daniel_schallau's profile

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514 Points

Wed, Sep 9, 2015 10:28 PM

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Photoshop: Full version app for Apple iPad Pro

Now that Apple has a tablet with a stylus it would be great to see a FULL version of Photoshop CS that works on iOS. Please not an express program. Something that professionals can use. If anyone knows if this is in the works, please post. Thank you. Here's the link: http://www.apple.com/ipad-pro/

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394 Points

4 y ago

The iPad Pro and iPhone 7 run circles around the newest Intel Atoms and Celerons that can run Photoshop CC. It is as fast the older Broadwell i5 and i7 CPUs. (Check geekbench.) These Apple devices are really powerfull! It is not a question of hardware IMHO. It is a question of Adobe seeing a market and taking the newest iPad devices with pencils seriously and most importantly take me as a photographer-on-the-go serious!

Look, I love Adobe for the Photoshop CC and Lightroom CC and the Lightroom Mobile app on the iPad, but the other Photoshop Apps on iPad are lacking some serious functions IMHO. To be honest, I hate Adobe for killing the Photoshop Touch app - the closest thing we had to Photoshop CC on Mobile!

What I would love to see: the Photoshop apps on iPad get full DNG support, so you could edit your photos straight from Lightroom Mobile in Mix or Fix, without converting to JPG. I would love to see better layer blending and masking in Photoshop Mix, i.e. luminousity masks, gradient masks, etc., because I like to shoot bracketed. I would also love a HDR and Panorama stitching function in Lightroom Mobile. This all would prevent me from hauling my heavy Windows laptop with me when I am out shooting photos.

Come on, Adobe! Embrace this new mobile opportunity! There is a gap that needs to be filled!

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100 Points

4 y ago

Of all the peripheral apps that evolved from Photoshop, not one of the Adobe apps features the filters which are native to Photoshop desktop versions since the beginning. Specifically, photocopy filter and trace contour filters. Any and all knockoffs just don't compare. Id like to see that feature for my iPad.

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180 Points

4 y ago

Okay so here's my take on this - there are TONS of photo editing apps out there already for iOS. Based on what apps are currently offered by Adobe for iOS, you guys have just developed a lot of apps to do what all the other photo editing apps out there currently do. Probably better, but still the same things. The people who WANT to use your programs and apps don't want a photo editor that can make someone's hair blue or whatever. We want powerful editing capabilities on the go. We want the options of batch processing our RAW images because working on a tablet is much more convenient and appealing than working at desktop or on a laptop without TOUCH capabilities. You guys are seriously missing out on a HUGE market and losing current clients by not figuring out how to make this work with iOS faster. The current direction of the market is moving toward touch and on-the-go work. Please please please help us get there faster! Thank you!!

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374 Points

Exactly. As it stands, I'd have to buy half a dozen non-Adobe apps just to get a few more features that I use in PS on my computers. Sure, Adobe's mobile apps do some things a bit better than other free/cheap photo editing apps, but for anyone wanting to use the iPad Pro as their main device, it makes the entire cost of CC outrageous. Right now it'd make more sense to cancel the CC membership and spend the money on a bunch of apps that get you a convoluted workflow that ultimately gets you Photoshop-ish results.

I completely understand keeping the regular iPad and iPhones on the barebones Photoshop apps due to processing power, storage, and other features. But the iPad Pros have great CPUs and GPU chips, even more so with the refreshed line. They also have support for the Apple Pencil, some pro-oriented iOS features, and even a (basically desktop-class) file manager as of iOS 11. There's nothing hardware-wise that would prevent Adobe from porting their most popular CC apps over to the Pro.

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80 Points

I just received an offer to test a version of photoshop for the iPad Pro. Wondered if it was a real offer. The page looked like adobe but the link was a marketing company with a questionnaire. It didn’t ask for my adobe login. I left without responding to anything. Anyone see something similar?

