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Thu, Jan 17, 2013 6:54 PM

Photoshop: Photomerge won't merge all images in water/sky panorama

Photo merge isn't merging the first and last image of my pano. Same problem as on another comment site with another photographer. The images are of water and horizon with mountains, on a tripod with 20% overlap, settings correct and stay the same. The first and last images don't get merged and they are all sequential. The conclusion is that photoshop should still merge them since they are sequential even if the landscape is a little ambiguous. I must force them together as it isn't necessarily re-shootable.

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8 y ago

Hi Lani,

What version of Photoshop are you using?

is it possible to post the images on Dropbox or other so we can get an example to our engineering team?

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8 y ago

Hi Jefferey,
Thanks for your swift response. Currently I am using CS 6 and will try to get these to Dropbox in the next few days. I have been out of town and overbooked. Since I've never uploaded to drop box do I just use your email address?
Thanks,
Lani

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If there aren't many edges to align, or the images differ too much (like from moving water) - the images may not contain enough detail to align.

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Sure, or just make a public folder. I'll send you my email address.

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Ok I'll get them to you. And yes Chris I think you're right.

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8 y ago

Jeff, I sent you the images several days ago into drop box and sent you an email, did you get them?

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8 y ago

Hi Lani, sorry. Yes. I downloaded the two files. Chris's assessment is right:

"There aren't many edges to align, or the images differ too much (like from moving water) - the images may not contain enough detail to align."

The water in the second image has a much different/deeper waves.

That said, because the horizon is pretty simple, I was able to hand align them and then choose Edit>Auto-Blend Layers... and Photoshop did a great at blending them when they were hand aligned. For panos like this of moving water, and not many vertical edges, that might be your best bet.

I posted the blended PSD back to your dropbox folder.

Try the technique I suggested above with the rest of the images and let me know how it goes. If you want to post the other images in the pano, I can also take a crack at it.

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8 y ago

Hi Jeffrey,
Thanks for trying. I did do the blending with the help of an adobe expert (who by the way showed me 3 different ways to merge photos in cs6 plus blending) on the beginning and end of my pano a week ago and it did work but is time consuming and for me risks sharpness. I believe I will continue using my 4x5's for this as I really like these kinds of scenes. I still feel photomerge should be able to find points of commonality along with sequentiality and merge. Maybe that's for the future. The merge function did work with a 6-panel downtown pano just fine.
Thanks for trying I really appreciate it.
Lani

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We try to improve the algorithm to work with image sets like this - where the foreground areas are different enough with changing waves and patterns that don't align well. It's a tough problem to solve. The technology works on static scenes where the content isn't moving/changing - Like your city scene.

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8 y ago

Yes, I believe you and that makes sense. Photomerge worked great with my city scene. Thanks.

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8 y ago

I don't know if my question relates to this panorama question, but when I use the photomerge to do a panorama it doesn't turn out right. Is there something wrong with photoshop? Please help.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/evitgzww5ut...

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Can you upload the individual photos you're trying to merge?

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Here is the link to all the images that I want to merge.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/qvcyjmhb29...

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8 y ago

Hi John

Ok. Now I can see what the problem is.

When shooting images for a panorama, you need to stay stationary and just turn your body slightly between each shot, making sure that each image overlaps around 20-30%.

With the images you have, you've walked from one edge of the garden to the other edge and also swiveled your body.

This tutorial will help:

http://photography.tutsplus.com/artic...

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Thanks for the information. :)

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3 y ago

i know this is an old thread, but hoping i get a reply.. also having a few issues.. i have a pano of about 8 shots that won't seem to merge correctly, the first 5 images are fine, and the rest are placed down on the page.. hope someone can help 

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Can you post a folder of the images so we can try and run them to troubleshoot? (dropbox or Creative Cloud)

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