luciano_ceretti_venerucci

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344 Points

Fri, Oct 26, 2018 9:49 AM

Photoshop CC 2019: Free Transform/Distort tool inconsistency

Hello,

using the tool Free Transform (Ctrl+T) in the new version of Photoshop CC 2019 (release 20.0.0) on a Windows 10 64 bit PC, I'm not able anymore to move the handle of a selected area (using the Ctrl button) in a free mode, now I can move it along the vertical or horizontal ax only.

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Which setting I have to change in order to have the same behavior of the tool as in Photoshop CC 2018 (release 19)?

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Many thanks!!!

Luciano

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jaroslav_bereza

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15.3K Points

2 years ago

This is the side effect of "shift" key behavior change. Now you have to hold "shift" key. I consider this as undesired side effect or was it intended behavior?

luciano_ceretti_venerucci

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344 Points

Many thanks for your help Jaroslav!!!

2 years ago

john_eudicone

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492 Points

2 years ago

the free transform tool no longer allows you to transform freely! it constrains proportions by default, forcing you to depress the shift key. Adobe has once again made their product more cumbersome to use!

luciano_ceretti_venerucci

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344 Points

Many thanks for your help John!!!

2 years ago

vicki_161725

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118 Points

I got so sick of things being so different, such as free transform, I have been using 2018

a year ago

hein_fy68yzjlo915u

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122 Points

2 years ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled transform works worse than before..

Since the new 2019 upgrade "distort" in the transform doesn't work well. I cannot anymore pull the sides out with the middle square of each line. I mean I used to be able to pull the image into a different aspect ratio with the square buttons in the middle of each side. now that doesn't work anymore and I can't seem to find a useful alternative..

luciano_ceretti_venerucci

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344 Points

As Jaroslav Bereza and John Eudicone suggested to me, now you have to press crtl+shift buttons (on windows) in order to transform a selection freely.

2 years ago

beno_t_hautier

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62 Points

it doesn't works

a year ago

dennis_nisbet

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2 years ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled I have abandoned the latest update!.

There is something seriously wrong with Distort in the latest version and I do not have the time to find a workaround. What a shame and it was working so well!
Looking at all the reported problems, makes you wonder if Adobe bothered to check anything on this latest update.

luciano_ceretti_venerucci

6 Messages

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344 Points

As Jaroslav Bereza and John Eudicone suggested to me, now you have to press crtl+shift buttons (on windows) in order to transform a selection freely.

2 years ago

vicki_161725

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118 Points

Why make it worse. I would like to go back to PScc2018

2 years ago

ron_lachance

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152 Points

2 years ago

I wish when installing a new release they would leave the last release in the programs folder so you have the option to go back to the version that worked properly. Another issue I found is when I did a resize and canvas extend it moved elements out of place. I lost hours of work and had to make apologies to clients on tight deadlines. Not cool.

luciano_ceretti_venerucci

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344 Points

If you have the Creative Cloud you can install previous releases of Photoshop:

-select the program, "Manage", "Others versions" then choose the version you like

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2 years ago

alison_gouws

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158 Points

Thank you!!!!!!!

2 years ago

nolan_conley

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2.2K Points

2 years ago

Dear Adobe... I figured out how to fix your transform tool problem... I UNINSTALLED Photoshop CC 2019! I'm now using PS 2018 and all works fine! Please pass this on to the idiots who made this change.

mark_payne_6851786

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You may have to go back a few pages... there is an easy fix for this, and it works fine after that.

2 years ago

nolan_conley

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Hi Mark... thanks for your suggestion. It's just that I pay over $50 per month and really shouldn't have to fix the the new releases. It's like these "improvements" are made by kids who don't sit at a desk 5 days a week having to use the program to get work out. Anyway, thanks again!

