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3.2K Points

Mon, Oct 15, 2018 6:10 PM

Photoshop CC 2019: Transform/Resize is constrained by default - Want ability to go back to legacy behavior

When selecting a layer and dragging a corner handle with the shift (or alt-shift) key pressed, the resize proportion isn't constrained. This started with this most recent update.

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14.6K Messages

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282.6K Points

a year ago

With the 20.0.5 update, there is now a user facing preference under Preferences > General... and check "Use Legacy Free Transform"


Use this preference instead of the PSUserConfig.txt method.

121 Messages

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2.3K Points

Do we need to remove the old PSUserConfig.txt entry after this release is installed? Or perhaps will it be used to define this checkbox initially and then redundant?

121 Messages

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2.3K Points

Holi cow.
Just installed update.
My Photoshop now ignores my PSUserConfig.txt entry AND the "Use Legacy Free Transform" box is unticked.
This update has reverted my SHIFT-to-Constrain settings AGAIN!
#facepalm

16 Messages

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822 Points

Jeffrey, the team at Adobe really need to do a better job notifying customers of changes like this.

We expect better than to have to exit the software we pay to use, to search online for answers.

We should not need to look into patch notes or forum posts to find out why one of the single most-used tools in all of Photoshop has changed behaviour after 15+ years.

Adobe's rinky-dink approach to customer experience is tiresome.

111 Messages

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2.9K Points

Jeffrey, this is not good enough. It's been many months since the free transform fiasco began, and you still haven't addressed one of the most glaring (and oft-complained about) problems: inconsistent transform behaviour between layer types. If you're going to ill-advisedly fool around with the default free transform behaviour then so be it, but for God's sake, finish the job!

With "Use Legacy Free Transform" unchecked, shift constrains vector layers, while it unconstrains raster, smart object, and text layers. Not to mention that Photoshop's default behaviour is now largely contrary to the behaviour in Illustrator, After Effects etc. This is poor interface design no matter how you slice it.

It adds insult to injury to refer to the previous (sensible, consistent) behaviour as "legacy" when the new feature remains unfinished, inconsistent and illogical. At the very least, the new behaviour should be called "beta" or "experimental" (and turned off by default) until you finally finish implementing it. 

I'm sure it's very tempting to write off the deluge of criticism you've received over this issue as just being the white noise of the angry internet masses. But honestly, Adobe dropped the ball on this one, and made some objectively and glaringly obvious poor decisions, the solutions to which are likewise glaringly obvious. 

Spending 8 months to add a legacy checkbox smacks of 'throw the complainers a bone to shut them up'. It signals that whoever's in charge of things over there hasn't actually listened to the customers, or genuinely comprehended what Adobe's mistakes were.

184 Messages

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3.9K Points

2 years ago

new feature, use Shift to *un* constrain.  Constrain to fixed aspect is now on by default.  

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90 Points

Very handy to know before updating.

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822 Points

Do you think users should be informed of such a major change in one of the most used features of Photoshop?
This wastes time in retraining muscle memory for millions of users, and by the looks of things, you've failed to provide an easy way to turn this off.
It is baffling when these kinds of decisions are made.

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280 Points

It's also inconsistent! I worked out quickly that constrained was the new default - sure, I'm ok with that as it is an attempt to standardize across apps - but then I go to resize something else and it requires the old key combo?!! Is there a bug where old documents or elements from old documents retain the old restraining defaults?! It's the only explanation I could come up with...

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3.2K Points

It’s also misleading. I spent 30 minutes trying to figure out what was wrong with my computer, mouse, Wacom, etc. this change really blows. Also makes me appreciate Affinity Photo more and more.

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2.7K Points

Why? You could've just taken a quick glance at the "What's new" page.

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/whats-new.html

231 Messages

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3.8K Points

2 years ago

How do I turn off the new proportional scaling by default behavior while transforming layers?

To revert to the legacy transform behavior, do the following:

  1. Use Notepad (Windows) or a text editor on Mac OS to create a plain text file (.txt).
  2. Type the text below in the text file:

    TransformProportionalScale 0

  3. Save the file as "PSUserConfig.txt" to your Photoshop settings folder:
    • Windows: [Installation Drive]:\Users\[User Name]\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CC 2019\Adobe Photoshop CC 2019 Settings\
    • macOS: //Users/[User Name]/Library/Preferences/Adobe Photoshop CC 2019 Settings/





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822 Points

Thank you dearly, John.