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514 Points

If it isn't from Adobe it is probably phishing.  Especially if the URL didn't begin with "https"  They will be releasing it in the next few months so we need to just be patient.  I think they have all the testers they need at the moment.  
https://www.adobe.com/creativecloud/photoshop-ecosystem.html?promoid=8WLD54LQ&mv=other

I signed up to test Fresco, but never heard back from them.  A couple of my friends are however.  You might keep your eyes on Fresco too.  The paint engine looks beautiful.  
https://www.adobe.com/products/fresco.html

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202 Points

4 y ago

I want to be able to use all my brushes and filters while I'm doing digital drawing on my IPadPro. I hate that I seriously have to consider buying a Surface Pro for drawing, just to use Photoshop. Is creating  a full program for iOS impossible? I wasn't overly impressed with what we learned at the last Adobe Max, I feel like we're not getting what honestly need--not everyone is creating web applications (I do, but I could care less about that--its not that challenging with current tools) 

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394 Points

4 y ago

I have an old Core i7 laptop that runs Lightroom CC and Photoshop just fine. My iPad Pro is single core just as fast as the i7 and multicore the i7 is twice as fast, but it also has two cores more. (Source: Geekbench) My laptop has 8 GB of memory and the iPad Pro 12.9 4 GB of memory. I can't see that hardware is an issue, basically the iPad Pro is far better then the minimum specs for Photoshop CC.

The Lightroom Mobile app is absolutely a great app. To be honest, I prefer it over Lightroom CC because of the great and intuitive user interface and I can edit my photos lying on the couch... Or in the middle of nowhere. :) It still misses functions of the CC version and I most miss the great HDR and Panorama function of Lightroom CC in Lightroom Mobile. BTW Lightroom Mobile is also a very good app for shooting RAW pictures with your iPhone.

...But there simply is NO replacement on iOS for Photoshop CC. I almost tested all Photo apps free and paid. But there isn't. None. Noppes. Nada. You guys and girls at Adobe have a great opportunity. Again, please bring Photoshop CC to iOS. Don't miss out!

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374 Points

The Pros are even more powerful now- they just bumped them up to the A10X and claimed they can compete with a desktop i7 in graphics editing applications. I don't see any reason for Adobe NOT to port desktop apps to the iPad Pro at this point- unless they don't want to move developers to a new project/hire new iOS devs. But we pay enough for our CC subscriptions that this shouldn't even be an issue for Adobe.

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394 Points

Yep, the new iPad Pros are just as fast as my Core i7 Dell XPS15 laptop from 2012. (Source: Geekbench.) My laptop runs Lightroom CC and PhotoShop CC perfectly fine. Like I said, the hardware of the iPad Pros is not the problem. Affinity Photo is also proof the iPad Pros are fast enough. I made a 145 megapixel, aprrox. 1 GB (!!!) large panorama photo with Affinity Photo, consisting of 10 TIFF files of about 100 MB!!! Wow! Very impressive!

As much as I love what Serif did with Affinity Photo on iPad, I still would love to see a proper Lightroom and Photoshop for the iPad Pro.

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170 Points

4 y ago

Hey guys.
Someone already mentioned this a while a go but there is an application called Astropad. It lets you use the full functionality of the Apple Pencil and iPad Pro along with any desktop mac app.
I got it and I absolutely love it. Though it isnt a solution from adobe it is a flawless solution.

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374 Points

I've also heard good things about Astropad, but the entire point of the iPad Pro (at least, according to Apple) is to replace the laptop, not be an accessory. Sure, being able to use my iPad as a graphics tab is nifty. But the iPad Pro is capable of so much more- the new ones can compete with current-gen i7s in terms of computing/graphics power. Why would I want to lug around both an oversized iPad and my Macbook, when the iPad is easily capable of running a full-featured CC app if Adobe released one?

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202 Points

I'm sure everyone would much rather have a full version of Photoshop for iPad, but Adobe doesn't seem to be in a hurry to make one. So Astropad is all there is for the time being.

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394 Points

...And Duet display. :)

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5.5K Points

Have installed Astropad and Duett and yes you can do a few things but you cannot compare it with a direct installed PS on iPad.

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202 Points

4 y ago

I'll have to look into it. I don't think Adobe is providing a solution any time soon.

