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332 Points

Wed, Apr 4, 2012 7:56 PM

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Photoshop: Free Transform - ability to set Maintain Aspect Ratio as default

In Photoshop, it would be nice when "free transforming" a layer that the "maintain aspect ratio" lock button would maintain the previous setting, or some other way to set the default mode. I'm frustrated that I have to click it each time I'm resizing a bunch of items individually. Thanks.

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Adobe Administrator

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740 Messages

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16.4K Points

2 years ago

Hi Everyone,

Thank you for contributing to this discussion. Proportional transform is now the default behavior on Photoshop 20.0 with all but vector graphics. Photoshop 20.0 is available for download today. Please open the Creative Cloud app, download the update and let us know how it goes for you. If you do not see the update immediately, sign in and sign out of the Creative Cloud.

Thank you,
Hannah

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162 Points

Hallelujah!  Thank you for making this change!  I'm on my way to China on business--will download the update as soon as it becomes available.  Just in time for our new catalog!  Thank you Adobe!

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416 Points

Brilliant! Took a while but it'll be a nice fix for an annoying little issue. Thanks Adobe.

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100 Points

Meh, I preferred it the other way. I've been using photoshop for 20 years, I don't think changing default behaviors at version 20 is making your software easier to use.

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Some behaviours they were not bugs that were present for so long shouldn't be changed from release to release so drastically ie. without giving choise the method we want to use them - the more we were used to do that other that after end could be more convinient for us.

Personally that one change doesn't matter for me, it's even better, however I have to see it in practise, so maybe not... but there are some other that annoyed me we have nothing to say about:

https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/digital-imaging-october-max-2018-release-note...

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248 Points

I can't stand it, myself. Holding "Shift" while something is selected has always been the universal way to "constrain proportions." It's even how you continue to constrain proportions in other parts of photoshop, like cropping. Now we have to "unlearn" this skill for one item—free transform. Because holding "Shift" there does the OPPOSITE of what it does everywhere else. It "un sets" constrain proportion. Isn't there a way to set this default for Free Transform back to what it was before for those of us who use graphics software as pros and know to hold down "Shift?"

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1.2K Points

8 years ago

Or, at the very least, set the toggle permanently for all objects or, even, that object. Setting a default might be too much, but switching back after every single transform commit is idiotic.

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194 Points

Then you'd have the opposite problem.

Look. This isn't a problem. The problem is that the user is forgetful or too lazy to click the lock.

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146 Points

Look, this is a problem. The problem is not that the user is lazy or forgetful, but that the UI forces the user to repeatedly select the same action again and again. That's the problem, and simply put: that's poor UI design.

We're asking the UI accomodate a user preference, not force a predetermined setting. If you would never use it, it would not affect you and you probably don't get why it would be useful. But if you have been feeling the pain, like myself and others who have commented on this thread, then having a preference setting (whether global or sticky) would be a huge relief.

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194 Points

Use the shift+alt key!

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146 Points

Read the past thread as to why this won't work!

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Dear Mister Smarty Pants, first of all, shift+alt key doesn't even work. Whenever you try to do a free transform, the percentage at the top is never equal to each other even using shift+alt. It's always off by either a 1% and sometimes that's can distort logos and icons that are very small. The only way to resolve that problem is by clicking the chain.

I ask you to try this yourself and if by miracle you can get the H & W the same exact percentage without hitting the chain, I will come to your house and lick your fingers for magical essence. Because there's zero way you are helping this forum by commenting silly known solutions, than understanding the problem.

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3.5K Points

8 years ago

I guess adobe had to pick one of the modes as a default, but you can always hold the shift key down to constrain the proportions.

Champion

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The OP referred to a »Numeric Free Transform«, what good is the shift-key there?

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122 Points

7 years ago

Seriously Adobe, your users are asking for this feature for 10 years... http://www.webmaster-talk.com/general...

We have to click this little button EACH TIMES we wants to resize something with fixed dimensions.

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162 Points

6 years ago

Totally agree... having this would make life abundantly easier.

This should also be a very simple feature add: We're talking just a check-box in Preferences -> Interface that says "Keep aspect ratio by default for free transforms", set an internal variable to reflect this value and include this when saving/loading the preferences. Then, do a simple check when you enter free transform pseudo-code: if user-preference-set-for-aspect-ratio-freeze then activate-link-button. Total lines of code should be less than 10.