61 Messages

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3.2K Points

Thank you. This is an absurd change.

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220 Points

Thank you!!
(did you notice multiple undo is now just command + Z and no longer command + option + Z? I prefer the classic command + Z to quickly undo and redo the last change...oh well.)

631 Messages

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9.6K Points

So like me, but you may at least change your shortcuts to have it back.

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252 Points

THANK YOU.   It's been 24 hours of torture.   HOW does a major universal industry application like Photoshop arbitrarily reverse a SHIFT key functionality like that.   Holy smokes.   It was COMPLETELY changing my workflow last night.   15 years ... then overnight... mandatory functionality switch???

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634 Points

2 years ago

Particularly unnecessary since SHIFT is stilled used to constraint other things like brushes to a straight line and cropping. Retrain to not use SHIFT for only one tool (?) 

23 Messages

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616 Points

To be candid, this solution is not acceptable. We pay a lot of money every year to use this software. We shouldn't have to go writing & moving config files around our system folders. At the least, this should be a checkbox option somewhere in preferences or in the UI.

131 Messages

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3.4K Points

2 years ago

Traditionally, shift is used to constrain in several non-Adobe programs. I would think most software users have adopted that is a defacto command.

I hope this becomes a user preference

36 Messages

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968 Points

2 years ago

Adobe just HAD to be different, so they made it that you had to hold in Shift to constrain. Just about all other apps auto constrained and scaled based on the selection handle you scaled with. So all people started adopting Adobe's change... Now they introduce it as a "New Feature" instead of saying - sorry we messed up all these years.

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592 Points

2 years ago

This is by far one of the most stupid and unnecessary changes!
They broke the most basic rule: Never fix what is not broken. 

36 Messages

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968 Points

Well they broke that rule a very long time ago and people adopted it as the norm. Now they are trying to fix what they fixed when it wasn't broken

631 Messages

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9.6K Points

I don't remember it worked previously differently than till now. When it worked like now then?

68 Messages

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2.2K Points

Don't forget the Crop Tool change in PS CS6.... that was a masterful screw-up if ever!

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1.1K Points

Nolan - Yeah, they screwed that up too, but at least they put a Use Legacy checkbox there that worked. Check that box and you're good to go. 

131 Messages

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3.4K Points

2 years ago

One thing I am starting to be more aware of it when you click too far out of the transform bounding box, it stamps the change. It was only today that I realize I hate this after wanting to select all to rotate the entire image slightly.

Even if it's a tiny effort to have the cursor closer, these little things add up and are just annoying.

123 Messages

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2.5K Points

this is my biggest problem with 2019

631 Messages

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9.6K Points

They should let us choose the way we want to confirm changes!

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12.2K Points

I also became aware of the same thing. . . even using the distortion has caused me grief. . I've wasted too much time and brain energy on CC 2019. I've gone back to 2018

631 Messages

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9.6K Points

Instead of fixing bugs I hated in CC 2018 (they moved them to CC 2019) now they introduce new ones that what's 'funny' are intended (problematic) behaviours :/

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1.1K Points

Mark - Fully agree. There are many times where you WANT to move your cursor farther away from the corner to make very minute changes, and now if you go too far, bam, you've committed the transform. So far I have yet to see, although I may have missed it, any kind of mea culpa from Adobe saying that they indeed, did eff it up and will have a fix shortly. In the meantime, the text file works fine but does not increase the safe zone around the frame during a (not so) Free Transform.

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512 Points

2 years ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Please add a toggle button to allow for legacy scale options..

It used to be that to maintain proportional scaling, a user would hold the shift key while scaling. In Photoshop CC 2019 the proportional scaling is done without pushing anything, but now when you hold the Shift key it UNLOCKS proportional scaling.

To just change the scale tool to be backwards relative to how it has very literally always been without an easy way to change it back or any documentation the first time you use Photoshop CC 2019 is ridiculous. It shows that the people making the software don't actually use the software.

The fix is easy: Instead of making some one line script file, have an in-app toggle switch to allow for legacy scaling proportional.

I've been using Photoshop for 25 years, and this is absolutely 100% perplexing.

631 Messages

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9.6K Points

I agree, that change was not needed for anything :(

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222 Points

The fact that so many users have had to trawl through forums to find out how to use a tool thats worked perfectly well in one way for years, is ridiculous. 

