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3.2K Points

Mon, Oct 15, 2018 6:10 PM

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Photoshop CC 2019: Transform/Resize is constrained by default - Want ability to go back to legacy behavior

When selecting a layer and dragging a corner handle with the shift (or alt-shift) key pressed, the resize proportion isn't constrained. This started with this most recent update.

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10 Messages

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294 Points

2 years ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Would like to revert to 2018 cropping behavior.

The bright minds at Adobe have reversed the functioning of the shift key as a modifier for the crop tool, so that instead of making it a fixed ratio, it makes it free-form. I crop far more often using free-form rather than fixed ratio, so for me this increases time needed for making what used to be simple adjustments. I have used Photoshop since the mid-1990s and I see no reason for this change. Please allow me to revert to the 2018 cropping, much as you allow Classic Mode other functions.

All other Adobe products use shift to set not free the proportions. This is a break with standards that have been in place for decades, and I don't see a good reason for it.

3 Messages

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152 Points

2 years ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Resize text not working (Mac/Mojave).

In prior releases, you could resize text with the SHIFT key pressed to keep the aspect ratio correct.   As of Photoshop CC 2019, this feature is broken and no longer working.   I depend on this feature for aspect correctedness. 

Can someone explain why this feature was removed or if this was an oversight?

204 Messages

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4.1K Points

2 years ago

Just saw this email ---- November 2018 (version 20.0.1) release
https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/fixed-issues.html

They said they fixed some bugs... whos willing to try ?
Not Me. I am sticking with 2018 until I hear better news.
Happy camper with v19.1.0

631 Messages

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9.6K Points

Still nothing done about transformation behaviour, or at least giving simple option to en/disable it.

540 Messages

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12.3K Points

TangCanada Me too!

I'm not using v20 until it's completely fixed and until I see happy, satisfied comments about the new version.

I'm happy using v19. I can't trust the new version.

631 Messages

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9.6K Points

I had the same about CC 2018, that I only kept installed but still used CS6 EXTENDED. I was saying like you I won't start to use it until they fix bugs I met and reported. What happened? They didn't sort them out at all, though I have been told they do it in next update, then future one and so on :/

Now they released CC 2019 where those bugs are still part of, while we experience many of another ones! Then we have first update they fix current bugs but still forgeting in first instance to do something with earlier ones :/

So neither I can use CC 2018 nor CC 2019, and even if bugs I'm saying they cared of finally for CC 2019, I could not use it again since how valuable would it be without bugs I waited to be fixed if new ones got introduced while new 'so-called features' disrupt my usual work.

We are now in most popular topic refered to current release, but after a month that they do is ignoring that fact by fixing less expected bugs to be sorted out!

4 Messages

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396 Points

I think it's time we start a letter writing (old school will be more effective) to the the Adobe Board of Directors: https://www.adobe.com/about-adobe/leaders/board-directors.html. I would ask that current top three levels of Adobe "leadership" be fired. We need to become activists and let the company know our displeasure as customers. I'm suspecting that Adobe may be monitoring this conversation and that they're just waiting for the smoke to blow over so they can continue on as they always have. If we want change we must be relentless in communicating our needs and desires. We are paying customers: Adobe exists because of us. Yes, I know this is much easier said than done, but if not now, when?

631 Messages

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9.6K Points

We are like ants that humans beyond our world can't understand their needs. They try to "help" by bulding tunels, bridges and everything our community could grow up but since they can not live in our bodies - everything they do is more about what they guess that is better for us. Other bad side of it is we are during neverending experiment closed by its hermetic frames with no chance to say understable word. When a group by chance will get out they made enhacements to detain us and prevent from another escaping attempt. When they are getting bored or think we can't feel good with stagnancy we have to adapt to new challenges by stepping backward and start over that we were satisfied with. In worst case they make fun observation how we behave when they ruin our well built constructions.

540 Messages

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12.3K Points

2 years ago

Can someone tell me if the Constrain Button on the toolbar in PS cc 20.0.1 is fixed with the update?
I won't be installing the new version until all the bugs have been fixed.

Cheers!

631 Messages

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9.6K Points

I had 20.0.1 till now. When I wanted to check that you ask and launched Ps it made my computer got stuck. That was happening from the day I installed version 20. Once - few times a day. Now to be sure whether that is real cause I uninstalled it and finally all is okey! I do not know why noone reported it, but my computer doesn't accept latest Ps even when I don't use it, since from time to time in random situations entire system is getting frozen.

24 Messages

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1.1K Points

Are you by any chance using an old OS?

PS 2019 is a train wreck, but it never locked my iMac up.

