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Photoshop: Is there an optimal setting for Select and Mask? I can never get it to work efficiently :-(
Ever since Select and Mask had been released, I've never managed to get it to work smoothly. Actually, when it was first launched, it probably worked the "best" but it still was a waiting game and was never quick. Is there an optimal setting? The quick selection tool is almost instant. I have a decent system but it struggles in Select and Mask. Please see video for demo of my experience. Also, see comments for system spec. Does anyone actually use it effectively? Or do you still use the "old method"(refine edge). This is excruciatingly painful - over 5 mins and I've still not manage to make a basic cutout
Jerry Syder, www.jsyder.co.uk - Insta @takenword
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New Document 2.1.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CC 2018\Required\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.ccx.fnft\fnft.html”
Libraries 2.11.27 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CC 2018\Required\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.DesignLibraryPanel.html\index.html”
InstaMask 1.0 1.0.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\com.JM.InstaMask\index.html”
Start 2.1.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CC 2018\Required\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.ccx.start\index.html”
Adobe Color Themes 6.1.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CC 2018\Required\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.KulerPanel.html\index.html”
Export As 3.1.2 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CC 2018\Required\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.photoshop.crema\PSPanel\dialog.html”
Raya Pro 2.0 2.0.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\RP - Manual Install\index.html”
Export As 3.1.2 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CC 2018\Required\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.photoshop.crema\PSPanel\dialog.html”
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Rosa
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Jerry Syder, www.jsyder.co.uk - Insta @takenword
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stefan_klein
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that ́s terrible :(
On my system it ́s nearly realtime. You could try a bigger radius for the QS tool. Is it as slow as this, if you use other preview modes (on black, on white etc.)?
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paddy_boocock_jeevimoldpx41
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For hair fly-aways, I tend to find using a 0 contrast with a brush that is a little wider than the flyaway is most efficient. Once they are all selected I may narrow the brush and bump the contrast up to refine individual fly-aways.
It seems pretty sensitive to brush size and the number of strokes you use, performance-wise and I have had to change my technique from the old Refine Selection, where I did more as you seem to do in the video.
There does seem to be a bit of a performance issue overall though, particularly with complex edges or large images. I also get the spinning wheel then from time to time,even on a single stroke over a complex or low-contrasting area. (I get it on two different Macs, both of which are well-spec'd).
I've tried using Affinity on the same image for comparison, but although it is faster, it doesn't seem to be as good as Photoshop in terms of precision for edge refinement.
All in all though, I think the tool needs a coat of looking at from Adobe - it is slower, sometimes to the point of being not really fit for purpose.
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joel_baer
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One more thing to check- it could be that your GPU or driver is having some sort of issue. Can you verify that your drivers are all up to date?
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paddy_boocock_jeevimoldpx41
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Looking again at what you are doing - have you tried Select Subject ? - I am not sure when it came in to CC, but it is in CC19.1.
You just open your image and then click Select Subject under the Select menu - it will automatically find all the edges and select the image subject and then you just need to use Select and Mask to refine things. It works pretty well and a lot of the edge refinement seems to be done by it. On my slower Mac, a MacBook Pro, using a similar image of a girl on a relatively simple background, it takes about 3 seconds to find the subject and do the selection. You might want to give it a try.
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paddy_boocock_jeevimoldpx41
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I tried this on my iMac and on my Windows rig, which is way inferior to yours:
- Adobe Photoshop Version: 19.0 20171103.r.190 2017/11/03: 1143799 x64Number of Launches: 4
- Operating System: Windows 10 64-bit
- Version: 10 or greater 10.0.16299.15
- System architecture: Intel CPU Family:6, Model:10, Stepping:9 with MMX, SSE Integer, SSE FP, SSE2, SSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, AVX, HyperThreading
- Physical processor count: 4
- Logical processor count: 8
- Processor speed: 2295 MHz
- Built-in memory: 16354 MB
- Free memory: 9425 MB
- Memory available to Photoshop: 14420 MB
- Memory used by Photoshop: 70 %
I didn't get any delay at all on the iMac and sometimes a 1 second spinning wheel on the Windows machine, but eminently useable.What is different about both of these to my MacBook Pro, where I get the same problem as you, is that I have two scratch disks configured on the Windows machine and three on the iMac.
Looking at the spec above, I think you only have 1 configured, as I do on the MacBook.
By rights, your Windows system should be a lot faster than mine - you have twice the memory I do and your CPU is somewhat faster as well
The other difference on the first test I did with the Windows machine is that I was accessing it remotely via RDP at the from the MacBook, so OpenGL was disabled, because it causes graphics conflicts on RDP connections. I thought that might be making a difference. So I just tried again, using Jump to access the Windows machine, which doesn't disable the OpenGL. It did make a slight difference, but in the wrong direction for the theory about OpenGL, as there are no spinning wheels at all when I use it via Jump and the OpenGL is active.
That really only seems to me to leave the scratch disks as the main difference, between my config and yours, so you could try configuring a second scratch disk and see if that helps at all. It may not, but it might be worth a try.
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earth_oliver
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Just tested again and nothing has changed.
My machine is massive: i7 9700, Nvidia 2070, NVMe scratch at 3GB/s.
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den_denyer
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Performance of Select and Mask workspace is unusably slow. I'm still using Topaz Remask 5 (Not the AI version) because the photoshop tools are too slow to use.
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primeshooter
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I get this exact issue. 128GB DDR4 3600 RAM, Ryzen 9 3900x, 1070 nividia 8gb, 1TB m2, 2 TB SSD, x9 3.5 drives. My system is state of the art but this is unusable! What the heck is going on?
Also, adobe can you please fix the issue in select and mask were the scroll wheel zoom just randomly stops working. This has been going on since Cs6! Cannot believe I pay for this software.
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