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Wed, May 30, 2012 10:57 AM

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Photoshop: How do I remove window bar and grey background on Mac in CS6? (Application Frame)

Hello,

As you can see in this capture, PS CS6 shows a window bar (unnecessary, IMHO) in starndard window mode. This bar didn ́t apear in PS CS5... Is there a way to remove it? Thanks!

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Adobe Administrator

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8 years ago

To return to the Photoshop CS5 behavior on Mac choose Window>Application Frame to toggle the Application Frame off.

Sr. Product Manager, Adobe Digital Imaging

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8 years ago

As long as you have Photoshop in a window, there has to be a window frame.

If you turn off the app frame (Window->Application Frame), then there is no window frame.

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8 years ago

Great! Thank you Chris and Jeffrey!

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8 years ago

Oh thx god .. i can not stand it, why stopped working on windows platform.

For me on the laptop screen it takes up to much space, and the osx window shadows now go over the tool pallets, so annoying...

thx for question and answer...

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634 Points

8 years ago

Thanks Jeff!!!

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8 years ago

awesome! this was a big help!

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72 Points

8 years ago

Please bring back the transparent background from CS-5 photoshop. I really hate the new themes and liked much better when I could see my desktop. I'm on Mac OS 10.8.2 and I always have files on my desktop that I'm working on. Now I cannot see them because of the additional window that opens with photoshop, very annoying.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Annoying themed backgrounds.

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8 years ago

Maybe I'm overlooking something, but the big black window that comes up when I fire up Photoshop gets in the way of everything else when I'm switching back and forth between Adobe programs and my desktop. I now have to add an extra step, reveal desktop, to get to things that are saved on my desktop. I would like the option in Photoshop to have the same window functionality of past versions, where panels are dockable to the sides of the screen and not just to the obtrusive black window that always stays up (it would be nice to hide that window as well). Thanks for your time.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Photoshop CS6: Application Frame gets in my way..

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was this ever resolved? i have the same problem- i don't like this window and wish it didn't exist

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window>application frame??

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Correct.

Sr. Product Manager, Adobe Digital Imaging

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Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!!!!!!

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8 years ago

Thank you thank you! that feature drove me crazy.

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8 years ago

This is great, but now when I open a new file it is positioned at 0,0 underneath my tools window. Is there any relief for this?

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Sounds like your Options bar isn't docked to the top of the screen nor your Tool bar to the left edge of the screen. If those panels are floating, then the document is placed at the screen origin. Drag the tool bar and tool options bar to edge until you get a blue highlight that allows you to dock them to the edge of the screen.

Sr. Product Manager, Adobe Digital Imaging

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You are the best! Thanks so much!

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This was my next question. Thanks again!!!

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8 years ago

Thanks You! My boss usually starts swearing once a week because of that Application Frame. That "feature" alone has made him really think about going back to Photoshop 5. He hates it that much.

The fact that when you close it and it closes all other windows is responsible for him loosing his progress on more than a few files. BTW, he's aware that the "do you want to save" dialog box will pop up if files have not been saves, but he thinks he is just closing the grey frame and clicks Don't save.

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7 years ago

THANK YOU FOR THE ANSWER!!! :)

I HATE THIS NEW FEATURE!!! :oP

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7 years ago

Oh gosh, I'm so glad I found this. Thanks for posting this solution!!

Also, Adobe, I'm confused by the fact that this a default behavior in CC. I really can't envision a scenario in which the user is better served by having a huge blank gray box appear in the middle of their screen after they've already acted with the intention to *clear* their workspace (i.e. via closing an open window or windows). It's like Photoshop's version of a pop-under ad.

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You might want to ask Apple why they are moving all apps to having an application frame/blocking window.

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7 years ago

Add me to the list of people who think this is just about the dumbest feature imaginable. Why can't you turn this off in Preferences? I had to do an internet search to find the solution.

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You can turn it off, as explained above.

And, again, Apple is moving to applications that cover the entire screen, as Windows has done for many years.

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Yes, and that scares me. It's one of the most horrible things about Windows.

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I completely agree. Windows made working with Adobe products very difficult which is why most designers and photographers use Apple.

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Chris, you are wrong. Apple may be moving towards more single-window applications, which when maximized cover the whole screen, but PhotoShop is not a single window application. Nor should it be.

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Read about the difference between a document window and an app window here:

https://developer.apple.com/library/m...

Also read this, starting with "The App Style Determines the Core Architecture":

https://developer.apple.com/library/m...

iPhoto is a "Single-window library-style app", which does not generally open files from the Finder, but instead completely hides the file structure and uses its own browsing pane instead, with predetermined organizational structure and no user-controlled opening, closing, or saving of files. That is not how PhotoShop users work, or want to work, on files.

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6 years ago

What's funny is I apparently did this very search when I upgraded to CS6 because this year after installing CC '14, I spent an hour in frustration looking all over the Preferences to get rid of this darned thing then gave up and did a Google search. This link was colored as visited in my Google results. :) And here I am re-reading the instructions I read a couple years ago–on how to get rid of this and so thankful to Jeffrey for letting us know where to look. Why wouldn't this be in Preferences under "interface?" Why have this application frame in the first place? And why turn it on by default?

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»Why have this application frame in the first place? And why turn it on by default?«
To make the Mac version appear more like the Windows version, I suspect, and thus provide a more uniform appearance across platforms. 

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Actually, to make the Mac version look like modern Apple/Mac applications that hide the background. If you do not like Apple's direction in applications, please let Apple know.

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»If you do not like Apple's direction in applications, please let Apple know.«
Valid advice, I’m afraid ... 

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heh, i too keep having to google for this answer every year or so. i keep looking in preferences too!

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Don't blame Apple. None of my other apps, including those from Apple, have a big, useless, obnoxious, solid-color backdrop window like this, whose only purpose seems to be for blocking me from seeing other apps or the desktop, or from being able to drag and drop to and from other apps. I too had to search the Web to figure out how to hide that. It is a user-hostile feature that should not be turned on by default.