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35K Points

You're supposed to just "know" that you should click on the What's New below the app name to get to a page that tells you what's new.

But I do see a couple of significant usability issues. For one thing, the What's New is hardly prominent. It could be so it acted more like a warning than marketing, just in case you were interested.

For another, when I look at the page, the whole new Transform and Auto-commit is under the heading "Usability Improvements." Way to be so boring and technical on that page, no one reads it. The headers, imo,  should be the feature names to direct our attention, not "Usability," or "Top Customer Requests." They could even use heads and subheads so they could put Usability Improvements underneath Transform and Auto-Commit. Subheads were invented a while ago, I believe.

But it's not as if they don't tell us—they just do it very quietly. '-}

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3.4K Points

It's not that you cannot easily find the "feature" under what's new. It's just a bad feature. I did not hard to find out in 3 minutes that they reversed the constrain.

Further, Adobe's Whats New Page did not offer a fix there, someone here supplied it.

Most people find these features while working. Whats New Page would just make you frustrated in advance before finding them.

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35K Points

Finding a "fix," since there wasn't officially a hack to "fix" transform, isn't the same issue as " users have had to trawl through forums to find out how to use a tool thats worked perfectly well in one way for years. . . " You didn't have to trawl to find out how  it worked, only notice that there was a central location for finding out what was new before you went any further. You may think that reading the What's New page just makes you frustrated in advance. I prefer to know in advance what to look out for and test —before I make up my mind that it's a good idea or a terrible idea.

And I do think that better headers, like having a good index (which we don't have for the online guide), helps people quickly find what interests them. Getting their attention is half the battle in good design.

But yes, to fix Transform—since they didn't intend for us to choose to go back or they'd have given us a legacy setting—you do have to search hard, and in fact, had to wait for someone to supply it. Not that I think it's a genuine "fix" if you have to hack code to do it.  <g>

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623 Messages

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14.6K Points

2 years ago

Anyone who wants this change needs to "Me Too" at the top of the page... that's how the requests get prioritized. I am not sure if merged pages add their "Me Too"s...

14.6K Messages

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282.6K Points

Yep. Merging does add up the Votes from the merged topic (but won't double votes if the same person votes on both the parent and merged doc - of that makes sense)

631 Messages

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9.6K Points

Good to know votes are merged, I always thought we lose them.

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968 Points

From a practical point this change makes sense... I teach new students and holding shift while constraining is just not natural because every app they use outside of Photoshop doesn't require holding shift.

BUT... The way Adobe implimented this shows their attitude and that they really couldn't care about existing users. They already have our money. They are only interested in getting new clients.

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9.6K Points

Mostly I see people say other applications also use 'shift' as modifier that let keep proportions, and that I noticed it's true. Can you say names of those other application that is different? Normally it's like in was till now, but even if different then for sure not that all other applications had that way to do it, not even half of them.

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968 Points

"Simple apps" like Powerpoint, Word etc don't use shift - just drag a corner and it keeps proportions. CorelDRAW / PhotoPaint also keeps proportions when using the corner handles. (Well used to when I used it before Adobe)

531 Messages

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12.2K Points

2 years ago

Bug. Maintain aspect ratio constrain link on the toolbar does not work in cc 2019.
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Need to look at this bug also with the constrain link -

When you un-check the Maintain aspect ratio constrain link on the toolbar and then use transform it still maintains aspect ratio. . . un-checking the link should disable maintain aspect ratio shouldn't it? Well it doesn't.

Also shift key + transform disables Maintain aspect ratio but doesn't correspond with the constrain link on the tool bar. 

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104 Points

Me Too. I had to waste a lot of time digging through web searches to find this out. What's the point of the constraint link on the toolbar?

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623 Messages

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14.6K Points

2 years ago

I think we can all agree that there should be a preference toggle and the "Maintain aspect ratio" constrain link on the toolbar should function properly. Additionally, a popup blocker to notify users of these changes to default behavior and a checkbox in that dialog to set the preference is a MUST HAVE for future changes like this (and the "auto-select" feature of the move tool).

That said, the decision to flip the default behavior is not a bug. It's an inconvenience to retrain habits, but I know that I and a lot of others transform with constraints on far more (like, 90% of the time for me) than not, so for us, this is a workflow improvement. I will be not have to be constantly holding shift with my pinkey finger! Thanks Adobe!