631 Messages

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9.6K Points

I use the latest update for Windows 10. I have also installed that day CS6 again. I don't know maybe having these two versions at same time make a problem, but so far with previous releases both of them didn't affect conflict. That's the only suspiction as I couldn't determine the cause of this more than preprexling behaviour. So maybe sole Ps 20 (with/out update) causes the freezing problem.

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276 Points

2 years ago

This is a huge mistake. Thoughtless, careless, and borderline offensive. We rely on a stable system, and you can't just go reversing behaviors for no damn reason. You might as well start switching up the tool hotkeys. Make (e) select the brush and (b) select the eraser. Why not make cmd+w open a new window? You're not solving a problem, you're just making things confusing and breaking the flow that every advanced user has built over years of working. Please change things back and stop trying to "fix" things that aren't broken.

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228 Points

2 years ago

Adobe,
Please read what you're users are saying about your Transform Tool changes:
https://forums.adobe.com/message/10682827

These changes have made the user experience much worse. There have been several updates to Photoshop, but no address of how to make the changes optional in Preferences. How long will it take you to respond to the issues you've caused many of your users?

We appreciate the new features, but PLEASE do not mess with your core functionality. People use this software for their living!

631 Messages

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9.6K Points

One polite observation to start and finish this discussion. I hope someone prominent will read it ;)

540 Messages

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12.3K Points

One can only wish!

380 Messages

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7.2K Points

2 years ago

Reposting this to this thread from above:


To revert to the legacy transform behavior, do the following:

1.    Use Notepad (Windows) or a text editor on Mac OS to create a plain text file (.txt).

2.    Type the text below in the text file:

TransformProportionalScale 0


3.    Save the file as "PSUserConfig.txt" to your Photoshop settings folder:

·         Windows: [Installation Drive]:\Users\[User Name]\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CC 2019\Adobe Photoshop CC 2019 Settings\

·         macOS: //Users/[User Name]/Library/Preferences/Adobe Photoshop CC 2019 Settings/

This was posted by an MVP, but I can’t find the original post.

It works!

// Warren Heaton, ACP/UGM/AEL

10 Messages

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464 Points

I don't disagree that this gets the functionality back.  But we shouldn't need a hack to fix this.  And how long will this "fix" work?  Will we have to wait for an MVP to publish another workaround with the next release?  Or the one after that?

10 Messages

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294 Points

This is from the actual Photoshop what's new site: https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/whats-new.html. But your point stands: we should be able to opt out of any new interface or functionality enhancements that have no reason for being there except some coder woke up on the wrong side of bed one morning.

540 Messages

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12.3K Points

We shouldn't have to do this. This is Adobe's responsibility. We don't get paid the big bucks to code Adobe software.

Come on Adobe engineers, listen to us, your long term loyal users.  . . . Then again why would you Adobe, when you probably get thousands of 'new' customers a week, who wouldn't know about the dramas we 'old school' had to put up with your buggy software.

Old school is probably what Adobe built their fortunes on. Please respect the old school Adobe. You have a lot to learn from us. 

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2K Points

Lisa, I do hope that Adobe respect you enough to reply.
That would be refreshing!

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62 Points

You are godsent!

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754 Points

2 years ago

The most annoying thing is that it isn't consistent. On shape layers it does still work the old way. At least make everything the same. Now transforming a shape needs shift, transforming an image doesn't. Different key commands, for essentially the same action? That's just really confusing.

4 Messages

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396 Points

2 years ago

As I was just watching a photographer's video who was raving about this change I was struck with this additional observation: It's call the Free Transform tool NOT the scale tool. So the original behavior made more sense because it was Free Transforming. If it was called the Scale Transform or simply the scale tool, then, well, I might expect it to act proportionally. So in essence the engineers and managers at Adobe in their infinite poor wisdom on this decision, have screwed up the very definition of what the tool is all about. Scaling proportionally has it's place but in my world non-proportional scaling is more my need as I'm doing photo illustration and compositing in an architectural environment. And as anyone knows walls are not built plumb and square and very, very rarely do we have a straight on view that would allow proportional scaling. And once again this should be a user-settable preference on how the tool works and not through some text file preferences setting "hack".

631 Messages

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9.6K Points

Very well said. Click Me-Too as most of us did ;)

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1.1K Points

FREE TRANSFORM.
THAT was my grievance in the first place, and I wasn't happy that Adobe talked me into letting them "upgrade" to 2019 as a "bug fix". 

Cost me a deadline and a client!

And several hours scrubbing that 2019 turd off my Mac and tweaking preferences so I could open the damn files in 2018.

