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Mon, May 21, 2012 9:47 AM

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Photoshop CS6: Move tool targeting imprecise

Move Tool annoyance in Photoshop CS6.
I use the move tool alot in my work, with high fidelity mockups for interface design. I rely on precision and predictability in my workflow. In Photoshop CS6 with the move tool set to auto-select layer, i would suspect the move tool to select the excact element im targeting at which it doesn't. it automatically selects nearby elements, which is a HUGE annoyance and disturbance. It ruins the workflow, and it's unpredicable.

Is there at least an option to remove this behaviour and just make it precise as in previous versions of photoshop?

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8 years ago

Same problem! Very unhappy and disappointed about this!

I'm now constantly zooming in and out to get past the 9px "selection assist" buffer zone around vector objects.

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102 Points

8 years ago

Just adding to the topic with the same frustrating problem. All my illustrations are done in Photoshop and are built of 100's of vector shapes and raster layers small and large and using "auto select" is the only way to work, which you now cannot use very well but worked great in every previous version of Photoshop. Have been using Photoshop since the first Photoshop 6.

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164 Points

8 years ago

Good News:
I thought I should point out that at the top of the feed it now says acknowledged
Bad News:
Now all we need do is wait a further 5 months for a resolution. ;)

Tip:
For all of you finding this a big pain in the behind like me - there is a usable workaround I found. If you just moving or selecting items hit ctrl + H to hide the transform controls you instantly get accurate selection. Not ideal but better than nothing to hold you all over.

On another note:
Does anyone else find that when you have the colour picker open the flick panning doesn't work correctly? - in that you cant flick twice until the first animation is complete... may be hardware specific as this requires gpu support.

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Yup, it's reassuring to see the issue being aknowledged officially. Our only hope now is that the when there is some news on whatever might be going on backstage, it will be shared regardless of a long time frame, it's just nice to know what the scope is (This was a friendly plead to you Chris Cox :) )

On your other note:
I just tried the flick panning out, I have the same issue.

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102 Points

It seems to be okay to me so far. I am using a Mac Pro with OS X 10.7.5 if that is relevant information.

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164 Points

UPDATE:
Yeah I found out last night that this is windows only it seems... I have added the bug in a separate feed.

http://feedback.photoshop.com/photosh...

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This issue is comically frustrating for me because I use CS5 (which doesn't exhibit this selection issue) at work, but then go home and use CS6, and when I do I suddenly have to "re-adjust" to the unwanted selection buffer. Always takes me aback the first time it happens - I automatically assume I'm not clicking in the right spot or there's some non-visible pixel I'm clicking by accident.

In other words, my personal experience with this issue well illustrates the uncomfortable disparity in cursor behaviors because unlike most users that just switch from CS5 to CS6 ONCE, I switch back and forth constantly haha.
(My constant switching isn't Adobe's fault of course. And it makes dealing with other changes difficult as well, even positive ones.)

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Hey matt - did you see my work around - its not so bad...

Workaround / Tip:
If you are just moving or selecting items hit ctrl + H to hide the transform controls you instantly get accurate selection. Not ideal but better than nothing to hold you all over till the fix comes.

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Thank you for re-highlighting that, FT. Good find.

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Am I missing something... How does hiding the path or transform controls remove the issue?

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To be honest I haven't tested this yet (still at work). Maybe it only works when Transform Controls is turned on??? That's one of the first things I turn off with a new Photoshop install . . .

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110 Points

The hiding (ctrl h) tip doesn't work for me.

On a side-note - Speaking of switching between CS5 and 6, I do the same. How annoying are you finding the removal of the 'arrange documents' button in CS6?

So useful in CS5 and now only accessible from the menu dropdown in CS6.
Slows the workflow down, bigtime.

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Removal of the arrange docs buttons sucks!

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Likewise... Who ever switches on 'show transform controls' or 'auto-select layer/group'? Simply hold ctrl and click to select a layer and then use ctrl-t for transform when you require it... Hiding the path or transform controls doesn't remove the problem. For a second I thought there was an actual work-around ha ha. Oh well...

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The arrange docs button made it into illustrator and indesign, but not photoshop. Major wtf.

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At least there is a work-around for that one within Windows > Arrange, albeit a little lengthier. You can create a short-cut if you do need quick switching.

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True that, still, I like that button.

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164 Points

Well on a windows machine - hiding the transform controls makes my auto select work as per cs5 (you click and select what you are clicking not a nearby object).The only drawback is you have turned your controls off so knowing what you have selected is a little trickier (but you can hit ctrl + h to get them back up again or ctrl + T if you are actually wanting to transform)

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It boils down to ui theory - what is the right balance? Should PS devs give us every button conceivable accessible in ONE click -OR- or hide most buttons and create a "nicer" looking ui?