2 years ago

kukurykus

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Basically there's nothing so fantastic about CC 2019 that wasn't part of CC 2018 you had to miss it. So be happy - there is over a year till next release ;) Maybe then they'll workout something better ;)

2 years ago

kukurykus

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That's true! Changes made to new Photoshop are not meant for experienced users, but for fun use!

2 years ago

rye_fanoni

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660 Points

I've also gone back to PS2018. I don't think this behaviour from Adobe should be accepted. It's just very poor decisdion making

2 years ago

leith_gow

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120 Points

15 years of muscle memory gone... Ive just started using 2019 and it seems a lot of things have been switched and swapped by default. I couldn't find the pivot in the free transform (its turned off by default...) Constraints on free transform now work in reverse. not sure i dig it.

2 years ago

shaun_moreland

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80 Points

Been using PS since 1998. Generally most updates are improvements and nice to have's. This messing with the transform tool makes me not open photoshop 2019. Going to uninstall and use 2018 till they get it right.

2 years ago

nolan_conley

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I'm like you... have been using PS since V3. I've uninstalled PS2019 and just keep using PS2018 until someone at Adobe grows some common sense and this nightmare is fixed.

2 years ago

nolan_conley

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Update... I have fixed the problem with an Adobe Chat tech. Here is the conversation and the fix. Do this exactly and PS2019 will transform like PS2018 did. I know it's a pain but it gets the job done.

Shall I guide you with the steps so that you can perform them on your computer?
ok
Anusha
Please close the Photoshop application.
done

To revert to the legacy transform behavior, do the following:

1. Use Notepad (Windows) to create a plain text file (.txt).
2. Type the text below in the text file:
TransformProportionalScale 0
3. Save the file as "PSUserConfig.txt" to your Photoshop settings folder:
Windows: [Installation Drive]:\Users\[User Name]\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CC 2019\Adobe Photoshop CC 2019 Settings\
Please open the Photoshop application and check.
inprocess

Okay, please let me know if you face any issue.
opening photoshop now

Okay, please check the application now.
That worked.

That is great. The features are still the same in Photoshop 2019 version. just requires some steps to be performed.
I really hate it when some engineer has a spasm and screws up the software we make our living on. There was nothing wrong with the Transform tool as it was. Please tell the higher ups at Adobe to quit trying to fix what isn't broken. Thank you for your help! Have a good evening.

2 years ago

krzysztof_nahlik

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Please Adobe: Add this option somewhere to Menu/Edit/Preferences in the next update. It's really annoying to make this text file and find the correct place after each installation of PS on another machine.

2 years ago

vicki_161725

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118 Points

I uninstalled 2019 and have been using 2018 since.

2 years ago

nolan_conley

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I just did that also.

Adobe, you are untrustworthy and your business model is awful. Your business model is irritate the customer until they leave. Well, I just left PS 2019 after the last update that NEGATED the fix for the transform tool screw-up . WHY FIX SOMETHING JUST TO UNFIX IT IN THE NEXT UPDATE!!! Nothing personal... but I'm sick of this and you, Adobe, are driving me to explore alternate solutions.

Regretfully, Nolan Conley

2 years ago

lonny_cloud

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2 years ago

That was my solution as well!

mathias

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2 years ago

Reversing what holding SHIFT does while transforming is a laughably terrible idea, but nobody is surprised that the Photoshop team green-lighted this change if they're aware of Photoshop's changelog over the past decade.

in addition:
The "reference point" is also hidden by default now. Even if you alt click, while transforming, to set a different point of rotation, you CANNOT see it even though you've moved it LOL. You don't know for sure if you've moved it or not until you continue to scale/rotate.
You have to click a new checkbox in prefs in order to make it visible again.

Laughing and crying in tandem.

kukurykus

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DEAR Adobe, please READ our comments!

2 years ago

jaroslav_bereza

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They do. Because some similar topics were merged into this one. Only Adobe can do that.

2 years ago

kukurykus

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That's right, but that was irony. By reading I meant hearing us. I used read as it's dear palindrome.