NOW, I'm reluctant to try the new version of Illustrator because I don't know what they might have screwed-up.

204 Messages

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4.1K Points

@ Scott Souchock
Pls dont give them any bright ideas they may just change the name to "Scale Transform" and keep this backward idiocy they call a "New and Enhanced Feature"

We want this nonsensical change gone forever never to come back period.

The people who make a living with this software wont be using the mobile version so it doesnt make sense to burden us with this childish nonsense.

24 Messages

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1.1K Points

"Pls dont give them any bright ideas they may just change the name to 'Scale Transform' and keep this backward idiocy they call a 'New and Enhanced Feature'"

Well, if they do that, we should immediately request they add a Free Transform feature like they had in previous versions.

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152 Points

Tried photoshop 2019 - scaling behaviour broken - deleted & rolled back to 2018. It wasn't broken, Adobe - why did you break it? People who know this tool to the point of not having to think about it now have to think about it, thus impinging on their productivity - did you consider that?

540 Messages

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12.3K Points

It's a stupid unfair move. Adobe updated 20.0.1 and in that update they didn't even bother to look at the transform tool.

I'm beginning to think that Adobe is going to ignore the complaints in this forum about the scaling behaviour.

I'm hoping that more of our friends add their woes about the transform tool here and vote by clicking 'ME TOO' on top of this page. Hopefully Adobe will get the message that we want to go back to the existing behaviour of the transform tool that was in Photoshop V19.

Spread the word so that Adobe gets the message.

I refuse to use the buggy Photoshop V20. I wasted so much valuable time and expense trialling the new version and it's not worth it to me to keep using V20

204 Messages

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4.1K Points

Maybe we should all go on every forum we can find and every youtube channel that teaches photoshop and lightroom and spread the word of the horrible program it has become. More and more I am using ACDSee as an alternative to both photoshop and lightroom. I still have CS6 running like a boss here and CS5 32 bit for some plugins I need.

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174 Points

2 years ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled TRANSFORM stupid changes for no reason after 20 years.

No sense what so ever on the new transform, just plain retarded after 20 years do they ever ask users what they think, just read the post WTF

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138 Points

2 years ago

And the constrain "feature" is not consistent with all tools. I notice when I paste a new object as pixels, I actually must use the Shift key to constrain the transformation before clicking Enter to complete the execution. But if I try to size an existing object, Shift key does NOT constrain the transformation. 

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116 Points

2 years ago

If you wanted to introduce this type of behaviour it should be natively configurable (without any .txt file workarounds).

My thoughts are, you have a toolbar with all the dimensions and scale options, can't the link symbol button for proportional scaling be the link to controlling this behaviour. When pressed the default is to scale proportionally, if it is unchecked, an object is unconstrained when adjusted. 

In both scenarios, the shift key acts as the modifier to switch the behaviour, so when the constrain proportions button is enabled, the shift key overrides the behaviour to one of unconstrained and vice versa. At the same time you could look into enabling the linkage of the 'Toggle reference point' button in the same toolbar, which appears to not currently be referenced when scaling.

If that doesn't appeal, then just give us the option in the preferences to override this behaviour, and as other suggest, make it consistent so once this is also applied to shape creation etc. the setting overrides this globally.

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92 Points

2 years ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Transform tool is ruined.

Have been a photoshop user since Ver 3.5 - am very frustrated with the most recent update - and not sure where to send a complaint or request - the transform tool was changed - while some features of it are good and will take time to get used to - you can no longer grab corners and move them where you want - they snap to some grid but I cannot seem to find a way around this - VERY frustrating - and why is this not still do-able??? I am a professional real estate photographer and used this tool OFTEN - now I cannot - I've wasted hours trying to work around this - not at ALL pleased and hope that adobe reinstates the ability to drag from the corners - and no - it does not work by holding shift or command - it snaps every which way but the way you need it to - How do I get this to work the way it did before this update of 2019??  I NEED this ability - this is maddening

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35K Points

2 years ago

<you can no longer grab corners and move them where you want - they snap to some grid but I cannot seem to find a way around this>

Have you looked in the View menu to see if Snap and Snap To are on? They are by default, so could have been turned back on when you updated. I'm not seeing any snapping when I transform, but it does return whenever your preferences get trashed.



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80 Points

2 years ago

This is really bad. And it doesn't make sense, since in illustrator it still is the old way. 

Scaling proportionally is ok, I can deal with that, but when you are wanting to use skew in complex ways but the controls are all different it gets really confusing super fast. Really breaks my workflow. Terrible. 

Please give us the option to use legacy like you did with the Undo key change.