claytonking

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Mon, Oct 15, 2018 6:10 PM

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Photoshop CC 2019: Transform/Resize is constrained by default - Want ability to go back to legacy behavior

When selecting a layer and dragging a corner handle with the shift (or alt-shift) key pressed, the resize proportion isn't constrained. This started with this most recent update.

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JeffreyTranberry

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2 years ago

kukurykus

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I'm gald to see resonable people can't stand that too and criticise this poor CC 2019 behaviour.

2 years ago

dennis_nisbet

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I've been using Photoshop professionally since Photoshop 2.
Most of the time, updates had value and few if any were just plain unnecessary.
Changing how a selected layer is constrained has no apparent value.
Did it bring value to something else in the program? Probably not!
Two weeks ago David Tristram, an Adobe employee, wrote the following:
"new feature, use Shift to *un* constrain. Constrain to fixed aspect is now on by default"
What he wrote could be easily interpreted as:
You guys are all stupid and I am the Photoshop God. Therefore, we made this change and you will have to get used to it!
Just imagine how nice it would have been if he had written a great explanation as to why this change was made!

2 years ago

joachim_barrum

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Yes, I agree with you Dennis. I would also like to know if the difference between scaling text layers, smart layers, shapes and regular layers were intentional. If so I would very much like to know the exact reason for this and what Adobe think it will help solving?!?

To me, I still sit with a question mark above my head of exactly what Photoshop CC 2019 brought to the table that has made it a better than it was. Multiple Undos - all ready there (just forced changed the shortcut on us). Uniform scale was all ready there (just forced changed the shortcut). Color wheel is nice but too little and too late - we all ready got way better plugins for that. and any optimizations made to the program, I really cannot notice, in fact for me everything is just slightly more laggy (layers in particular). If the adobe team need ideas on where to continue the development they should announce that...or was this just a good way to save a few bucks this year?

2 years ago

kukurykus

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They say it's to make it uniform to iPad (or something I never had anything to do with) were are no shift keys, or they are something unusual. So becuase everything must be the same in scope of their produtcs they choose probably to make workstation versions work same as those shortly many people will use mostly, new young comers that are future target for Adobe. We can't do anything (however I don't like it) that the generation of old users remembering first releases or those at least from 6 - 7 years shortly is going to die and not be profitable for this company. It's even easier to play with kids for them by those new unfinished updates than with 'real' users as younger ones are going to adapt that somehow faster using their flexible brains and not complain as we do.

They act like Europe Union that introduces plenty of unthought and unresonable stupid changes to old as world good working natural regulations. Of course they know what they do. So no matter they have no logic answer for that - as far as they can say people what to do they are going to use it to 'enslave' them, rule the world and have more money, managing those they not belong to them.

2 years ago

kukurykus

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(...)what Photoshop CC 2019 brought to the table that has made it a better than it was.

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2 years ago

How do I turn off the new proportional scaling by default behavior while transforming layers?

To revert to the legacy transform behavior, do the following:

Use Notepad (Windows) or a text editor on Mac OS to create a plain text file (.txt).
Type the text below in the text file:

TransformProportionalScale 0
Save the file as "PSUserConfig.txt" to your Photoshop settings folder:
- Windows: [Installation Drive]:\Users\[User Name]\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CC 2019\Adobe Photoshop CC 2019 Settings\
- macOS: //Users/[User Name]/Library/Preferences/Adobe Photoshop CC 2019 Settings/

chris_ogden_3953179

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THANK YOU for your post to disable the idiotic change sans legacy pref.

On Macintosh High Sierra 10.13.6, I did exactly as you detailed (copy/pasting the command, so it's case sensitive; checking for invisibles, none except the single space; etc.)

~/Library/Preferences/Adobe Photoshop CC 2019 Settings/PSUserConfig.txt
=> TransformProportionalScale 0

Quit/restart PS and no change.

Any further wisdom to fix this maddening new behavior?

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I couldn't find this folder/path:

macOS: //Users/[User Name]/Library/Preferences/Adobe Photoshop CC 2019 Settings/

What am I doing wrong?