Sometimes, it's the small enhancements that really can make a big difference.

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194 Points

6 years ago

Sadly Adobe seem more interested in adding things like tree, flame and frame filters than adding simple workflow quick wins these days

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90 Points

6 years ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Photoshop: Constrain proportions in free transform.

PS CS6, make it possible to choose constrain proportions when using the move tool to resize selections or layers, like it is in PSE. Have asked in this thread:

http://forums.adobe.com/message/44966...

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416 Points

6 years ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Default tranform option - maintain aspect ratio.

When I use the tranform controls to resize an element is there any way to say always resize with the same aspect ratio as the original other than holding down the shift key? The vast majority of the time I simply want my element to be simply resized, not distorted.

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400 Points

6 years ago

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE fix this! I too have to click this dang box EVERY time I transform an object, which is many, many times a day. When does an object NOT get transformed in Photoshop and WHEN would we NOT want it to have the aspect ratio maintained?! I would have paid an upgrade price just for this ONE improvement. You could save us more time than a faster program with this fix. Please make it a priority for an update!

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If you are dragging, then you can use the shift key to maintain the aspect ratio. The button is mostly needed when entering the transform sizes numerically.

And many transformation do not preserve the aspect ratio of the original object.

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Since you have a CS background, you know the difference between implementation semantics and usability. That is, you can build something a number of difference ways, all of which provide the same functionality. But, some implementations are inherently more user-friendly than others.

By the same token, highlighting additional steps to access a feature is an argument based on pure semantic equivalence and ignores usability. The request in this thread is to eliminate these additional steps. Adding a global preference would significantly improve usability, especially for those of us that are asking for it.

Also, given that the cost of implementation should be minimal, there's really no good argument against this.

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I was responding to specific points by Suzanne.

You may also notice that at no point did I say "no", or "that's not a good idea", or any other phrase that might in any way indicate that I don't agree with the request. I simply responded to a few issues in Suzanne's post.

Also, you really don't know my background. So setting up a straw man argument based on bad assumptions of my background really doesn't help.

(also, your prior assumptions on the complexity of code needed to implement this - are pretty far off)

It would be far more helpful to describe why you need such a feature, and how it would save time/effort. That would make it much easier for me to justify to the product managers while I'm trying to figure out how to implement it with appropriate UI and without a lot of hassle.

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Dear Chris,

I'm not trying to be belligerent, but I think the reasons for why we are asking for this feature are adequately documented in this thread already. Just look at Suzanne's post, the essence of which is repeated throughout the thread. While it is true that you did not deliberately call it a bad idea, your response of using the shift-modifier has been offered a few times in the thread already. It gets a little frustrating when the nature of the request keeps getting ignored.

Since you ask for detail, I will offer you how it affects me... I use Photoshop a lot for layout tasks, and that frequently involves placing all sorts of elements (pictures, text, etc) and resizing them. 100% of the time, "resizing" means "maintain aspect ratio." My pictures are product images, which I've photographed. But the photographs typically have one item and usually are done at different times (as new product is released), so the camera setup is always different. That means I have to size-correct my images as part of doing layout, so all the items in one series that are 10" tall are actually the same final size. Similarly, other items on the page that are smaller/larger need to be proportionally adjusted. The free-transform drag to resize just doesn't work for me--I need the precision of pixels. And, yes, it is a pain to always have to check the same "maintain aspect ratio" box every time I select one of the 30-40 images on my page (multiply this by 30+ pages in my case). I can only imagine that the other commentators in this thread also find themselves constantly going back to check this box, hence their frustration.

My request is for a global preference, but you say that this is significant work. You're right that I don't know the Photoshop code base. Another poster suggested just keeping this box checked once selected, similar to how one can change the scaling from "%" to "px" and this is retained between selecting other layers. Both of these suggestions would solve the problem, which is that I have to check this same box repeatedly and often. If you can find another solution, that would be great, but let's leave shift-drag aside as it just won't do.

Feel free to contact me directly if you have any questions.

Thx.

-ml

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Suzanne's post is similar to others here that are lacking in the needed details. I responded to start a conversation in order to get details.