2 years ago

mathias

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Oh, hold the phone!

There's a transform reference point toggle button in the top toolbar, available while transforming:

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I tested it. It is in fact linked to the toggle in prefs:

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2 years ago

jaroslav_bereza

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2 years ago

My suggested behavior is the same as before.
1) Keep proportions would be on by default
2) Click on chain icon in the toolbar will change it and it will turn it on/off and this will be used as a default for all other transformations.
3) It shouldn't affect free transform

So new users will have user-friendly behavior and the addicted users could this turn off in 5 seconds and keep it that way forever.

kukurykus

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It should be done this way while releasing last Photoshop. I would accept it, but old behaviour with option for new would be even better to respect those who used Ps longer than new ones.

2 years ago

ron_lachance

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They will wait until we all get use to the change and then change it again. I know it can be changed but does changing command f to repeat a filter to a search window bug anyone else? Why do you need another search choice there.

2 years ago

kukurykus

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Command f? Where exaclty to use it?

2 years ago

mathias

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"addicted users"

oh boi . . .

Speaking of the "Maintain aspect ratio" button, it would help alleviate this issue if it didn't LIE to us now.

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Whether or not I've toggled it, and I'm dragging any of the 8 transform control points, PS just does whatever the $&$^%$ it wants.
It no longer honors that button for mouse input.
It DOES honor the "Maintain aspect ratio" button if entering values in the textboxes, however.

Considering this, it starts to feel more like a bug.

There IS a global toggle for making the transform reference point visible, during transform, in the toolbar (linked to the one in preferences), so sure - Why not one more for this?

2 years ago

jaroslav_bereza

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Actually you can make magic file with magic text and it will be same as in CC2018 https://forums.adobe.com/message/10687200#10687200

2 years ago

mathias

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Well aren't you just a snarky little boi, Jaro.

2 years ago

kukurykus

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https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/free-transform-maintain-aspect-ratio-broken-a...

https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/photoshop_numeric_free_transform_maintain_asp...

2 years ago

mathias

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Whoa whoa whoa, who is editing my replies?????? My response to Jaroslav had additional paragraphs. WTF is this?? Here is my REAL response to Jaroslav:
(saved via a browser plugin I have installed.)

/quote
Well aren't you just a snarky little boi, Jaro.

2 years ago

mathias

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2 years ago

kukurykus

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It's over my post - noone deleted it ;)

2 years ago

mathias

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I said editing, not deleting. My posts are being changed by a moderator..
https://i.imgur.com/d0gREUd.png

2 years ago

jaroslav_bereza

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Maybe this forum can't handle unicode color emoji?

2 years ago

mathias

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✌

2 years ago

mathias

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The plot thickens . . .

2 years ago

kukurykus

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Okey I thought that is a quote as you repeated it in other post ;) Probably that is not moderator, maybe if you pasted that to notepad, copied from that to here it could be displayed...

2 years ago

mathias

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Jaro may be correct. Using color emojis might cause a bug in this forum.
That, or Chris Cox is trying to make me go (more) insane.

2 years ago

kukurykus

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Chris Cox is not active from years? What did you say he didn't like last time?

2 years ago

mathias

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No wonder this place went to the dogs.

2 years ago

mathias

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"What did you say he didn't like last time?"

What do you mean, Kukurykus? Are you referring to something I said in another thread somewhere? If so - not quite sure.

2 years ago

kukurykus

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That, or Chris Cox is trying to make me go (more) insane.

I refered to that sentence. I have no idea what happened in past between you ;)

2 years ago

mathias

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2 years ago

ron_lachance

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Oh My God i regret joining endless crap in my emails now

2 years ago

mathias

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2 years ago

sheena_yates

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112 Points

2 years ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Moving corners of smart object seems to be snapping when using transform distort,....

