. Nor can you expect other users to; as a pro, I find it interesting that a casual hobbyist (whilst whining about the cost of a pro tool) suggests that Adobe could actually charge pros more, whilst charging casual hobbyists less. For the same tools. Hmmm

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648 Points

Well, I would understand that if this had been their strategy from scratch. And if I started photography today, I'd certainly go for alternatives.
But Adobe has for many years addressed advanced amateurs with a fairly priced purchase version. It has even reduced the price significantly - my first lightroom version (2) had cost me 300 €, later versions were only in the ballpark of 130 €. And even with LR6 Adobe promised(!) that there would always be purchasing versions.

So for ten years they have drawn amateurs to build up their entire collections, workflows, tools etc. around Lightroom and made them virtually dependent on it, and as soon as they have build up a huge user base, then out of the sudden they start charging pro prices. Like a drug dealer giving the first three shots for free.

This is what really upsets me!

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364 Points

8 y ago

I understand but I don't think you guys get it. At that price range it's a great price if you're a pro making a living with it. If you just want to play around with it then it's too much.

Greg

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62 Points

3 y ago

I also agree with them who say it's a little to high. There are thousands of users with low income but who have great skills and talents of art. I published in my board the idea of prices especially for lower incomes. Others do it also. We have rising prices all over the world. These people can build up their little business with the amazing software of ADOBE. Later they have more money to pay a higher price. But with high prices right from the start poor people will never ever have a chance to work hard in art to make the world great with awesome artworks. I also built up my community and videos from less as nothing to a real good business. Please, thing about it... help the world growing..

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676 Points

You need to invest in yourself and your business if you want to make money.

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286 Points

Here's the thing though. Nothing should come easy and if a person really wants something then they should be willing to literally shovel shit for a time to make their goals happen. Of course everybody has different circumstances and therefore challenges, but asking a world renowned company that provides an industry standard product for a handout is pretty silly. Especially when considering the fact that the product Adobe provides to people allows them to make money. A lot of money. People need to make their dreams come true. Not ask others to do it for them.

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676 Points

3 y ago

Whoever thinks the price of Photoshop or CC in general is insane and greedy.  I subscribe to the entire suite for $600 a year (at $49 a month) and the amount of money that the suite allows me to make is ASTRONOMICALLY more than the cost of the software.  It's a professional software suite and true professionals (who understand the value of the services they are able to offer) will appreciate the value of the software.  If you're not a pro there are SO MANY FREE AND INEXPENSIVE options.  Gimp for example and a multitude of very cheap options on the Mac store.

If you drive in the Grand Prix you buy a Ferrari, if you drive for Uber you buy a Honda.  Go buy a Honda and stop complaining.

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234 Points

2 y ago

Too high?  Not for professional use.

Consider standalone AutoCAD license costs $4,195.00. If you do not get the $1,250/year maintenance subscription, you will receive no major updates and no tech support from AutoCAD.

A monthly subscription of AutoCAD costs $210/month.



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380 Points

2 y ago

I agree and I think Adobe are creeping up the price off the Photographers Cloud and I have noticed that people are starting to look for cheaper alternatives which will eventually lose Adobe its crown. I am the Vice-President of my local camera club which consists of mainly retired people and these people rely on Adobe to edit their images. They cannot afford to pay the money now asked for the Photographers package and many are looking at Stand Alone LightRoom which negates the use of layers and then they lose out again. I'm sure Adobe's intention was to make it affordable for the masses but we find that again, Adobe products are too expensive for the average home user.

Adobe, if you read this then it is time that you had a discount pricing for members of not for profit clubs such as mine, perhaps at the student rates. The clubs could provide conformation that the person is a paid up member via a copy of the membership receipt and you could licence accordingly. I would be happy to arrange for my club to be involved in a beta program to try this out.

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132 Points

2 y ago

My main gripe with the pricing model is that a monthly subscription just doesn't make sense for a lot of people who don't use photoshop more than a couple of times a year. It's not that $10/month is a lot to pay for something you use regularly or professionally but it's a lot if you don't even use it most months. It's like how fitness clubs force you into multi year memberships but then most people never end up going after a few weeks. It's an unsavory business model.

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59.4K Points

I understand that, but nobody forces you to use Photoshop. There are competitors that do not charge per month, and there are even free alternatives.

Johan W. Elzenga,

http://www.johanfoto.com

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286 Points

2 y ago

Has everybody forgotten about the days when there was no such thing as Adobe CC and a pay per month subscription? Remember the days when if you couldn't afford to pay for these programs upfront you didn't get the programs?

People seem to only focus on what is convenient for them. Adobe provides the highest level software for world class professionals who are using their products on a regular basis. And you want them to focus on people who use their software a couple times a year? I think they have done more than they ever needed to by providing a subscription service and to be quite honest, if you can't afford $10 a month, you're doing something wrong and may need to rethink your life goals.

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132 Points

2 y ago

yes, and that's exactly what I am doing.  I bought Affinity Photo and don't use Photoshop anymore.  Works well enough until something better comes along.  I just piled on to this thread to give my voice to Adobe that I, and people like me, would still be happy to give them my money if they came up with a pricing model that makes sense for people in my situation.