In this case, there's blank toolbar just sitting there so why not use it? Furthermore, why remove it when it was there previously? I'm all for progress and the progressive refinement of Photoshop . . . but this was a bad choice, IMO.

K . . . what was this thread about again? haha I guess a little off-topic action is ok if within replies to a post, rather than making new posts. Forum etiquette! whoo (now I'm getting off-topic, in an off-topic subject; off-topic'ception.

But, continuing with the ui thing . . . WHAT IF . . . PS adopted more of the "ribbon" approach (like Microsoft Office Work, Excel, etc)

-AND-

allowed the customization of the tabbed ribbon toolbar? How great would that be?

ribon

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Hey FT, is that even when the two shape layers (and this problem is specifically with shape layers) are overlapping with less than 10px of the lowest layer visible? Cheers, B

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8 years ago

OK - no excuses - I was pretty sure that the work around was indeed working - it must have been a moment of insanity - I just went and tested and I was wrong.

Sorry for the false hope.

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what a spanner.

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:) You're forgiven... Now Adobe since there is no work-around please get a move on and fix the problem. Thanks.

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Np, F T.

@ Billy - seconded!

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118 Points

8 years ago

I have recently gotten my company to invest in CS6, I am desiging high fidelity web design mockups, and also GUI's for apps and interfaces,

This is driving me to the edge, it's incredibly frustrating to have photoshop ignore the location of my mouse cursor and to assume that I am making a mistake and 'correct' it for me.

My cursor is where I want it to be, and I am clicking on what I intend to be clicking on. I need precision, I don't want photoshop to second guess my movements. It's really disrupting my work and I'm considering downgrading to CS5.

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8 years ago

Well put.

Adding to your post - the ones most troubled by this change are the ones doing ui it looks like - the guys that deal with lots of little tiny layers, often VECTOR layers. We've spent years honing our mouse accuracy/hand-eye coordination. I can guesstimate pixels on the screen quite well, move my mouse very accurately pixel by pixel, I know exactly where my cursor's hotspot is, etc etc. . .

But now PS is saying, "Oh, you clicked 9px away from your actual target, silly! Here let me default to selecting that layer you didn't even click for you! High-five pal, we got it!!!"
Errrrr no . . .

To the dev(s) responsible for the 9px buffer variable, just change the "9" to a "0". There. I'll pay you anything. Kidding, kidding. But seriously . . .

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102 Points

8 years ago

I've just begun working with PsCS6 and I noticed this issue right away. I may be mistaken, but didn't there used to be a preference for clicking and auto selecting that would enable/disable this feature?

Why would Adobe remove this preference and then impose it completely (and quite inaccurately)? I just got my company to purchase this, too.

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70 Points

8 years ago

ADOBE - fix this mofos. Not usable.
UI stuff too.

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182 Points

8 years ago

Big update today and yet this issue is not fixed... WHY????????????????????

FFS this is annoying. It has soured the new features in the update for me. I really don't care for looking at the new features now after seeing that this has not been fixed.

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96 Points

8 years ago

I've found the solution, I just downgraded to CS5.1 :) I've used CS6 for 1-2 days only

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62 Points

8 years ago

Please FIX/CHANGE this, I really am considering "downgrading" back to CS4 because it's that critical to my workflow. It's all too important that our move tool is as accurate as possible, I don't see how this is seen as a "feature"

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62 Points

8 years ago

Same problem here. Incredibly annoying and frustrating.

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102 Points

8 years ago

I'm running Ps CS6 on Windows 7 x64 and while I did notice this behavior several times when I first installed a couple months ago, I cannot replicate the issue now.

I've created an image similar to the ones posted in this thread and cannot seem to make the problem occur. Anyone else with the same setup try it and get back to us with what you find?

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Did you create the image using shapes? This is an issue with selecting shape layers not normal art layers. Certainly, and annoyingly, I still have problems selecting shape layers on the same set up you are running.

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Y'know what? I did not, no. I'll check using shapes. I hope Adobe updates this quickly given that it's been an issue for a long time.

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8 years ago

Did you create the image using shapes? This is an issue with selecting shape layers not normal art layers.

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62 Points

8 years ago

Can we get a delivery date on this bugfix already? I've been silently following the issue for five months and am rather appalled by the lack of support so far. This is a critical issue for customers paying a lot for something broken.