For years I have been able to draw a rectangle, convert it to a smart object, then use Transform Distort and drag the corners smoothly to the precise place I need them. After updating to the 2019 Photoshop, I go through the same process of creating a smart object from a rectangle, but when I try to use Transform Distort and move the corners, they jump around like they are snapping to something and I can never get them even close to the place I need them—even though snapping is turned off.

However, the Transform Distort works smoothly as expected to the rectangle BEFORE I convert it to a smart object. But AFTER it is a smart object, it doesn't work correctly.

sheena_yates

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Solution: Holding shift down works with distorting smart objects as it did in the 2018 version. Thank you for the tip!

2 years ago

lonny_cloud

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2 years ago

I have the same bug (along with many others). I finally had to return to cc2018. The update is just not worth the headache and added time it takes to get a project completed

mark_gilvey_7539751

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2 years ago

The Place command seems to have similar issues. I'm still trying to get used to it.

joachim_barrum

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2 years ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Photoshop CC 2019: Transform inconsistencies are confusing.

The new uniform scale by default is nice, but its very hard to get used to when the program is full of inconsistency. Like transform bitmap is uniform, transform shape you need to hold ctrl+shift for it to scale the same way. Same goes for text, which is uniform, but smart objects are not....why?!? So currently it only makes things a lot more confusing than it being a change for the better.

earth_oliver

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The smart objects one is a bug caused by a corrupted prefs files. Everything but vectors are supposed to constrain, but either during the install or Ps being put in the background while transform is active, causes the corruption. You can fix temporarily by doing a pref reset, but it'll eventually happen again

2 years ago

drazen_skobe

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2 years ago

Maybe this would be a solution?

Cmd/Ctrl + T
Drag from any side to scale proportionally (that’s it)
No modifier keys required. Just re-size.
To Commit Changes: press checkmark, press return, or click anywhere outside of bounding box
The Big Change in Free Transform is that you no longer need to use the Shift Key. You just drag. Using the Shift key will distort the image now.

From: https://medium.com/@mikemurphyco/259-free-transform-photoshop-cc-2019-a309445af581

Hope it helped?

davide_bozzetti

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2 years ago

I too think is a terrible idea to have to hold shift to 'free transform' what's the point? is it a free transform tool or not?
15 years of PS use and having to change habits is confusing, lost productivity time would say

kukurykus

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I guess they had to do survey to predict how many of us will be loyal to their product after making some unfriendly changes. I suppose they won't lose many users while can by happy of deal they could do with Apple who might have give them enough money to develop Photoshop this way.

2 years ago

davide_bozzetti

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Problem is we have no options, honestly who would ever change using PS for his work?
it's just that Adobe before implementing changes to tools should take into account that takes years to know PS well and make full use of shortcuts and features.

So yes new features are welcome, improved performances of tools yes welcome too, but changes of behaviour of tools not as much...

2 years ago

kukurykus

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New users won't see any difference. They mainly focus on learning Photoshop that takes 1 - 2 years before realise something could be better. But when they're finaly familiar with Photoshop they will find to be upset like we are if Adobe will keep making another changes instead of imprevements! :(

2 years ago

joachim_barrum

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No new user can get comfy with this change as long as its different on all types of layers. That is the annoying change that makes this new "feature" (or whatever Adobe likes to call flipping keyboard shortcuts around) so frustrating.

2 years ago

davide_bozzetti

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True.

But still don't see the point of having to hold shift when using a 'free' resize tool, not so free really!!
Plus if you do more than one step and forget to hold shift again it mess up with the positioning you did, really annoying

bugs me off as much as the new "undo" thingy as I use them both a lot!