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170 Points

They actually have 2 versions. One is the standard that is basic stuff and then they have studio which is for more complex things. It depends on your needs.
The website is just Astropad.com

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394 Points

4 y ago

Great to hear about your Astropad experience. Would love to try it, but I have a Windows laptop, so I can't use Astropad (yet). I use Duet display sometimes, but it is far from perfect.

It also doesn't solve my other problem. When I am out shooting, I have a rucksack full of camera (and camping) gear and my iPad Pro. I don't want to bring my very heavy Windows laptop with me. For the weight I save, I can bring an extra lens or set of lenses with me. The iPad Pro is ideal for on the go photo editing. It's weight is low, battery lasts very long and iOS just simply works fantastic with your fingers or the pencil. It also does not have the quirks of Windows (update) and MacOS lacks touch support. Really, for me there is no substitute for iOS.

Lightroom CC and Photoshop CC on iPad would be awesome! There is an oportunity for Adobe.

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170 Points

Hey I also have duet display. Duet is also starting to ship duet display pro that, while not nearly as effective as Astropad as far as option, provides the tilt and pressure use of the Apple Pencil even on windows.
Hope that helps.
The website is duetdisplay.com/pro

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374 Points

4 y ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Photoshop for iPad Pro.

Now that Apple has announced the updated iPad Pro line, it seems like a great time for a full-featured version of Photoshop on these professional tablets. During the WWDC keynote today, it was mentioned that the new Pros can compete with current-gen i7's for photo/graphic work. Aside from the different CPU architecture, is there any real reason for Adobe to avoid bringing the full suite of features over to iOS (at least the iPad Pro)? Once iOS 11 hits we'll even have a file manager to move files around the device/network/cloud just as easily as on desktop.

Anyone willing to shell out $649/$799+ for an iPad Pro is obviously looking for a high-end tablet that can (at least partially) replace the laptop when they're out and about. The screens are awesome, they're more portable than even laptops, and the touchscreen consolidates a graphics tablet and computer into one piece of equipment. Considering the raw computing power stuffed into these iPads, and the number of paying CC subscribers that would love to be able to do heavier graphics work from these tablets, it seems like an easy choice to make.

While I'd love to see the full Creative Cloud suite come to iPad Pro, it's probably unreasonable to rebuild everything for the different architecture. It seems to me like Photoshop could be a good way to test the waters here, and if it gets good feedback, maybe consider Illustrator and some other apps in the future.

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202 Points

I think Photoshop is the only one that really needs it, the Illustrator app works fine, but I usually finish things in Photoshop, and thats where the frustration comes in

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240 Points

4 y ago

Jon, I imagine I was the first to reply to your Statement about the iPad Pro. You really kicked up a storm..Great work..From the replies there are a lot of disappointed  iPadPro users..Good work, now all we need is to have Apple to Do something, so that we can use full versions of PS. .Dick Betchley

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35K Points

4 y ago

If Affinity Photo can bring out a full functioning app for the iPad, I'm sure Adobe can stuff a lot of PS into one. Since they're pretty big on mobile apps, I hope they don't sit on the sidelines while everyone else gets established. It wouldn't surprise me at all if On1 wasn't already thinking about it, too. LR Mobile is a great idea, but it doesn't really go far enough.

Of course, Adobe may well be working on it and not ready to share.  So everybody be sure to vote.  '-}

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394 Points

Yep. Just bought it and gonna play with Affinity Photo. It also does 32bit HDR and panorama stitching , stacking and focus stacking on iPad it says! Wow! Looks like somebody is willing to fill the gap we see and experience.

I certainly hope Adobe steps up his game and comes with Photoshop CC and Lightroom CC for iOS.

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35K Points

I haven't pulled the trigger on an iPad Pro upgrade just yet. The first one I thought maybe they were taking baby steps to offering a tablet to compete with the Surface Pro. Now, I am more willing to upgrade by seeing Affinity Photo is going there, but I'd definitely upgrade for PS or ON1 Photo Raw. If Adobe drags its heels, On1 is enough like PS, I don't find it's much of a learning curve, and being able to do real editing on an iPad Pro makes the device worth the upgrade.

Do let us know after you've worked with Affinity Photo for a bit if it actually lives up to our anticipations, or if you find significant limitations. Whatever works, or more importantly, doesn't work on the iPad will quite likely reflect what we can also hope for from Adobe.