2 years ago

tim_neeley

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I couldn't find this folder/path:

macOS: //Users/[User Name]/Library/Preferences/Adobe Photoshop CC 2019 Settings/

What am I doing wrong?

2 years ago

cristen_gillespie_7908527

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You have made absolutely certain you're in the user Library, and not the Macintosh HD Library? Oh, I forgot. Apple tries to hide this from us. I've unhidden it. You can use Go> Library and it will take you directly to the user Library.

2 years ago

tim_neeley

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I was in the user folder but sure enough, Library was hidden. First time I did try "Go to folder> Library" and it didn't take me directly to user Library...only after I unhide the folder.

Thanks! you saved me!

2 years ago

cristen_gillespie_7908527

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I'm glad you were able to work it out.

Since Adobe never announces its modifying a feature, we won't know if they'll do something to make this more user friendly or not— until they do it or don't. '-}

I was using Procreate on my iPad with layers of images today—I've only recently begun to use it—and when you click on the Arrow that brings up the Transform and Move/Flip, etc., controls, by default Procreate sets the controls to free transform. It wasn't exactly sticky, either, so here I've trained myself that mobile apps use constrained transform by default, PS uses constrained transform by default, and now I was constantly resizing an image only to have it distort—same problem I'm having in Illustrator.<sigh> In Procreate I had to keep remembering to look at the controls, rather than simply start transforming on the document.

This is truly a mess across all the apps and desktop programs. Anyway, Procreate has been around a donkey's age, too, on mobile devices, so defaults are obviously anything the app designers want them to be. If there's some standards consortium that they're all moving towards, I haven't seen the results yet with the apps I have.

2 years ago

mark_payne_6851786

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The MacOS hiding thing needs to be a preference if it isn't already. I don't need my own computer hiding files from me. LOL

2 years ago

warren_heaton

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2 years ago

Particularly unnecessary since SHIFT is stilled used to constraint other things like brushes to a straight line and cropping. Retrain to not use SHIFT for only one tool (?)

Champion

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2 years ago

Anyone who wants this change needs to "Me Too" at the top of the page... that's how the requests get prioritized. I am not sure if merged pages add their "Me Too"s...

JeffreyTranberry

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2 years ago

I think we can all agree that there should be a preference toggle and the "Maintain aspect ratio" constrain link on the toolbar should function properly. Additionally, a popup blocker to notify users of these changes to default behavior and a checkbox in that dialog to set the preference is a MUST HAVE for future changes like this (and the "auto-select" feature of the move tool).

That said, the decision to flip the default behavior is not a bug. It's an inconvenience to retrain habits, but I know that I and a lot of others transform with constraints on far more (like, 90% of the time for me) than not, so for us, this is a workflow improvement. I will be not have to be constantly holding shift with my pinkey finger! Thanks Adobe!

Let's ask for a preference setting, fix the aspect-ratio button in the tool bar, and cut down on the "I can't believe..."s and "How could they..."s.

Will there be some initial frustration when we hold shift and the transform box goes all wobbly? Sure. What's the solution? Let go of the shift key. There are more disruptive and destructive bugs and changes that we can focus on.

kukurykus

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The only I'd like to have is the option to decide behaviour of that, so that was like now or before.

2 years ago

paul_peddrick

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Sorry -- I disagree. By those standards there is no such thing as designing a product for your existing users. No existing user is helped by changing an easy, learned and automatic behavior. It's like re-arranging the keys on a piano. Middle C is one key to the right now! So much more convenient! Thank you piano tuner for forcing me to re-learn my craft! If you want to default the constraint on, that's fine. Just don't use the traditional "constrain" key to unconstrain!

2 years ago

kukurykus

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Do you reply for Max Johnson or mine comment? If mine the best for me would be like that was so far, till CC 2019 release, but I know half of users want it like it's now, so best is if these 2 kind of user groups could choose how they want 'shift' worked during their own session. I think that is possible by adding checkbox to preferences (even if that needed to restart Photoshop), don't you think so?

2 years ago