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Mon, May 21, 2012 9:47 AM

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Photoshop CS6: Move tool targeting imprecise

Move Tool annoyance in Photoshop CS6.
I use the move tool alot in my work, with high fidelity mockups for interface design. I rely on precision and predictability in my workflow. In Photoshop CS6 with the move tool set to auto-select layer, i would suspect the move tool to select the excact element im targeting at which it doesn't. it automatically selects nearby elements, which is a HUGE annoyance and disturbance. It ruins the workflow, and it's unpredicable.

Is there at least an option to remove this behaviour and just make it precise as in previous versions of photoshop?

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8 years ago

Any news on this issue? :)

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106 Points

7 years ago

Jeffrey or Chris,

could you please disclose at least the rough estimate when this issue will be fixed and why it takes so long?

The community is waiting!

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182 Points

7 years ago

So after 8 months I still absolutely hate this feature and I actually feel angry when I see 'new' Photoshop features released when this hasn't been fixed.

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62 Points

7 years ago

I'm a UI designer so for me it is also absolutely annoying bug. It is difficult to understand why it is such a problem to fix it, or just put checkbox (somewhere) to turn that "feature" on/off. Adobe, please make PSCS6 not worse than the previous version, it is a tool for professionals but CS6 reduced our productivity in this place. Of course I can still use the previous version, but how long should we wait (and why we bought CS6)? I'm not sure about moving to CC version in the future. :(

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124 Points

7 years ago

It seems very illogical why you wouldn't give the end user a way off turning this "feature" off. Extremely annoying when designing UI's or any other documents where tight spacing is required.
Another example of a big company failing to respond to user feedback.

Another criticism, why don't your software teams share code. Some of the features in Fireworks, such as convert marquee to path, are far superior to their equivalent in Photoshop.

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208 Points

7 years ago

This issue is a huge pain for UI work. Not sure why such an issue would take over a year to address.

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1.1K Points

This issue plus a gazillion more like this one.

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70 Points

7 years ago

http://www.bohemiancoding.com/sketch/
- I've switched for UI work.

And Macaw isn't far off release I hear.
http://macaw.co/

Photoshop wont last as the tool of choice for web designers - they don't listen to us, and they're a bloated company that has to charge high prices to survive.

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162 Points

7 years ago

just want to chime in to hopefully encourage the PS team to hurry the #@% up. this bug sucks; what a disaster "upgrading" to CS6 has been. In my experience it's the buggiest PS (or rather PoS) upgrade yet.

It's definitely not just auto-slect. I right click with the move tool all the time to quickly select layers visually instead of scrolling up and down a layers palette full of 100s of layers. Oh, how useful! You're showing me 25 other nearby layers! Joy!

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118 Points

7 years ago

waiting sooo long.

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7 years ago

11⁄2 years waiting for nothing... Now my company has upgraded to CC. Problem fixed, BUT now the "Zoom when sliding mouse from side to side" is the new issue. Cant seem to switch it off. Again this is an introduction of a new behaviour that has been working fine in many generations that is now changed without possibility to switch off.

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64 Points

7 years ago

C'mon Adobe, still no fix? This issue lowers productivity.

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7 years ago

Ulrik

Is the layer you are targeting set to less than 50% opacity? Or is the portion of a 100% opacity layer that you are clicking on have less than 50% opacity?

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340 Points

7 years ago

Chris - just tested 50% vs. other opacities with selection and it doesn't seem to make a difference, unfortunately. The triangular vector layer shown in this screenshot is completely un-selectable at 100% (10px wide). Are there any updates on this issue, Chris/Jeff?

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7 years ago

Can you send me that image? Retoucherpro@mac.com

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340 Points

You want the actual PSD file or the screenshot?

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194 Points

PSD if you can... it doesn't have to be hi-res. Just so I can try to replicate whats going on. I'm not getting this on my images.

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340 Points

(Sent). Thanks.

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194 Points

Ok... this is working for me on my PS with both Groups and individual Layers. Are you on Photoshop CC or PSCS6?

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340 Points

CS6, sorry I didn't mention earlier. Mavericks.

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194 Points

OK..thanks. Did this work for you on 10.8?

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We had CS5.5 on our 10.8 installations, so hard to compare, but no - before CS6 pointer precision reflected object directly under tip pixel of arrow, now there seems to be a lot of rounding going on, as earlier comments describe.

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-- Just checked on a coworker's machine (OS X 10.7, with Photoshop CS6) and experience the same issue.

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194 Points

The only way that I have been able to reproduce this is with the option to Show Transform Controls turned on. With it on it selects what I am targeting and leaves it in Transform mode... which means that selecting something adjacent to it, even within 10 pixels, makes it impossible to select because its expecting to do a transform on the previously selected pixel area. I can select something else OUTSIDE of the transform area with no problem.
Turning off the Show Transform Controls allows me to select anything regardless of how close or how far away the object is.
I'm not saying that this is the issue that you are experiencing but
PS has always worked this way with the settings that you sent to me.

Try unchecking the setting and see if it clears up your problem. I realize that its beneficial to have the setting selected for designing purposes as transforming is convenient. But if you aren't doing a lot of transforms then turning of the Transform Controls makes sense.

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Chris - thanks for the explanation on targeting around currently selected transform controls. That does ring true as to how I always experienced them (a large transform buffer around currently selected transforming layers), but that is not the trouble I am experiencing.

Even with transform controls off, and completely deselecting all neighboring layer objects, I am still unable to target that small element.

Please check back in about 40 minutes to see this short screen recording: https://vimeo.com/79908370

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194 Points

Will do. Are you using a Wacom tablet? Wacom Pen? Wacom Mouse? or a third party input device?

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Magic Mouse - on my coworker's computer, too. Video is ready now!

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7 years ago

That little piece of vector is set to 50% ... but it should still work. See vid...

However, as I said previously 50% density, layer opacity etc can cause it to select the nearest solid object/pixel.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/r2bhdaa0qve...

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My first post here already explains that changing that small triangular vector to 100% opacity / 100% fill makes no difference with the difficulty of selection. I tried again to be sure but it does not matter in my case what the targeted layer's opacity/fill is.

Secondly, your video shows the document zoomed up several times from 100%. At 100% and even at 150%, I cannot select it. If I zoom in to 300% or more, I have no difficulty selecting that layer.

The issue here is that at 100% zoom, the object that is selected with the V tool does not match the object I am targeting under the tip of the mouse cursor.

Before CS6, as long as I was accurately hovering the cursor over the pixels of the layer I wanted to select, it would select, at 100% document zoom, which is what my example video and issue was recorded at.

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You made no mention of it happening at that view.... However...even as far back as PS 5 it still had the same issue at 100% view... see video.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/r02eahgu0yo...

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Ah my bad - I originally said "un-selectable at 100%" but I realize that was ambiguous as to whether it referred to opacity or zoom. Waiting for your video to load...

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The links for your latest vid doesn't seem to be working :(