The one concern I have about Adobe even offering us a better iPad editing app than they have,  is Adobe has been offering mobile apps for free and may think they won't get their money back on development if they charge a reasonable price—that we'll be expecting them to offer it free through subscription. I can understand that offering the full app on an iPad costs a lot for them to develop, and simply folding it into our subscription might not make financial sense to them. But a reasonable price for something as specialized as a serious editor, and a direct connection to the desktop version if we need to make more specialized edits would be acceptable to a lot of folk. However, if both Affinity and On1 Photo Raw get there first and get established, the market for iPad Pro, which I doubt is huge, becomes considerably smaller.

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394 Points

Well, so far I can say that Affinity Photo is a great app. It istill is somewhat buggy, but you get extensive editing tools, it is a lot like PhotoShop and Lightroom in one. It only has one MAJOR FLAW for me: you can only open RAW photos from cloud storage and NOT from the photo app on the iPad. Major let down! :( This means that if I import photos via the SD to lightning adapter, I canot edit the RAW photos in Affinity Photo, but it'll open the embedded JPEG. So I still have to use 4g or WiFi and/or a laptop to share the RAW photos in the cloud and then I can use them in Affinity. But if they'll fix this in an update, Adobe is in serious trouble on the iPad (Pro) IMHO and I might end my subscription...

Edit: opening RAW photos with Affinity Photo from th photo app will be implemented in a future update.

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35K Points

> opening RAW photos with Affinity Photo from th photo app will be implemented in a future update.>

That's good to hear. Even LR Mobile can work with the Photos app. Not letting us directly transfer from our cameras would be a major drawback indeed. Thanks for the update.

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2K Points

3 y ago

I am definitely in support of a more complete Photoshop for iPad Pro. Both Affinity Photo and Pixelmator have shown both that the iPad Pro is now capable of running near-desktop applications, and that there is a demand for it. There are too many apps right now... Keep Express, and make a full-featured version that is subscription-only (as in part of the CC Subscription plans) that is at least on par with what Affinity Photo can do.

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1.4K Points

3 y ago

Apple can create a tablet under osx, just like Microsoft has done with Surface. Who likes microsoft that uses surface, who likes apple that uses ipad pro osx. Adobe do not waste your time reinventing the wheel. Spend more time on new features.

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5.5K Points

Yes, good point, but Adobe is currently wasting a lot of time to maintain these many single Apps like PS Express, PS Mix, PS Fix and LR CC.

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70 Points

3 y ago

With Affinity Photo, Pixelmator,  and now with Clip Studio Paint having a perfect translation of their desktop app onto the iPad Pro (I think it actually runs better on the iPad Pro) any excuses as to why Photoshop isn't on the iPad Pro are just that,  excuses.  There's no reason why they can't make a version for the iPad Pro,  and I mean a full version,  not these little apps that you have for it, like Sketch where its so limited,  its not usable for me for pro use.   Its disappointing to see Adobe fall behind in the game and letting their competition let them look bad.

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35K Points

3 y ago

> Apple can create a tablet under osx, just like Microsoft has done with Surface. Who likes microsoft that uses surface, >

I think Apple made it pretty clear when they came out with the iPad Pro that they're not planning anytime soon to undercut sales of either their laptops (very popular) or their iPads (also very popular) by coming out with a hybrid that is neither. Unless Adobe has Apple insider information that a tablet is due out any day now, I don't think Adobe should wait on them. They need to start competing with the other image editing apps on mobile devices now if they want to take the market.

They were among the leaders for the mobile apps when all those devices were underpowered, finding ways to get around device limitations and giving us something we could take to the desktop easily. Now that we have a high-powered iPad Pro available to us, I sincerely hope they are hard at work on how to translate it  to the iPad Pro without dumbing it down to "mobile device" level.  The iPad Pro has some serious processing power that changes our expectations of mobile devices. We'd pay for a good image editing app from Adobe. They don't have to offer it in the App Store for free. It's a costly enterprise, but the longer they leave us without something, the stronger their competition obviously becomes.