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Wed, Dec 20, 2017 11:39 AM

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Photoshop: How do I make linked Smart Objects via drag and drop?

When I drag and drop a PSD  file, or make a smart object, enter it (by double click on the smart object layer) and save somewhere on my computer, it makes a copy of it and doesn't update one in the project.
What I mean is that the smart objects used to work as links for external files. Now, when i drag a PSD file and enter it, it seems to land in the temporary files (it's not linked with the dragged file and when you "save as" the root folder is temporary files). Furthermore, when I try to save the file that has somehow landed in teporary files (i understand new smart objects but not dragged ones) to have that linkage between the placed file and the project, it actually doesn't save the smart object in pointed place but makes a copy of it. I enter the smart object from the project and it's still in temp files...

I noticed there is and option in the menu File > Placed Linked... and it works as dragging worked before. However, this option is not that good, because I can't place multiple files in that way (like I have 40 products). Plus, the "Save as" in the "Linked Object" doesn't work as it worked before, which is also so so so annoing. It would be fine if there would be a window with "linked files" and relink option, but there isn't.... instead there's and option "Relink to file" but there's no make a copy of it so I can duplicate and relink these files... before if I wanted to make a new or a copy of smart object from the one  that was linked I just right clicked on the layer and presed "New Smart object via Copy". It landed in temp files but I could easyli enter it and save it wherever I wanted on my comp and the results ware shown in my project. So easy user friendly and straight forward option. Even a child could figure it out. Now I don't understand the whole concept of smart objects if they always end up in temp files and I can't save them - It's just nonsense. I can make a linked file from them and I will see the changes but It is so complicated to make another (different) linked file without choosing Menu > File > Place Linked... everytime.

There is no option, or I don't know  or noticed where it is, to have linked files when i drag and drop. Is it so hard to make an option in preferences for that if you make such a drastic change? Or to make a script that recognizes a type of the file and makes an embed if it's not layered or a link if it is? or at least a dialog box like for ai files? Or even why separating this? It worked so well! If I wanted to make a smart object from raster layer I just right clicked on layer and "Convert to smart Object", enter it end saved where i wanted. There was also same easy other way arround to make a raster from smart object. Now i can't see the point of making embed layers other than not to lose quality when you scale them - can't you go back to where it was with Smart Objects and make every raster graphics quality loseless?? Who even wants to have poor quality images when he scale them down and up again?

I don't understand, who makes those silly decisions, that instead of making this software easier and more user friendly is making it leaky, more complex and time consuming than it was before! 

I understand there are more and more options comming and you have to make a room for them. But you always force push all the changes without consulting it with the end user... Can't you make an "experimental" version of photoshop in Creative Cloud for download, and in it, all the new stuff (different than from the oficial version) would be marked with a border or highlighted somehow, with an option to coment them for the user (if you hover for a while over them a dialog box with comment window apears, or a small icon next to that option with some info graphic to open that dialog box)? And when there is a propper final product, take it to the official version (no more than once a year)? Anounce it and stay with these highlights for those that didn't participate to know something has changed.. It would be so handy for the users and problem solving for the photoshop team...

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Adobe Administrator

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3 years ago

Yep. What Earth says. Opt/Alt key modifies the behavior to use Linked instead of Embedded.

Sr. Product Manager, Adobe Digital Imaging

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3 years ago

There are 3 types of linked objects:
1) embeded
2) linked
3) in cloud

If you drag and drop file into PS you have embeded smart object. This means that you file is inside your parent PSD file. If you open smart object, it opens SO content and it creates temporary copy of this file in temp folder. But it is temporary copy. If you close photoshop, it will remove this files.

You need to rightclick on layer in layers panel and select "convert to linked". For each layer if you want real linked layer.

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I noticed that, but that's not straight forward solution at all. Why make ebeded objects if you can't modify the content of them? For scaling without loosing quality? Instead I preffer to have linked objects  all the time, and when i don't want to have direct link  i restirize them and convert  to smart object back again, or make Smart object via Copy. That was so good and easy solution... Why complicating it? Plus, I cant place more linked files with one action, I have to go all the way arround everytime - so annoying.

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But you CAN modify its content ;-) There is only annoaynce if you have JPG, PNG or one layer file and you are converting it into multilayered SO. You need to save if as new file and then replace SO content with this file.

I am not saying that this is good. I am just saying how it works.

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Sure, I understand what you saing but I don't understand why they separated this? What for? And if So why there's no option to choose which type of object you want when dragging onto the project? Im using photoshop for webdesign or baners mainly so I realy like when the bigger bits of my project (like banners) are in separate files (in designated shared folder) which i can then send to another person and he/she can modify them. Now, having the embed objects when I drag, first i need to convert them to linked, so the changes would be visable for him and for me. And when I forget to do it it's getting messy... plus  when im getting product photos which are not finished or are temps for photos, I need to do that idiotic routine for every one of them...

Sorry I'm bit frustrated - of course I don't blame you, I just hope someone from the Photoshop team will read this post and understand that this new idea is really annoing. They always make changes which were not 100% thought through. 

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There are 2 reasons. 
1) linked SO was added later. So PS smartObjects are "embeded-centric" from historical reasons
2) Adobe wants promote Cloud service (cloud smart objects). Convert embeded SO into cloud SO is a bit easier than into linked SO. They want to look like monthly subscription makes sense.

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3 years ago

if you want to drag multiple images into Ps as linked smart objects hold down opt/alt while dragging.

it's right there in the manual:
https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/create-smart-objects.html

you can also use the same process via Bridge. 

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3 years ago

Thank you so much, it works!! 
Anyways my bad, I should try all the options and alt,ctrl or shift combinations before posting this...