Let's ask for a preference setting, fix the aspect-ratio button in the tool bar, and cut down on the "I can't believe..."s and "How could they..."s.

Will there be some initial frustration when we hold shift and the transform box goes all wobbly? Sure. What's the solution? Let go of the shift key. There are more disruptive and destructive bugs and changes that we can focus on.


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9.6K Points

The only I'd like to have is the option to decide behaviour of that, so that was like now or before.

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284 Points

Sorry -- I disagree. By those standards there is no such thing as designing a product for your existing users. No existing user is helped by changing an easy, learned and automatic behavior. It's like re-arranging the keys on a piano. Middle C is one key to the right now! So much more convenient! Thank you piano tuner for forcing me to re-learn my craft! If you want to default the constraint on, that's fine. Just don't use the traditional "constrain" key to unconstrain! 

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Do you reply for Max Johnson or mine comment? If mine the best for me would be like that was so far, till CC 2019 release, but I know half of users want it like it's now, so best is if these 2 kind of user groups could choose how they want 'shift' worked during their own session. I think that is possible by adding checkbox to preferences (even if that needed to restart Photoshop), don't you think so?

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114 Points

I can appreciate your perspective on this. And I can almost buy that if they change it in all the Adobe Suite at once, maybe we could get used to it. Kinda. But as someone else mentioned, it's a slippery slope now. So what if you draw a rectangle. Or a circe or a line. Do you also no longer hold shift? When you draw a rectangle in a layout program, you probably don't want it to be a perfect square. So now you have the opposite issue, you are holding shift to draw every diagonal line and rectangle. I dunno, this is such a legacy functionality, I would be curious to understand the research behind it and see why they thought this was a better option.

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2.8K Points

There was no “research” behind this. This was done to appease 12 year olds and weekend users.

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12.2K Points

2 years ago

Max  there is a bug in the Maintain aspect ratio constrain link on the toolbar. It doesn't work. That needs to be addressed.

When you un-check the Maintain aspect ratio constrain link on the toolbar and then use transform it still maintains aspect ratio. . . un-checking the link should disable maintain aspect ratio shouldn't it? Well it doesn't.

Also shift key + transform disables Maintain aspect ratio but doesn't correspond with the constrain link on the tool bar. 


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623 Messages

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14.6K Points

I agree and I did mention that twice in my reply, though in-line with the other requests.
"...and the Maintain aspect ratio constrain link on the toolbar should function properly. " and "...fix the aspect-ratio button in the tool bar..."

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104 Points

Me too. Thanks Rosa. That's an even bigger bug!

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508 Points

2 years ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled photoshop cc 2019 - transform cannot be switched off/on right.

Bug using the transform tool using CTRL+t.
Bug 1: The default is always ON for the maintain proportions option. Clicking the "locl proportions" button doesnt seem to work . The default used to be OFF.
Bug 2: SHIFT now does the opposite - it unlocks proportions while transforming. 

This happens after selecting part of a layer where some pixels are drawn ( it doesnt matter how you select them), when you enter transform mode using CNTRL+t.

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818 Points

2 years ago

I first looked at the calender, this last update totally felt like the best April fools software prank ever intended. But no! It's a feature. Just forget your more than 10 years of experience! Throw aboard the fast way of working you are used to! Hey, you beloved power users out there, just shut up and make room for another classic "Adobe duh' move" where they pretend to know their people and try to sell us the most unintentional shiat possible - so everybody is raging about that, rather than the old and poor single core architecture of their software.

Adobe, you have all the eyes and ears in the world, why do you not just ask your community beforehand??? I can't understand software behemoths like this one... all they have to do is listen! What is this board good for anyways?!

Btw, there is a "back-to-legacy"-setting for every little thing BUT that one! WHY?

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9.6K Points

I read enough many theards from last 15 years on different forums about Adobe. Conclusion is they won't listen us about some stuff they want us to enforce to get used to. And that will happen for sure as they know majority of us has no choise and will use Photoshop the way that's beeing redesigned for making more money purpose.

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176 Points

I think, they want us crying here together in a closed room so nobody takes a notice.

There are now many reviews out on many sites about the new CC2019 features. If you comment there in the open blogs, this reach many more people so there can read about, check it, an discuss about it.

Maybe Adobe would react slightly quicker than.