2 years ago

joachim_barrum

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I agree, well, at least you have the old way of scaling for Smart objects and Shapes ;)

I dont understand why they changed any of these. Before it was consistent. ANd multiple undos was there as well, I guess anyone who wanted could put it on ctrl+z in shortcut prefereneces before as well.... These are not features, just stupidity changes imo

2 years ago

davide_bozzetti

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Exactly, consistency is key for anyone working with PS, as if crazy tight deadlines and unrealistic expectations from clients were not enough, we also have to deal
with working out new shortcuts, behaviours and updates not so smooth often

2 years ago

kukurykus

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If that is true what I heard they want it to adjust to iPad and one weekend users, that are main target now. Regarding iPad version of Ps I have no idea how many of regular Photoshop is in its Photoshop, but they are limited to not having some workstation keys, so that is the reason we suffer now from changes favouring other devices users. Moreover, if their version of Ps got basic stuff to do rapid 'phone' corrections that explains why layers transformation was only one they changed, but not for vectors, paths, texts or smart objects and different objects inside one group.

2 years ago

davide_bozzetti

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Makes sense, but wouldn't be best too keep version for different platform separated? mobile more geared to occasional user and workstation for pro use? we spent hundreds or thousands $$ over the years after all

2 years ago

kukurykus

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What are tousends of dollars by million of them supplied by other involved corporation to sell their products? What about future where old computers we use now are dinosaurs by those kids sit by from early years and can do more though beeing limited? They want to survive they must be step forward before new times will come with no doubt.

I forgot to meantion transformation of shapes that joachim barrum pointed was kept by old way.

2 years ago

davide_bozzetti

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No negativity here, PS improved million times since 2005 when I started using it, and good if they take it to the masses on mobile platforms and make billion so it improves even more in the future, my point is about disruption to workflow of pro user that should be minimised or avoided

After all WE made PS so popular as it it is today, everyone on the planet knows photoshop because we pro photographer and retoucher were using it daily to work on magazines and
clients images

2 years ago

kukurykus

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Loll you're good - 8 posts / 8 likes :)

2 years ago

davide_bozzetti

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Lol way to go before your 543 Posts:) Kudos

2 years ago

kukurykus

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I'm even better - saw like you secretly changed avatar twice during few minutes! Edit: 3 times now!

2 years ago

davide_bozzetti

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Haha couldn't work it out as there was a lag! Another bug?
;)

2 years ago

Rosa

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I would hope that Adobe would understand that it's best to keep PS versions for Desktop and iPad suited to each device?

2 years ago

davide_bozzetti

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Sensible approach and I would certainly hope so too!

2 years ago

kukurykus

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Yes - they still would earn money keeping distinct versions (just other way configured user settings that costs nothing) but when we see there's no any logic in their doings there's most possibly some uprising theory comes true. What could made them to follow this way? When you read what people say we all can agree that's nonsense. Woud so huge company be so unresonable to not simply say so stupid? In my opinion they know what they do, otherwise they would have passed long time ago. There had to be some unofficial agreement between magnates where one had no interest desktop users were stopping inculcation of their well-thought world market domination plan.

2 years ago

mark_payne_6851786

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Can you imagine the amount of changes to the software if they actively try to force iPad user workflow into a desktop app?

What's next, we need to use 2 mouses or pens to replicate 2 finger gestures?

Also - it's not happening anytime soon. Large companies are not overhauling their investment in desktop PCs/Macs retraining entire employee base, restructuring IT depts, changing email systems, networks, etc. At my work, we are still on Win 7 for a reason. It's too much of an overhaul for too many complex systems, and not worth the cost.

This would not be the time to meld iPad features and workflow into desktop Photoshop. It would be way better for them to develop them seperately and refine each program specifically for it's user base.

2 years ago

kukurykus

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You are lucky Windows 7 is still supported for 32 bits Ps, but as you may read many others not:

https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/upcoming-changes-to-digital-imaging-os-suppor...

2 years ago

kukurykus

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To the list of that is transformation in other post - however I'm not sure now (un)affected by new way of doing it - I should also add 'Selection' and 'Cropping'.

2 years ago

kukurykus

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To the list of that is transformation in other post - however I'm not sure now (un)affected by new way of doing it - I should also add 'Selection' and 'Cropping'.

2 years ago