Thank you for providing more details about your work. Yes, a photo layout workflow would involve more aspect ratio preservation than, say, a web or phone design workflow (which is more about arbitrary sized rectangles and rounded rectangles). And if you don't have preset grids/guides to follow, you would need to use numeric entry to scale the photos to all match in size.

Having the aspect ratio button sticky (like units and other items) might work - but I actually do have to take all the common workflows into consideration before making such a change. So the more we know about the workflows, the better.

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194 Points

6 years ago

For me it's all about the Reference Point Location during a transform.

Having to manually set it to the top left for every transform (as that's what i do 99% of the time) for me is an even bigger issues than the locking of the aspect ratio.

Say i've got a bunch of images i need to size and align properly to a grid.

I'll start by putting the top left hand corner of the image where i want it to be, then transform to scale to the size i want it by dragging the bottom right corner of the transform handles.

Having to alway reset the Reference Point Location to the top left is frustrating.

So i'd suggest remembering the last set Reference Point Location and the Maintain Aspect Ratio setting is the better approach.

Remembering these settings is what happens in Illustrator by default, and some unification of workflow across the tools can only help.

Rob

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The reference point is a different issue, not directly related to this topic.

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400 Points

6 years ago

I'm sorry I didn't give enough detail Chris! I am a graphic designer and most of what I bring into Photoshop has to do with package design. 99.9% of everything that I scale HAS to maintain the aspect ratio, such as logos, photos, products, etc. I'd rather uncheck the box for the .1% of the time that I might need to un-proportionally resize a gradient background, etc. Very little of the art I produce in Photoshop is abstract.

I also usually end of scaling my objects numerically instead of shift dragging. Much as Markus relates, I have to scale photos of products by the same value when placed in the same file. Numerically is the best way to do this. I use Smart Objects for this all the time, which is wonderful for being able to see the scale of the object even after it's been scaled. The "maintain aspect ratio" button is CRITICAL!

Having the checkbox be 'sticky' would indeed solve the problem. Much like the crop tool checkbox of "Delete cropped pixels" does. I have gotten in the necessary habit of glancing up to see if it's checked or not, based on my last usage. Glancing takes WAY less time than having to go to check the box every single time I use it.

I can't possibly tell you how much time it would save me! TONS! Plus the irritation of having to check it every single time. Does all of that make sense and can you see how frustrating it would be to check that box hundreds of times a day?

Thanks for listening!

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That's ok, most people don't include that sort of info we need to justify features to management. I think I understand the needs, but don't know for sure - so try to get some conversation going to get the info and make sure we do understand everyone's needs.

Hmm, yeah, packaging design with signature logos, photos, and product shots is something that really, really needs to preserve aspect ratio most of the time. Yep, makes perfect sense.

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400 Points

No, not MOST of the time but ALL of the time. When have you ever had a client ask you to distort their logo or product?!? This is the MOST frustrating issue with Photoshop and would make me the most happy if it changed. Please make it STICKY!

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400 Points

5 years ago

Well, I'm placing Illustrator art into Photoshop, and it MUST maintain aspect ratio, so I've clicked that checkbox dozens of times today! I would pay anyone a good bit of money if they'd make a plugin just to maintain aspect ratios when scaling. I can't wait for Adobe to see how elementary this request is and please, please, please implement this in the next update. Is it difficult to change this? Please just make it sticky!!! It's especially frustrating when working on a large monitor, which I am. Who do I have to bribe?

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4.5K Points

5 years ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled PHOTOSHOP - Transform / Scale - Maintain Aspect Ratio default.

Please allow us to keep our preference on this. It gets really, really, really old having to select the tiny little link button every single time. Maintaining proportions of an image should be the default anyway.

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4.5K Points

5 years ago

Adobe, you going to do anything at all for this very basic request that shouldn't even have to be requested to begin with?

I mean honestly, how many people did you guys have in your test groups that weren't concerned with maintaining the ratio of their photos and wanted to distort them freely most of the time? This is just a no-brainer.

Oh, and if management deems it OK to provide a feature requested by the people buying thier product monthly now, see if it's not too much to ask that they allow you to fix this all the way back to CC 2014.

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60 Points

5 years ago

Apparently adobe has already been a engineering thinking program with a CEO knows nothing about art but marketing, look how flash ends up with adobe. People most time need a picture scaling to main aspect, but adobe doesn't think so, while interested in adding trees flames and frames stuffed into a 2d app to make it a 2G fat freak.